March 11, 2026
LL Cool J: The GOAT’s Greatest Tracks Ranked | Top 5
LL Cool J’s legendary career presents a challenge for any fan: how do you narrow down decades of hits into a definitive Top 5? In this episode of Top 5, hosts Garrett Gonzales and Mike Joseph tackle the "G.O.A.T." himself. The duo kicks things off with a high-stakes round of "Rock With It, Stop With It," weighing in on polarizing tracks like the controversial "Accidental Racist," the smooth "Luv U Better," and the classic "Big Ole Butt."
The debate intensifies as they transition into their personal Top 5 favorite LL Cool J songs. From the raw, aggressive energy of "Mama Said Knock You Out" to the New York anthems like "Around The Way Girl" and the smooth vibes of "Doin' It," Garrett and Mike break down the cultural impact and musicality of each selection. Whether you’re a lifelong member of the Uncle L fan club or a student of hip-hop history, this episode offers a nostalgic yet critical look at one of the genre's most enduring icons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Mike, it is time for the top five for LL cool J or top five favorite songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we do that, I have an extended and extended version of rock with it or stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because LL has a lot of songs in his catalog that
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[SPEAKER_00]: might be questionable, but because he's LL, they may also just be, I like this thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm just kind of interested of where you are with some of these songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So are we going to talk about his version of who's afraid of the big bad wolf?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what that is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd go on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a Sesame Street thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was this, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get this name wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was called mother goose rock and rhyme.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was on TV and like 1991, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was all of these like popular contemporary artists doing modern versions of these nursery rhymes in L. O. Coolj does, who's afraid to the big bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's a video 1991.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Reminds me of the MTV unplugged performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The owner of it performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my man had anti-person print all up his arms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he, he, no one told them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why we now use spray because the full cake was like hanging out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like nobody could just be like, Yo bro, here's a towel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it could do, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a towel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of these songs, I hope that I'm reminding you of some of them and taking you back and other ones, I'm waiting for you to say, no, that's a dope song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock with their stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All I have with J-Lo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Courtney J-Lo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: her voice is not great on that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's so skinny and flat and you know, you have to get for credit because she has some successful albums for someone who doesn't like she has she and Paula Abdul kind of have the same style of voice right like neither of them are really great singers but they it's imaging and stuff yeah and dancing and all that stuff and I mean I think Jennifer Lopez is a better singer than Paula Abdul but
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she still doesn't have a fantastic voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not really like an R&B singer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I do like about that song is that it's very similar to like the JLo and Jaro records with her singing a duet to each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just like singing verse, rap, verse, sing a verse, rap, verse, song, and so on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a call in response.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take forever your girl over all I have any days of week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Twice on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, love you better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rockway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: L. L. There's a, um, uh, there's a story that he tells about like ferales on the beginning of this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I forget who, I forget who sings the hook, but it's like a couple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's this dude Mark Dorsey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the black street?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he was in a group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember which group he was in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Might have been like as yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not as yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, he was saying that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, he does the video for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for L came up to him and he was like, hey man, how come you didn't ask me to do the video?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I just forgot, like, I, I, I, I, I did the song that we had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the guy who sang the hook is in the video, but he's like, yeah, I just forgot and for I was like, bro, you know, put me in the video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For all, don't need to be in any more videos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, lover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a great Michael Jackson sample, great boys to men, hook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I messed with that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Head sprung.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a dumb song, but it's a fun song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still, I mean, I'm still saying big silly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not silly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not big silly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've mentioned before that when I got divorced, I was kind of hanging out with some younger crew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was still out there kind of in the bars and the clubs for a little while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Head sprung was, they would play that joint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if that's the last LL song that they would actually play the clubbing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because phenomenon still gets played too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, since I was there, I haven't been to a club in a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: control myself, the other jail of song, stop what it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, I agree with you, but I think the music is creative, like it's creative in an old school way, kind of reminds me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a sample.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the Africa, that's what it reminds me of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it reminds me of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jailo with Jailo was doing a lot of that, and it, you know, she was, because she's got the beat nut sample.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, actually, I'll, I'll, I'll.
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[SPEAKER_01]: move it to like here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, it's memorable and I like it, but I don't think jail is not even really on, I mean, she's like whispering on the court.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's not even really on the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's also not LL's best performance, but no, it like it fits what it was supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what I can say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what about Biggo?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, rock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to be in that space of what we're saying about LL where he was like, I'm the coolest dude ever and nobody can touch me to make that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's banging the red lobster waitress and, you know, then leaves it for the next girl just
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a fun like silly song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the type of silly that I can get behind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still miscreate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I listen to those lyrics and I still don't understand how this is related to safe sex or whatever it's supposed to be related to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think just the title Pink cookies, which is yes in a plastic bag getting crushed by buildings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, think about it a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The title makes sense as a sexual metaphor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the entire song was meant to be a metaphor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not just my nature and that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dear event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Rockwood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Rockwood, it's two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, dear event is probably one of one of my favorite of his like old school, like from the first two albums, that's probably one of my favorite songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really corny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really really corny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not, I wouldn't seek it out to listen to it, but if it's playing, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a timestamp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You said you slapped Roddy Piper and you didn't have a hassle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's 1984 and a nut shell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Roddy Piper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Roddy Piper in 1997, reference that song in a promo and wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is Roddy Piper so a lot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's not deadly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was like, it's like 1997, I think, or he's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: someone said you slap Roddy Piper and you didn't have a hassle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, that's a lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we talked about this earlier on the the other the LL episode, the actual episode, accidental racist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't come.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't bring myself to listen to it again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm never listening to that song again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Father,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's powerful, but it's a little corny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think about the sample?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very on the nose, but this again is like the bad boy era of just taking the instrumental and rhyming over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's maybe the least creative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very uncrease.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Produce song that you've ever heard him do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it goes back to the words and the it's kind of it's kind of just promoting the book because that was the big story one of the stories and yeah make my own rules the book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what was this issue that he had and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, I remember that book when it came out you did you say you just read that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just read it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how how did it hold up did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: some of it reads more like BS now than it did 20 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I mean, the meat of the story, you know, particularly when he's talking about his domestic situation with his parents, you know, is pretty, like it's pretty harrowing like the pop shot the mom or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His father shot his mother and I think his grandfather.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, when Ella wasn't going to be like four or five years old, and is that the same dad who eventually became his manager?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were out of contact for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They regained contact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Ella was so like happy to have his dad in his life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, oh, you can manage me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like give me all the acknowledge like blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think his dad was maybe not the best choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that, and you said 20, this is almost 30 years ago, by the way, this year in 1997, I think it came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very interesting cross promotion to have a book and an album at the same time, because like, you know, you, essentially having to buy two things, you're kind of competing with yourself in a way, but, uh, interesting marketing there, but, you know, I think the album sold, I don't know how well the book sold, but we know the album sold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would read an L.O.
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[SPEAKER_01]: biography in like 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though knowing that it's going to be a lot of bragadotious kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a sort of reality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, probably has a little bit more is able to be a lot more effective now than he would have been at like 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what about how I'm coming?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably a stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I secretly love that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He that sounds like he was trying to make Mama said knock you out a second time and it just doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have the same on to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My man said he turns a wet dream into Frightenight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that even mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea, but I don't want to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rough R&B stands for Rough Brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're to your grandmother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, isn't there a line?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always just like slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then click, click boom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop dead in your tracks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, come on, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was your first single.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was one shot at love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You were kind of making reference to these songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These all those remakes of I need love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it's pretty bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My rhyme ain't done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, I just, like, is the old stuff is so like charming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's, it's cheesy, but it's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm that type of guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I'm gonna disagree with you because I cannot get over these lyrics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't rhyme for one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and we don't rhyme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He starts spelling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the type of guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's like there's something there, like there's a song there and he was just like I only got half and I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to beat though, I like to beat a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I'm just like, he's like, he's talking about deep frosting and seasoning you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just, it's such like a, what about the laugh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The laugh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh ill bomb rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of L.O.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like that's that is one of the last like real L.O.
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[SPEAKER_00]: bangers from the goat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this is a funny one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if you were, I think you'll remember this, but baby the rock remix featuring Richie Sample.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not we're stopping with it now it's not good to actually the one with the dream is not bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one is like, why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the reason?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like your puff your puff dadding your own song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As it is just like, okay, okay, dude, you lost touch a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just because I wanted to have one from the force, which is the
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the few M&M songs I can listen to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, can I tell you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where the conversation about M&M being silly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The end of this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he makes the reference to going back to Cali and then he uses the
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, like we need to, we need to save Eminem from himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fine for the entire song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a grown-up L.L.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is one of my heroes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do right by him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to like really practice this song so I do it right like because that was a story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really wanted this song to be good and he wanted to pay homage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we let him be silly at the end of the song and it just ruins it for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know LL, M&M has never had his ass beat or it's been a long time since he's had his ass beat and somebody's holding me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's had a lot of mental manipulations by his moms, but maybe, you know, I don't know if you know how much you got beat up, but yeah, I was like, I love the song that we get to the end and I'm like, I effing hate this version of this dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to tell him my one LL story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is early in 95, I'm working at Tower Records.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a rainy day, probably like a Tuesday or it was some day early in the week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was standing at the front desk, all of a sudden a lot of cool Jay walks in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember he, like he had on a Yankee cat and he had on a black leather coat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like February and March.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was early in the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is 1995.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So actually, people had cell phones, but I guess LL did not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is weird, because he was certainly rich enough to have a cell phone at that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So LL walks in and asks you to use our phone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The lady at the front counter, 24, 25 euro black woman looks up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the top of her lungs screams LL, I wanna have your baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The look on his face was just like, Oh, my God, I have no idea what to say or do right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to use the phone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he call her be?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't call her be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't look his lips.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He used the phone, I think, all the rest of us were super embarrassed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's my, that's the one time I had met LL or been in LL's proximity in person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does he, is he a big dude?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, I mean, he's bigger than me, which isn't saying much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a tall guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was before he really got like, brawler like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in due to probably about the same, we're probably back then about the same size.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a few tips pretty tall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, due to pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to get to our top five here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, this is a hard one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what I came down to is that mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted mine to be a little bit more,
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[SPEAKER_00]: more deep cutty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't think you can do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are LL songs that I really love and that are my my favorite songs and I just like they're just my they're just also some of the more popular ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's kind of the way I'm rocking it to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will give some honorable mentions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to find a way to put hip hop on this soundtrack because I always loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you mentioned this in our two-poch episode when two-poch does his like, pays homage to the history of rap music in his eyes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And LL does it, and it's like, who better to do it than this dude?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that song a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also love phenomenon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so memorable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't put it in my top five, but like when you hear that, it's like, okay, I know where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember what I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember what grade I'm in, what year of college I'm in, when I hear that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let me see what else is in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To the break-a-dawn, we mentioned to the break-a-dawn, which is great song, where he's like disin' everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a smashing everybody's ladies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's see, you know, I, one song, I should have put this on the rocket rock with it or stop with it because I'm not the biggest doing it fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that might be a little unpopular.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we might have to put a pin in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also very memorable, but also did not make the list going back to Cali.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think going back to Cali is one of the coolest songs I've ever heard, but still I had others that are on top of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so let's count down, I do have one wild card that I think you would see as a wild card, but the others are not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you want to start you on me to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, mine are pretty much straight down the middle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also was just kind of like going through the catalog like there are definitely like
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[SPEAKER_01]: album tracks on most of his albums that I like that nobody else does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a track on 14 shots to the dump on no front and allowed and choose as low to the underground on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of songs on Phenomenon that I thought were really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get paid with the lost boys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't be too late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't come too soon with Tamia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a really good song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a more interesting top five is the album cut version of the on singles version of the top five, yeah, I think I only have one that would not be a single okay interesting, but yeah, I mean, he's had a lot of like illegal search, which is kind of a favorite of mine, but milky story, what about milky story, milky serial, all of those, but my top five is all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like popular song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number five is jingling, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The original version or the remix does that is the original version by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So walking with the panther.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's on one of the versions of walking with the panther.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's on all of the versions of walking with the panther.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got the album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the album too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the next to last song one now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he remixed it for Mama said knock you out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And was that, Marley Mal, that was like his, that tells us the next time, Marley Mal, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: First time we work with Marley Mal was the remix to Jingle and Baby, which basically, it's the exact same lyrics just a different beat and LLs, like he's rhyming slower.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The original version of Jingle and Baby is a lot more fast-paced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I first heard a walk with the panther, I liked the original version of jingling baby and then when the remix came out, that's probably one of the first cassette singles I ever bought was the jingling baby remix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mine is a very educational song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Candie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha, it feels good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: taught me what a double on Tondra was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because he's like cutting off sentences in his rhyme and then the next sentence is like a sexual metaphor but it stops in the previous line like, and I was like, oh, that is very clever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is what a double entendre is like you were leading you to something and then you're like oh and then here's sexual metaphor part so I always I love that song and then there's a scream like right before the candy part like I feel good and then there's a scream about candy yeah that all that's a very that I can listen to that song like right now and just be right right back where when I heard it the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, number four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm realizing as I go through my list that I'm much more of a fan of like Like his best songs are the Sex songs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like from a better term.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number four is backseat of my jeet I the debt beat is insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, there's two versions of that one too, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's only one that I'm aware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought there was a remix version
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, back to you to my Jeep produced by a QD3 who was Quincy Jones's son, beat for that song, used like a year later, and don't take a personal nap on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, it's just it's filthy, but not misogynist, it's, you know, it's lighthearted, it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, and I remember hearing that someone a radio for the first time and they cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't curse once at all in the song, but the, like the double entendres and the metaphors are so blatantly sexual that they cut half the song out when they played it on the radio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think about what this dude was seeing at a very young age that like, this dude is famous when he's 16 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's seeing anything and everything at this point, because he's so his famous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Eddie, Eddie, I think LL had a couple of years where he was just like swimming in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, thankfully, he's here to tell, well, maybe not tell his stories, but he's here to survive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He survived everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he hangs type of magic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure I'm a magic, like smokestagar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number four for me is Rock the Bells.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has created a brand out of this song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a way to give back to the people who, you know, maybe didn't make it as well as he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the radio station on serious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he's on that channel everyone they like they've segments that he does like where they break down like samples and stuff salute the sample i think it was called uh... and i yeah right i mean rock dbells like the story to rock dbells which is really interesting is
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, run DMC with Peter Piper, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the they had the same idea for sample as LL and they won because they were the better act at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the actual version of rock the bells that is on the album is not all he wanted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then they remixed it right and they were able to put.
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[SPEAKER_00]: other like didn't more than able to put the sample like on a remix or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the original version leaked with okay yeah yeah yeah that's that's the one that we're hearing them sometimes so yeah that you know just he was just like yep with same idea and my loss right I didn't I'd have a vote you know you got to pay you do's all right what about number three
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... doing it is my number three and again like i think you know horny ll is the most fun ll um... and you know shout out tele shon who is the female voice on doing it and i think she kind of maybe got done a little dirty by ll and his people uh... because she's not in the video um
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[SPEAKER_01]: there was a lawsuit that somehow ended up, it ended up, the end result of it was at Lashan ended up being on LL's next two records.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I just, you know, that may not have been handled the right way, but that doesn't take away from just the fact that that's a fun fun song and there's a remix that's also super fun and you know, if you're making one of those like slow jam mix tapes and you and your significant other are really trying to have like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to like go to pound town real hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he uses the word horny and like the first line of the yes, first, first time together and I'm feeling kind of horny conventional methods of making love kind of born me and that that's the part where I was like, yeah, this dude saw too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yep, yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, number three for me is around the way girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, um, that's very memorable because that the video feels a little, because he's got like a camcorder in the video, and it feels low rent kind of on purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this man is dancing in this video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the only times you ever see LL Cool J dancing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, this is this is such a smart song for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a shout out to women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, I mean, it's, it just became, you know, a very popular song in general, but you know, you could sort of see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could sort I like I don't know the timeline of like when all of a sudden Hollywood wanted to work with him but like this version of LL and around the way girl is like a version of LL in the um the uh in the house like that's kind of like the same version of LL is from that show like I could see someone going that dude's got it and let's put him on other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right number two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two is my favorite, a little brag record, it's on bad and you know, I was in junior high school when I'm bad came out and everybody was just completely like Recto with a song like and it's such a um
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's so memorable, like, that's one of those songs I can recite from, like, top to bottom, like, I can't remember what I have to breakfast, but if you ask me to wrap on bed, I'm doing it for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually my number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The best line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the song is trend set up on better marimes are good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to go name plate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a wish you would.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like how how many times in your life do you wish you could walk up to somebody and say, I wish you would.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is like the most dope thing you could ever tell somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're like in beef with them or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's just that's LL, that's LL channeling Muhammad Ali, that's just such like a, you know, like Jay Z famously called hip hop like black superhero music, like I'm bad is a black superhero song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that the first song that he actually cursed in as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I don't think he curses on any of the songs on his first album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because, yeah, I mean, I'm bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He drops an MF on like the fourth line of the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes you go, oh, this is some serious shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he dropped the, yeah, he dropped that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was this was my number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my number two is actually Mama said knock you out because it was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that the scenario where I was in the gym and then when you when mom said not you out the song comes out I am like this is like I'm a big rocky fan right I'm a big Tyson fan and so my guy is using boxing metaphors
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[SPEAKER_00]: as a way to say like this is this is my turf like is this is my stuff and so the boxing metaphor works with me and I I can still just listen to this song like it's the first time I heard it it's I just love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was you know when I was dealing with my 14-year-old aggression that was mom said knock you out was my go-to song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great workout song too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're in the gym, you throw this song on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was my number one was your number three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was around the way girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it's just to me, like a perfect song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, it's romantic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back in the day, when Mama said knock you out came out, this was before I had cable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So any music videos I watched were basically on public access TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like two shows that came on after school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were as video music bots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was American hot video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And American hot video was like a request show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And people would call in and make their requests.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And around the way girl played
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if it was like deaf jam calling in or people calling in, but that song in video is just like embedded in my brain so hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, you know, culturally, it's, you know, still got resonance all these years later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just it's LL relaxed and, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never got a chance to date someone with bamboo earrings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, get your ladies and bamboo earrings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but just like as as a single as a cool, like yeah, as a cool chick, like that was always like a little bit of a, of a north star for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like that's, I want to date someone like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't have everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, all right, that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got some heavy hitters coming up, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were just talking about like what the next episodes are going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if this is going to be the exact order, um, because we're probably going to put one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to spoil it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're probably going to put one in front of this one, just because of the timing as.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm linear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we got Heli Lewis coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: we are actually going to do two Michael Jackson albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've decided because of like I said, you know, how we kind of connected through M&A.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we've already done the Jackson's so three Jack Michael Jackson centric albums and then Janet Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, um, the and because
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[SPEAKER_00]: there's this Michael Jackson movie coming out that we're not going to be able to escape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it will probably pretty timely to do one of those episodes around the time this movie comes at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll probably also do a sidebar cool check in about the actual movie because I am actually we're both seeing that on like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: first day or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm super curious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You wrote about your your buddy wants to see it with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My friend Sammy was like, I am not watching this movie unless you watch it with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, I feel a little obligated now, but the music is going to be good in in the course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be worth to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will it be a great movie
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that it is going to be very, very, very successful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a discussion going on right now about the domestic the US box office because it is absolutely going to kill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: internationally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like the way that he is seen internationally is like it's like 1984 everywhere you know internationally for Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it'll do fantastic there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How it does domestically in the US after like maybe the first week or two will be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if it it will have the legs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I want to see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to see it on IMAX because
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to hear the music and I want to like, you know, just be there to experience the sound of what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm definitely seeing it on the first day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Mike, I'm WG 50 for 50.net y'all see when we see you piece later out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Mike, it is time for the top five for LL cool J or top five favorite songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we do that, I have an extended and extended version of rock with it or stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because LL has a lot of songs in his catalog that
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[SPEAKER_00]: might be questionable, but because he's LL, they may also just be, I like this thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm just kind of interested of where you are with some of these songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So are we going to talk about his version of who's afraid of the big bad wolf?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what that is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd go on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a Sesame Street thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was this, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get this name wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was called mother goose rock and rhyme.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was on TV and like 1991, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was all of these like popular contemporary artists doing modern versions of these nursery rhymes in L. O. Coolj does, who's afraid to the big bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's a video 1991.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Reminds me of the MTV unplugged performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The owner of it performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my man had anti-person print all up his arms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he, he, no one told them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why we now use spray because the full cake was like hanging out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like nobody could just be like, Yo bro, here's a towel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it could do, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a towel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of these songs, I hope that I'm reminding you of some of them and taking you back and other ones, I'm waiting for you to say, no, that's a dope song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock with their stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All I have with J-Lo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Courtney J-Lo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: her voice is not great on that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's so skinny and flat and you know, you have to get for credit because she has some successful albums for someone who doesn't like she has she and Paula Abdul kind of have the same style of voice right like neither of them are really great singers but they it's imaging and stuff yeah and dancing and all that stuff and I mean I think Jennifer Lopez is a better singer than Paula Abdul but
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she still doesn't have a fantastic voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not really like an R&B singer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I do like about that song is that it's very similar to like the JLo and Jaro records with her singing a duet to each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just like singing verse, rap, verse, sing a verse, rap, verse, song, and so on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a call in response.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take forever your girl over all I have any days of week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Twice on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, love you better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rockway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: L. L. There's a, um, uh, there's a story that he tells about like ferales on the beginning of this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I forget who, I forget who sings the hook, but it's like a couple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's this dude Mark Dorsey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the black street?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he was in a group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember which group he was in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Might have been like as yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not as yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, he was saying that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, he does the video for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for L came up to him and he was like, hey man, how come you didn't ask me to do the video?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I just forgot, like, I, I, I, I, I did the song that we had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the guy who sang the hook is in the video, but he's like, yeah, I just forgot and for I was like, bro, you know, put me in the video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For all, don't need to be in any more videos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, lover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a great Michael Jackson sample, great boys to men, hook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I messed with that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Head sprung.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a dumb song, but it's a fun song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still, I mean, I'm still saying big silly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not silly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not big silly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've mentioned before that when I got divorced, I was kind of hanging out with some younger crew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was still out there kind of in the bars and the clubs for a little while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Head sprung was, they would play that joint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if that's the last LL song that they would actually play the clubbing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because phenomenon still gets played too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, since I was there, I haven't been to a club in a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: control myself, the other jail of song, stop what it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, I agree with you, but I think the music is creative, like it's creative in an old school way, kind of reminds me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a sample.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the Africa, that's what it reminds me of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it reminds me of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jailo with Jailo was doing a lot of that, and it, you know, she was, because she's got the beat nut sample.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, actually, I'll, I'll, I'll.
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[SPEAKER_01]: move it to like here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, it's memorable and I like it, but I don't think jail is not even really on, I mean, she's like whispering on the court.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's not even really on the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's also not LL's best performance, but no, it like it fits what it was supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what I can say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what about Biggo?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, rock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that song.
05:57.673 --> 05:58.534
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to be in that space of what we're saying about LL where he was like, I'm the coolest dude ever and nobody can touch me to make that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's banging the red lobster waitress and, you know, then leaves it for the next girl just
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a fun like silly song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the type of silly that I can get behind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still miscreate.
06:33.927 --> 06:40.154
[SPEAKER_00]: I listen to those lyrics and I still don't understand how this is related to safe sex or whatever it's supposed to be related to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think just the title Pink cookies, which is yes in a plastic bag getting crushed by buildings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, think about it a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The title makes sense as a sexual metaphor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the entire song was meant to be a metaphor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not just my nature and that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dear event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Rockwood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Rockwood, it's two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, dear event is probably one of one of my favorite of his like old school, like from the first two albums, that's probably one of my favorite songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lie.
07:25.009 --> 07:27.031
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really corny.
07:27.672 --> 07:29.013
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really really corny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not, I wouldn't seek it out to listen to it, but if it's playing, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a timestamp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You said you slapped Roddy Piper and you didn't have a hassle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's 1984 and a nut shell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Roddy Piper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Roddy Piper in 1997, reference that song in a promo and wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is Roddy Piper so a lot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's not deadly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was like, it's like 1997, I think, or he's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: someone said you slap Roddy Piper and you didn't have a hassle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, that's a lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we talked about this earlier on the the other the LL episode, the actual episode, accidental racist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't come.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't bring myself to listen to it again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm never listening to that song again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Father,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's powerful, but it's a little corny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think about the sample?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very on the nose, but this again is like the bad boy era of just taking the instrumental and rhyming over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's maybe the least creative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very uncrease.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Produce song that you've ever heard him do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it goes back to the words and the it's kind of it's kind of just promoting the book because that was the big story one of the stories and yeah make my own rules the book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what was this issue that he had and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, I remember that book when it came out you did you say you just read that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just read it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how how did it hold up did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: some of it reads more like BS now than it did 20 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I mean, the meat of the story, you know, particularly when he's talking about his domestic situation with his parents, you know, is pretty, like it's pretty harrowing like the pop shot the mom or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His father shot his mother and I think his grandfather.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, when Ella wasn't going to be like four or five years old, and is that the same dad who eventually became his manager?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were out of contact for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They regained contact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Ella was so like happy to have his dad in his life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, oh, you can manage me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like give me all the acknowledge like blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think his dad was maybe not the best choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that, and you said 20, this is almost 30 years ago, by the way, this year in 1997, I think it came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very interesting cross promotion to have a book and an album at the same time, because like, you know, you, essentially having to buy two things, you're kind of competing with yourself in a way, but, uh, interesting marketing there, but, you know, I think the album sold, I don't know how well the book sold, but we know the album sold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would read an L.O.
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[SPEAKER_01]: biography in like 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though knowing that it's going to be a lot of bragadotious kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a sort of reality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, probably has a little bit more is able to be a lot more effective now than he would have been at like 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what about how I'm coming?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably a stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I secretly love that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He that sounds like he was trying to make Mama said knock you out a second time and it just doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have the same on to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My man said he turns a wet dream into Frightenight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that even mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea, but I don't want to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rough R&B stands for Rough Brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're to your grandmother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, isn't there a line?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always just like slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then click, click boom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop dead in your tracks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, come on, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was your first single.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was one shot at love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You were kind of making reference to these songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These all those remakes of I need love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it's pretty bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My rhyme ain't done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, I just, like, is the old stuff is so like charming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's, it's cheesy, but it's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm that type of guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I'm gonna disagree with you because I cannot get over these lyrics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't rhyme for one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and we don't rhyme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He starts spelling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the type of guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's like there's something there, like there's a song there and he was just like I only got half and I'm
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to beat though, I like to beat a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I'm just like, he's like, he's talking about deep frosting and seasoning you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just, it's such like a, what about the laugh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The laugh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh ill bomb rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of L.O.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like that's that is one of the last like real L.O.
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[SPEAKER_00]: bangers from the goat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this is a funny one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if you were, I think you'll remember this, but baby the rock remix featuring Richie Sample.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not we're stopping with it now it's not good to actually the one with the dream is not bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one is like, why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the reason?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like your puff your puff dadding your own song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As it is just like, okay, okay, dude, you lost touch a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just because I wanted to have one from the force, which is the
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the few M&M songs I can listen to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, can I tell you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where the conversation about M&M being silly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The end of this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he makes the reference to going back to Cali and then he uses the
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, like we need to, we need to save Eminem from himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fine for the entire song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a grown-up L.L.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is one of my heroes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do right by him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to like really practice this song so I do it right like because that was a story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really wanted this song to be good and he wanted to pay homage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we let him be silly at the end of the song and it just ruins it for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know LL, M&M has never had his ass beat or it's been a long time since he's had his ass beat and somebody's holding me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's had a lot of mental manipulations by his moms, but maybe, you know, I don't know if you know how much you got beat up, but yeah, I was like, I love the song that we get to the end and I'm like, I effing hate this version of this dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to tell him my one LL story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is early in 95, I'm working at Tower Records.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a rainy day, probably like a Tuesday or it was some day early in the week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was standing at the front desk, all of a sudden a lot of cool Jay walks in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember he, like he had on a Yankee cat and he had on a black leather coat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like February and March.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was early in the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is 1995.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So actually, people had cell phones, but I guess LL did not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is weird, because he was certainly rich enough to have a cell phone at that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So LL walks in and asks you to use our phone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The lady at the front counter, 24, 25 euro black woman looks up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the top of her lungs screams LL, I wanna have your baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The look on his face was just like, Oh, my God, I have no idea what to say or do right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to use the phone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he call her be?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't call her be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't look his lips.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He used the phone, I think, all the rest of us were super embarrassed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's my, that's the one time I had met LL or been in LL's proximity in person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does he, is he a big dude?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, I mean, he's bigger than me, which isn't saying much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a tall guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was before he really got like, brawler like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in due to probably about the same, we're probably back then about the same size.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a few tips pretty tall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, due to pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to get to our top five here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, this is a hard one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what I came down to is that mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted mine to be a little bit more,
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[SPEAKER_00]: more deep cutty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't think you can do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are LL songs that I really love and that are my my favorite songs and I just like they're just my they're just also some of the more popular ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's kind of the way I'm rocking it to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will give some honorable mentions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to find a way to put hip hop on this soundtrack because I always loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you mentioned this in our two-poch episode when two-poch does his like, pays homage to the history of rap music in his eyes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And LL does it, and it's like, who better to do it than this dude?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that song a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also love phenomenon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so memorable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't put it in my top five, but like when you hear that, it's like, okay, I know where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember what I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember what grade I'm in, what year of college I'm in, when I hear that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let me see what else is in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To the break-a-dawn, we mentioned to the break-a-dawn, which is great song, where he's like disin' everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a smashing everybody's ladies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's see, you know, I, one song, I should have put this on the rocket rock with it or stop with it because I'm not the biggest doing it fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that might be a little unpopular.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we might have to put a pin in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also very memorable, but also did not make the list going back to Cali.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think going back to Cali is one of the coolest songs I've ever heard, but still I had others that are on top of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so let's count down, I do have one wild card that I think you would see as a wild card, but the others are not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you want to start you on me to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, mine are pretty much straight down the middle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also was just kind of like going through the catalog like there are definitely like
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[SPEAKER_01]: album tracks on most of his albums that I like that nobody else does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a track on 14 shots to the dump on no front and allowed and choose as low to the underground on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of songs on Phenomenon that I thought were really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get paid with the lost boys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't be too late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't come too soon with Tamia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a really good song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a more interesting top five is the album cut version of the on singles version of the top five, yeah, I think I only have one that would not be a single okay interesting, but yeah, I mean, he's had a lot of like illegal search, which is kind of a favorite of mine, but milky story, what about milky story, milky serial, all of those, but my top five is all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like popular song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number five is jingling, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The original version or the remix does that is the original version by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So walking with the panther.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's on one of the versions of walking with the panther.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's on all of the versions of walking with the panther.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got the album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the album too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the next to last song one now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he remixed it for Mama said knock you out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And was that, Marley Mal, that was like his, that tells us the next time, Marley Mal, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: First time we work with Marley Mal was the remix to Jingle and Baby, which basically, it's the exact same lyrics just a different beat and LLs, like he's rhyming slower.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The original version of Jingle and Baby is a lot more fast-paced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I first heard a walk with the panther, I liked the original version of jingling baby and then when the remix came out, that's probably one of the first cassette singles I ever bought was the jingling baby remix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mine is a very educational song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Candie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha, it feels good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: taught me what a double on Tondra was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because he's like cutting off sentences in his rhyme and then the next sentence is like a sexual metaphor but it stops in the previous line like, and I was like, oh, that is very clever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is what a double entendre is like you were leading you to something and then you're like oh and then here's sexual metaphor part so I always I love that song and then there's a scream like right before the candy part like I feel good and then there's a scream about candy yeah that all that's a very that I can listen to that song like right now and just be right right back where when I heard it the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, number four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm realizing as I go through my list that I'm much more of a fan of like Like his best songs are the Sex songs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like from a better term.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number four is backseat of my jeet I the debt beat is insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, there's two versions of that one too, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's only one that I'm aware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought there was a remix version
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, back to you to my Jeep produced by a QD3 who was Quincy Jones's son, beat for that song, used like a year later, and don't take a personal nap on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, it's just it's filthy, but not misogynist, it's, you know, it's lighthearted, it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, and I remember hearing that someone a radio for the first time and they cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't curse once at all in the song, but the, like the double entendres and the metaphors are so blatantly sexual that they cut half the song out when they played it on the radio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think about what this dude was seeing at a very young age that like, this dude is famous when he's 16 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's seeing anything and everything at this point, because he's so his famous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Eddie, Eddie, I think LL had a couple of years where he was just like swimming in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, thankfully, he's here to tell, well, maybe not tell his stories, but he's here to survive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He survived everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he hangs type of magic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure I'm a magic, like smokestagar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number four for me is Rock the Bells.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has created a brand out of this song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a way to give back to the people who, you know, maybe didn't make it as well as he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the radio station on serious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he's on that channel everyone they like they've segments that he does like where they break down like samples and stuff salute the sample i think it was called uh... and i yeah right i mean rock dbells like the story to rock dbells which is really interesting is
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, run DMC with Peter Piper, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the they had the same idea for sample as LL and they won because they were the better act at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the actual version of rock the bells that is on the album is not all he wanted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then they remixed it right and they were able to put.
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[SPEAKER_00]: other like didn't more than able to put the sample like on a remix or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the original version leaked with okay yeah yeah yeah that's that's the one that we're hearing them sometimes so yeah that you know just he was just like yep with same idea and my loss right I didn't I'd have a vote you know you got to pay you do's all right what about number three
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... doing it is my number three and again like i think you know horny ll is the most fun ll um... and you know shout out tele shon who is the female voice on doing it and i think she kind of maybe got done a little dirty by ll and his people uh... because she's not in the video um
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[SPEAKER_01]: there was a lawsuit that somehow ended up, it ended up, the end result of it was at Lashan ended up being on LL's next two records.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I just, you know, that may not have been handled the right way, but that doesn't take away from just the fact that that's a fun fun song and there's a remix that's also super fun and you know, if you're making one of those like slow jam mix tapes and you and your significant other are really trying to have like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to like go to pound town real hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he uses the word horny and like the first line of the yes, first, first time together and I'm feeling kind of horny conventional methods of making love kind of born me and that that's the part where I was like, yeah, this dude saw too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yep, yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, number three for me is around the way girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, um, that's very memorable because that the video feels a little, because he's got like a camcorder in the video, and it feels low rent kind of on purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this man is dancing in this video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the only times you ever see LL Cool J dancing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, this is this is such a smart song for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a shout out to women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, I mean, it's, it just became, you know, a very popular song in general, but you know, you could sort of see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could sort I like I don't know the timeline of like when all of a sudden Hollywood wanted to work with him but like this version of LL and around the way girl is like a version of LL in the um the uh in the house like that's kind of like the same version of LL is from that show like I could see someone going that dude's got it and let's put him on other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right number two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two is my favorite, a little brag record, it's on bad and you know, I was in junior high school when I'm bad came out and everybody was just completely like Recto with a song like and it's such a um
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's so memorable, like, that's one of those songs I can recite from, like, top to bottom, like, I can't remember what I have to breakfast, but if you ask me to wrap on bed, I'm doing it for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually my number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The best line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the song is trend set up on better marimes are good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to go name plate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a wish you would.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like how how many times in your life do you wish you could walk up to somebody and say, I wish you would.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is like the most dope thing you could ever tell somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're like in beef with them or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's just that's LL, that's LL channeling Muhammad Ali, that's just such like a, you know, like Jay Z famously called hip hop like black superhero music, like I'm bad is a black superhero song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that the first song that he actually cursed in as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I don't think he curses on any of the songs on his first album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because, yeah, I mean, I'm bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He drops an MF on like the fourth line of the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes you go, oh, this is some serious shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he dropped the, yeah, he dropped that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was this was my number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my number two is actually Mama said knock you out because it was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that the scenario where I was in the gym and then when you when mom said not you out the song comes out I am like this is like I'm a big rocky fan right I'm a big Tyson fan and so my guy is using boxing metaphors
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[SPEAKER_00]: as a way to say like this is this is my turf like is this is my stuff and so the boxing metaphor works with me and I I can still just listen to this song like it's the first time I heard it it's I just love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was you know when I was dealing with my 14-year-old aggression that was mom said knock you out was my go-to song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great workout song too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're in the gym, you throw this song on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was my number one was your number three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was around the way girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it's just to me, like a perfect song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, it's romantic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back in the day, when Mama said knock you out came out, this was before I had cable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So any music videos I watched were basically on public access TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like two shows that came on after school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were as video music bots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was American hot video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And American hot video was like a request show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And people would call in and make their requests.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And around the way girl played
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if it was like deaf jam calling in or people calling in, but that song in video is just like embedded in my brain so hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, you know, culturally, it's, you know, still got resonance all these years later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just it's LL relaxed and, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never got a chance to date someone with bamboo earrings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, get your ladies and bamboo earrings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but just like as as a single as a cool, like yeah, as a cool chick, like that was always like a little bit of a, of a north star for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like that's, I want to date someone like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't have everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, all right, that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got some heavy hitters coming up, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were just talking about like what the next episodes are going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if this is going to be the exact order, um, because we're probably going to put one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to spoil it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're probably going to put one in front of this one, just because of the timing as.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm linear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we got Heli Lewis coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: we are actually going to do two Michael Jackson albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've decided because of like I said, you know, how we kind of connected through M&A.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we've already done the Jackson's so three Jack Michael Jackson centric albums and then Janet Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, um, the and because
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[SPEAKER_00]: there's this Michael Jackson movie coming out that we're not going to be able to escape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it will probably pretty timely to do one of those episodes around the time this movie comes at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll probably also do a sidebar cool check in about the actual movie because I am actually we're both seeing that on like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: first day or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm super curious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You wrote about your your buddy wants to see it with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My friend Sammy was like, I am not watching this movie unless you watch it with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, I feel a little obligated now, but the music is going to be good in in the course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be worth to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will it be a great movie
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that it is going to be very, very, very successful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a discussion going on right now about the domestic the US box office because it is absolutely going to kill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: internationally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like the way that he is seen internationally is like it's like 1984 everywhere you know internationally for Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it'll do fantastic there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How it does domestically in the US after like maybe the first week or two will be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if it it will have the legs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I want to see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to see it on IMAX because
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to hear the music and I want to like, you know, just be there to experience the sound of what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm definitely seeing it on the first day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Mike, I'm WG 50 for 50.net y'all see when we see you piece later out.
