American Idol Early Years: The Paula Abdul & Corey Clark Headlines | The Cool Check-In

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is an episode of the cool check-in, our little sidebar podcast on our 50 to 50 project.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this idea came to me, sometimes when you're clicking through stuff, you have a memory, and I'm like, I don't know if I have how many people I've told this story to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably told that to Mike, maybe the day after it happened, originally when it happened, but anyway, I was scrolling through my Hulu live and just like, oh, American idols back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At one point in my life, starting with season two,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like live blogging every episode of America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, yes, you were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fun thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fun thing to do for engagement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People were reading personal blogs, a lot more back then than they do now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's different times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sub-steck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is exists because blogs, you know, personal blogs you used to exist and now people use sub-sac, which Mike has a sub-sub-sac going right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've actually been, you've actually been writing like every day just about, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been almost every other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been pretty much

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I would do is the episode would air and I'm on the west coast so it wouldn't actually be live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would ask people to watch the shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People who we had worked with in the community of opinions who were like kind of like music writers and just people that I knew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say, hey, watch this episode of American Idol with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or not with me, but just watch it and then give your critique of each of the people singing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I would give like, here's Randy Jackson said about that person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a policy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what Simon said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then here's what I said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's what our guest judge,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you did a few of them and here's what you know Mike says about this person and I kind of made it as if we were judges with them on and I, you know, I, I was writing a lot more back then and trying to make it fun and it's stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I think I did that for like 10 seasons or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were you were on top so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: American Idol kind of falls off all of a sudden right carries hosting and then Jennifer Lopez is hosting and then Randy leaves and Paula leaves and Simon leaves and it's it is what it is today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think carry underwood might be a judge now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's carry underwood, Lionel Richie, some country dude, Luke Brian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe used to be here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he used to be up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he for everyone was on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Katie Perry was on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick, my gosh, was on it for like one season, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she was

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is maybe pre-trumped her treat prompt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Jay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just remember her and where I care, I always like taking shots at each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he chow the?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, between that and Tommy Matola being in the Epstein fouls, I'm like, man, we should have been listening to Mariah from good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, treat her bio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll do, we'll do a Mariah episode and we 100% I've read her bio, which is really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to reread it, but I'm going to listen to the audio book version because I think she reads it actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe she does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's how I'll get through it again because I read it when it came out and it's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So why are we talking about American Idol?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, wow, we're talking about my first question

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who is the best artist to come out of American Idol?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You mean in terms of like the records that they put out or just like, who is able to create?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like in your mind when you think of American Idol who are like the artist to pop in your mind is like, oh, like this actually helped them create their career and their career has been really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and be Kelly in in Jennifer Hudson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think would be the first two people that come to my mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're still culturally relevant today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Jennifer Hudson's in Egot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Jennifer Hudson has a talk show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Kelly Clarkson's talks are just ended or is about she's ending it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I mean, Kelly Clarkson has made some very good records.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jennifer Hudson has also made some very good records.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, you know, they were able to kind of, uh, transcend like being a TV star or being the winner of a singing competition, um, in a way that, you know, I would say there's really only maybe about 10 people from American idols' entire history that have been able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's your favorite person?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or is that any different from what you just said was different?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Something is any different?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Kelly Clarkson just seems like a cool gin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like I would actually go out and have a beer with Kelly Clarkson and she would be a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, certainly was not as big in American Idol fan as you were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I only watched, I think I would really watch like two seasons in there entirety.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One season was the

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Blake, I think Blake was the guy that won, or Adam, or came in second, Blake Lewis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a Blake Lewis winner, did he come in second?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other season was the Taylor Hicks season, but those are the only two seasons that I watched in full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, my favorite artist to come out of American Idol was Fantasia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tasia, she did a song called Baby Mama, where she spelled out the word, EAB-1, MA-M-A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, hey, that's the only song I've ever rocked out to, where they spelled out the word, baby, Mama.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, her first album is actually there, there are some nice gems on it, but they're, you know, at that point, you're, they're trying to create super startup out of these people because of the television publicity that they just got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And interestingly, Kelly Clarkson's first album, while it was successful, it was kind of a miss because they tried to kind of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: R&B her a little bit and that's wasn't what she was going to be eventually good at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Carrie, I mean, Kelly Clarkson is a soulful singer, but you know, she's not necessarily suited to like the Christina Aguilera kind of record that they tried to to put on her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, yeah, I think, you know, they, I think they sort of maybe saw her as like a

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[SPEAKER_01]: And less or version, but like a white girl or reether or something because like that first album like that it's nothing but like soulful R&B songs for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so carry underwood of course, became big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to like her a lot more before she decided to sing at the Trump inauguration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite, I guess American Idol personality who didn't really do a damn thing was Justin Guarini.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, this is like the nicest dude ever and he just didn't a big Rubin stutter to had a moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry for 2004.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Clay Aiken had his moment in time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I, I, I, I, I less wiped him on a dating site once on a dating app on Tinder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's real clay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's New York City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm assuming it was very.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually even think like the the bio was like, you know who I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, those folks are very memorable and, you know, Paula had a resurgence in her career by being a judge, even though, you know, the joke was that Paula herself wasn't really a good singer like Simon Simon, I'm sure probably had some fun comments with her about that Randy Jackson room musician.

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[SPEAKER_01]: very much like a real dude and Simon would have a lot of success even post American out of what the X factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well he created X. Yeah, very styles and one direction and all those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it was a juggernaut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a juggernaut anymore, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's one of the 20 jobs that Ryan C. Chris has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really pulling that dicklock to torch for you know we had a my company we kind of did a relaunch of our product you know you had you know the design and everything and when we actually relaunched it as kind of like the 2.0 version this was only last year on our big screen at our kind of event to signify this in the office

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, my CEO was like, all right, now I'm gonna play this video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was Ryan C. Crest, who said, congratulations to you guys for pulling off this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, yeah, my CEO flexing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She tells me the series of Ryan C. Crest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so my story, oh, by the way, we should mention somebody who we both really, really liked, who didn't become that big of a star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Elliot, you mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elliott was dope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really fortunate to work with Elliott, met him on a couple of occasions, was actually friends for a while with his brother Scott, who I think is a doctor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elliott was just like, a super talented guy in like a cool human being.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, shout out to Elliott, one of two idol people that I met in person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also met Taylor Hicks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because we worked with him for a while as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you sent me, did you send me an autograph version of his CD?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you actually did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I loved Elliot, you mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he worked, didn't, some members of the Jackson family, like actually sang on his album, didn't they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think I'll wait for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of Tito's kids, um, like the same people who did like I call it love for Lama Richie because like those songs are pretty much identical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my story here is my friend Tiffany, uh, she works in reality television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How did what did?

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[SPEAKER_01]: to have somebody working, I'm just curious how someone works like like you cast you produce right and can you you you create you have a big say and how these shows work so we're pro we're going back like probably gosh maybe 10 over 10 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember because we're we're both like

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she and I would goof off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is when Twitter was cool, not what it is today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We would goof off on Twitter during the idle episodes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, we do these hashtags, and you know, that we were kind of the only ones who were just doing inside jokes with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so one of those hashtags,

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[SPEAKER_01]: was free, Corey Clark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you remember Corey Clark, he was on, I don't remember, it may have been the second season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could have been the third, but he was, he did a version of the Isleys, this whole heart of mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, like he's not on the show anymore and I grind see Chris comes out and he's like, you know, he had something on his record that we didn't know about and thus he cannot be on the show anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was kind of like, okay, this is at a left field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really weird make any sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't remember exactly how much how long it took, but a story came out that Paul Abdul had him kicked off the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the story was centered around and look, you know, this is Hollywood gossip, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we don't know exactly what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the story was that Politica, a liking to this young man,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had some sort of a relationship and then when it ended, she didn't want anything to do with them anymore and maybe he could have told people and it would have affected her career and so somehow he got kicked off for that reason that that that is from what I understand to be kind of like the generic version of the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So me and Tiffany, we were just just writing hashtag free Cory Clark like just like goofballs because we know you know we we are fans of this stuff and she's she kind of has an insight scoop about how a lot of the stuff works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And um, all of a sudden I get this DM on Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from Cory Clark corporations or something like that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what the hell is going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the DM is essentially like, Cory wants to be back on American Idol and he wants to perform and he wants to tell his side of the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brother, they're never going to let you do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are you thinking?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're, um, Napalm to them, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could blow up the whole thing if people really take your story seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think what he thought is that he probably researched some of my stuff, saw that I had a blog, saw that I wrote, and I think he wanted me to write the expose of all exposés about Paul Abdul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think he wanted, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have, I was never going to do this by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, he, he, he's like, it may have, it was either him or his buddy or whatever, but they were like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: can we call you?"

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, do I want Cory Clark to call me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will make a great story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Cory Clark calls me or his buddy calls me hands, phone off to Cory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Cory tells me the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I have no reason not to believe him, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's like a kid who is kind of taken advantage of by in this situation, according to him,

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[SPEAKER_01]: She kind of moved on, he didn't understand what was going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had promised him things and kind of wanted him to be hush about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he was hush about it, he could get X, Y, and Z.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then at some point, I think it was ghost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so we just did an episode of 50 for 50 we're talking about Janet and we did bring up Paula and you mentioned the scenario with with Jackie Jackson she was kind of the young side chick to Jackie Jackson allegedly like that's the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not a legend, we don't we don't know any of these are the stories that the internet tells us and that you know that we have learned in our in our years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but now it's like, I don't know if Paula was married or not or if she has been I don't know what her romantic situation is, but Corey at that point as he was telling me the story felt like she kind of took advantage of him and then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just kind of kicked him to the curb, a kind of like in an unfair way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And thus, he no longer could be a part of Americano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, look, this dude was not going to win American Idol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not, that was very happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then after that thing, you know, we all just kind of wonder like a cash, you know, I kind of like Corey like what happened like he was, you know, nice dude yet an interesting voice wasn't the greatest singer, but he, you know, he had, he had something to him and then that, that story kind of kind of comes out later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's what happened and so he was trying and I think even MTV dot com kind of printed a story about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What he was trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was he was trying to create some publicity around this and as a show good for American Idol, like to say, hey, we did you wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will bring you back on the finale and let you sing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what he wanted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he wanted he was trying to create some publicity about the unfairness so that they would bring him on and he could perform again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe get something out of that book deal, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he wanted to, he wanted to give his side of the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, this again, this was a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my memory is just based on the things that kind of hit me at that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I had written about it at some point unfortunately my old blog is in the ether somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure if I went to like, you know, one of those old internet cash sites or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could try to probably find it and it would be, I would have a better memory of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I kind of like just tell me it like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, man, Cory Clark is up in my phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, hey, man, crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's actually funny?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder, not that he would have the same phone number necessarily, but I wonder if I even have his contact information.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fact information?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No court clerk in my phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ultimate moral of the story is don't poop where you eat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: bad idea, though, you know, I think in some ways, people think because he is a dude, like he should have known better or whatever, but she was probably twice his age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's influence and power and money, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, women are much more exploited in that type of scenario than men are, but that's not to say that men don't occasionally get exploited by women.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's dependent on what the power dynamic isn't a reality is that, you know, when it comes to power, men have more power than women in, you know, the corporate world, the business world, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this case,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Paul is a judge on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone who's been successful for many years and you know, who's conceivably very much like his financial superior and kind of has his career in her years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you really want to keep your job and the boss says you have to do this, you're going to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, I know Corey is still out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we are connected on LinkedIn from a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I see some of his updates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: LinkedIn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not meant to dismiss him in any way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a story that I was reminded of and since we're doing 50 for 50 and we're telling stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we're telling stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Mike has talked about which we haven't published this one yet, but he's talking about seeing L.O.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cooljick come into his record story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just experienced like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no shade that I want to throw a chore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope Corey is actually doing very well for himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... so i hope things are good in his life and also uh... hope all is doing well i don't know what Paul is doing but i'm yeah i mean what is pull up to these big fan of pola like i'd love to a salbum that was thought it was great she was on tour with uh... with the nkotb not too long ago no way

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it was like, oh crap, what was the tour?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it Paul?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done a new kids and boys to men, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're Paula, I mean, she's probably only doing a short set, like maybe three or four songs, probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is in that set?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think the first album, like just straight up opposites attract like for every girl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this a track?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you a girl?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cole Hardy, you know, maybe she does like rush rush.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: From the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you really, Paul, I mean, I own a Paula Abdul greatest hit CD, which is like 18 tracks, but you really only need like eight, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the old joke was, yeah, the greatest hits album that was blank or whatever, but Paula had hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Paula was, I mean, Paula was the biggest thing in pop music for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's end with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She and our Sineo doing business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our Sineo has a book coming out in a, oh, I can't wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which I have already pre-wordered the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember, you know, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the last thing I remember is there was an episode of Real Husband to Hollywood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Kevin Hart show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've ever watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Real, Real Husband's Hollywood is Kevin Hart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Cannon, Nellie, Dwayne Martin, Boris Kojo, and Robin Thick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's kind of an awesome cast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it ran on and I think J.B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Smooth is also sort of like a part of the cast and their episodes on YouTube with it ran on the ET format.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like five seasons or something like that and there is one episode where they brought in our scenario and he brought in Paul them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did this not cross my.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you need everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The algorithm should have like just showed this to me on everything that I tried to click on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is a pretty funny show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like there's lots of cameo's like Bobby's on on an episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, there's there's tons of cameo's from tons of black Hollywood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not just black Hollywood, but you know, lots of people from our era.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If, if, uh, we're both going to get the Arsenio book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe we'll do an episode on our

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[SPEAKER_00]: We should do in our senior episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's one of the most influential people in my young, my teenage years for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people talk about Conan and Letterman and all that shit, but, you know, our senior, when I think about late night talk shows, our senior was like the first dude that comes into my brain, mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hip Hop should thank our senior too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be it for this episode of the cool check in 50 for 50.net.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, you can read Mike's reviews, Mike's doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: really, really good stuff with his written work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love reading it, and then I will publish it and put some album art and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I love reading them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We also have the playlist, which is the playlists of all of the artists that we're covering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: YouTube videos, podcast, audio, 50 for 50.net is where you can see all of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so for Mike, I'm double G, see you when we see you piece out.