A Seat at the Table & the Solange Story: A Full Career Deep Dive | 50 For 50

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're back with a 50 for 50 episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 2016, Salange, see that the table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When's the last time you heard this album?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before we re-listened to it, I was gonna say yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, I,

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[SPEAKER_01]: because I listen to music on shuffle so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then a long time since I've listened to the album it's entirety.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, it has a lot of skits in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't particularly care for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, all that to say, it's been a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the skits thing is pretty interesting because I'm normally with you on skits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, I don't care about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the skits were incredibly meaningful to her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she just didn't put, you know, people goofing on her skits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She made them vow of value her dad talking about racism, her mom talking about the hair, masterpiece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not listening to masterpiece music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would listen to Master Pete talk about being an entrepreneur.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He talks about watching the Avon lady and what she did and how he then used that seeing that as a kid in starting out no limit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So stuff like that is cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's a like there's a historical and a cultural aspect to what she was trying to do with those skits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like them for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But right, if you're shuffling, you're like, oh man, I want to hear

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if you listen to this album in full, I think I kind of like the way that the skits or the interludes are kind of placed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're trying to jam out and listen to some music, yeah, they're just kind of in the way sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so 2016 is is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the people who are listening to all these episodes, they probably have realized that a lot of the ones we've done so far have been earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason is because we've just heard that music so much more, it's been so much a part of our lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That an album in 2016,

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[SPEAKER_00]: doesn't have the same weight with us necessarily as something like an album from our youth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we are trying to get closer to that this 2010s and 2020's timeframe, but I think it's just like when we look at a list and go, what do we want to do next?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 2010 stuff is just not as part of us as much as the older albums.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, culturally we were, I think, in a different place like we're 40 into 2016 and maybe not as plugged into whatever is kind of happening in in the zeitgeist at that particular time like we don't care as much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got all of our stuff, you know, we've got 40 years of stuff already like built up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, I think there's kind of not on the pulse anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're moving into the smart phone age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're moving into the Spotify age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're moving into, you know, to the TikTok and Instagram age, where music is maybe a little bit more disposable and less meaningful to us, or new music is anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think all of that kind of factors in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 2016, you said something that it just hit me like a ton of bricks right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were by the end of 2016.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The year we turned 40.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I think about this album,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I didn't really think about the year that it came out, I would have just been, oh yeah, so long as I came out a few years ago, no, it came out 10 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 years ago, that's why it's so wild.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, the other thing that stands out about this, and obviously when we talked about the tribe called Quest, this is the year that

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[SPEAKER_00]: of the 2016 election, and you can tell in a lot of the music, how some of our artists, our favorite artists were feeling about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know how much of this album has anything to do with the current political thing at the time, but I think so long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This album is a really good place in time, album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not sure how specific she was in putting it out in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is, I agree with you when I was thinking about that before we got online to talk is that it is a really good place in time album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very much like finger on the pulse of what was happening in 2016 and finger on the pulse of kind of what's happening now because not a whole lot has changed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, um, got what some people would say it's got worse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got worse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but also you think about 2016 we're coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming out after.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Black Lives Matter movement is in full effect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all of these police killings have happened and they're sort of in the public.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there is certainly more of a conversation about mental health that started to happen because you know, a lot of famous people took their own lives and you know, there are because it focuses so much on blackness and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, self care and mental health and all that stuff like it fits right into the timeline of when that happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as we do our rundown, I did add one extra category.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this, I didn't give you a heads up, so you do not have to do anything with this category.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I specifically added it for this episode and it's called The Hot Take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will get to that category later in this rundown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to give me a trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's do a little bit of a rundown of what happened in 2016.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You already kind of mentioned a lot of the stuff that was happening with a lot of pastings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on January 8th, 2016, David Bowie released his final album Blackstar just two days before his death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was his first album to debut at number one on the Billboard 200.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, obviously, what a lost David Bowie's legend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 20 on January 28, three on a release her eighth studio album, anti two days following it's released.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The album is certified platinum after receiving one million free downloads in 15 hours due to a deal with Samsung.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Should those kind of day you could do I mean, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't need to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, back in the day, you could kind of do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, people still gain the charts or, you know, game certifications or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it probably means less than ever because streams count towards the total.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, Kudos to Rihanna.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And today, that is the most recent Rihanna album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even she's been busy having babies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then in February 15th, the 58th annual Grammys hosted by our guy, ladies love took place at the took place at the Staples Center, Kendrick Lamar won the most awards of the night and Taylor Swift won album of the year for the second time with 1989.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her previous win was for Fearless in 2010.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First, woman to win album of the year twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that true?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great to date no one, I mean, she's not one and I think four times and probably we'll win it at a fifth time next year, but yeah, no one else is one and more than once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: March 30th, our girl, we talked about her, R&B singer songwriter Brandy filed a lawsuit against her label, chameleon entertainment group for allegedly blocking her from recording and releasing new music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: industry rule number 3,084,088 always forget the number it just needs to rhyme it's the 80 part as long as the 80 part is the important part yeah exactly April 21st here we go again seven-time Grammy Award winner Prince dies at his recording studio in Minnesota at the age of 57

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[SPEAKER_01]: in saying, 10 years later, yeah, still kind of hard to wrap my head around that, like I had some people over the last night and we're watching videos in a Prince video camera, who like, man, that dude should still be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think Prince would be doing in 2026?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, I mean, he'd be making music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'd be mentoring younger artists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he'd be touring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it'd be kind of doing the same stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think he would, do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: like politically, there would be a different edge to his stuff or he would just be doing print stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he would still be doing print stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, you know, prints became popular during like the Reagan years, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, politically, prints was a lot more conservative than we, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: are willing to retroactively posthumously admit to like, he said some homophobic shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, I remember both Prince and Michael were asked about Obama and really didn't say anything about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they were,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think Prince became more political as he got older and was definitely more of a, you know, type of person to like, you know, Prince was definitely like one of those, I'm for everybody black, you know, folks towards like the end of your life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not sure how immediately political he would be in today's climate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're saying we're lucky that they're first recording together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael and Prince wasn't black Republicans before Jay-Z and Oz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, April 23rd, Beyonce premiered her sixth studio album Lemonade on HBO with an hour-long film.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The album was then released on title where Remain exclusively available to scream to stream for 24 hours until it was uploaded into all formats including iTunes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave use that number one and she became the first act on Billboard Hish in Billboard history to have

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[SPEAKER_00]: Indeed, I think we're not going to do lemonade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do a different Beyonce album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but again, 10 years later, do you even thoughts on lemonade?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I didn't, I was not a fan of lemonade when it came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not listened to it very much in the time since.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was, it got a lot of hype, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, because they were unspoken things that people thought about that she was trying to say in that album, but I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's not the part that I care about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I care about whether or not I want to listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the music good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about all the other side stuff and you know, I've spoken on previous episodes about how I think all of that was kind of like a publicity stunt anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, is the music good and to me, the music was not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I am not to make this Solange episode about Beyonce, but you know, I'm certainly much more of a fan of like first 10 years Beyonce than like last 10 years Beyonce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 29th of April, Drake, we're going to talk about Drake in a, I mean, I have we ever talked about right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm talking with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drake releases, well, we're not going to do, uh, I'm going to let it break out, I guess for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drake releases his first studio album, three years views.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The album spends the longest time at top, Billboard 200 for a rapper sense, drumroll please.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to the extreme by vanilla ice, and they can't get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Comparing Drake to vanilla ice, huh?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in 30 years, is Drake gonna be the only one to say yes to do a concert at the White House.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, the MN, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: May 13th, chance the rapper released a streaming on the album, Coloring Book, and becomes the first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it becomes the first album to chart on the Billboard 200 without selling any copies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of liked that dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I thought he was a likable person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, is he's not dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a likable person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a super big fan of his music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think there was a point in time when he really connected with the audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he put out a record and then got disconnected from the audience and he's been trying to kind of like, claws way back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To two guys who I really liked,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, just fell off the map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I know why the other guy fell off the map, but who I will bring up in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember,

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[SPEAKER_00]: my kid, one of my kids, just being like so dialed into chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when he was a, so this is 2016.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he would have been, you know, he'd have been a teenager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, in his like mid to late teens and chance really connected with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then soon thereafter, I was like, hey, what's going on with chance?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, yeah, like, it was like so quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like, yeah, it really did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if some of it had to do with,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because chance seemed like, and I would have to kind of go back and dig through uh, stuff to verify this, but it seemed like he was like a pretty wholesome guy and he had like really specific thoughts and ideas about how people should live their lives and then yeah, he had like a baby and didn't marry the baby mama or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, and people were like, oh, like, is he fraudulent?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's going on here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, you know, I don't know the, whatever the entire story is, it does seem really interesting that like, you know, for like a period and time, Chancellor Apple was like this, and now like nobody really even talks about him anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other person I was saying who fell off the map, but for good reason was a B.O.B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I was like, B.O.B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is way too talented to just completely fall off the map, but then you go, oh, I know

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even before he went full Kyrie, he, you know, like he put out that second album and that album had like a Taylor Swift feature on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we talked about that during the Bruno episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like nobody messed with it at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, I think that album is is decent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's also an Andre 3000 song on that album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like Andre's like the co-signs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Andre's like going on that album, too, because I just saw Andre 3,000 say, I think he said something recently where he's like, I don't rap because I'm too old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like nobody wants to hear me rap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I want to hear you rap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were not too old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to use damn near 70 and record's out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, not too old to rap Andre 3,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She maybe he's just waiting for the perfect time to get the outcasts some anniversary of outcast album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, outcast put out enough records in every years in the anniversary of something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because if you think about it, like anybody who is our age or say 10 years younger,

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[SPEAKER_00]: outcast, even drops the hint of something and people are like, okay, I'm putting my credit card down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Send me the vinyl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Andre was like, I mean, big boys great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love big boy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if Andre, like, buy himself was like, I'm putting out a rap record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In two weeks, two months, I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to hear a note.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm 100% in as much as I enjoy Lauren Hill, I would much rather hear an outcast album that affuities album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, affuities album never mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like affuities album is just gonna be like remakes or like whatever like outcast will be some like funky like weird shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wanna hear what is in the mind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Andre and Big Boy in their 50s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know that I want to he like I don't know that I necessarily want to hear that from Wycliffe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm interested in in in Lauren, but I kind of feel like

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's at this point where anything she does today, people will see as a disappointment because they just remember so much such a high bar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I will buy both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not saying I will not buy a food use album, but I would question her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there was a five to choose, I would say, I'd rather hear the outcast one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: August 6th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cia becomes the first female artist over 40 to have a number one song with cheap thrill since Madonna in 2000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to Cia?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's still behind the scenes like writing songs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, her, she made her name really as a songwriter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think she's just like, I'm a right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what a checks are at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just write songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we just recently talked about August 20th, Frank Ocean released his first studio album in four years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blonde.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And on the 10 years since we last put out a Frank Ocean record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I asked my kid about Frank.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because my kid is actually not only my kid, but my steps on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like the two biggest Frank Ocean fans I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, what's going on with Frank?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys even know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, uh, he was talking about trying to do something in movies and like he's he they they at least my oldest thinks that he's just chillin because he had a good living from those two albums.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 26 Britney Spears really surf first album in three years glory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never heard this album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, is that true or, or did I have some misinformation?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not fake news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard this album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what the album, I know what the cover really album looks like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure I had it in my possession at one time or another.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Glory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure that's the right title for that album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and the album we're talking about today, September 30th, Solange releases are first to you out in eight years, a seat at the table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: October 21st, Lady Gaga releases Joanne, which debuted at number one, making her the first woman of the 2010s to have four number one albums.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had to rock with Lady Gaga's music,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like, you know, I have not really followed Lady Gaga a whole lot after like her first record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, give me poker face in telephone and bad romance and I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love a star's born Lady Gaga so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen that movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, you gotta see the movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only do you have to see the movie, we should talk about it here, cause it would, wouldn't it come out 2019?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it sounds like 2021.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, it's been within, you know, within 10 years, it came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that, the movie is not perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is really good, and she is really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the soundtrack is really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I'm, I'm, I'm do for a rewatch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I probably seen it like three times, but I'm do for a rewatch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, November 4th, at least Keys released her first studio album in four years here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've done our Alicia Keys episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is still my favorite album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: this time frame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A tribe called Cret, a tribe called Quest released.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for your service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their first studio album since 1998 and also their final studio album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're coming up on the 10 year anniversary of that album in a couple months here, man, come on tip, give us something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to be cooking something, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I read somewhere that he was working on like three albums, which, you know, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, believe it when we see it, but I mean, it would be great to have new tip music out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dad, did we talk about this on our tribe episode where my thought, my idea was, Q-tip becomes the new Quinty Jones and just puts out this insane collaborative album with old school OGs, some new cats that he likes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it would be great, you know, if you think about all the people that Qtip has worked with over the years, it's a launch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's on this album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's on this album, you know, Jack White, you know, Denny Levato, like, all these like left, you know, sort of left field people, LL, like from all sorts of genres, I think he could make a really good album in that vein,

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's start talking about so long here before we go and just I do want to say, you know, we talked about prints and we talked about Bowie, but also like five and Prince B from PM Don and George Michael and Maurice white and, you know, like we 2016.

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[SPEAKER_00]: During Michael died in 2016.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He died on Christmas day 20 2016.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why my notes didn't have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a crazy year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you know Solange's middle name is spelled?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to pronounce this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: P-I-A-G-E-T, how would you pronounce that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: P-I-G-T, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So launch, P-I-G-T, knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that like her last name doesn't match her first to name?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that incredible to you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is pretty crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's born June 24th, 1986 in Houston, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously the younger sister of Beyonce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she made her singing debut at the age of five at six flags Astro World in Houston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, she started writing songs at nine, studied dance and theater when she was little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by her early teens, she was already embedded in the machine that built Destiny's child.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was a backup dancer for the group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in 2000, when she was just a young teenager, she stepped in when Kelly Rollin was hurt on the tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, her path is interesting because it is not like the Beyonce path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was thinking about this like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have two very talented kids, you probably feel like one is maybe a little bit more charismatic or outgoing or fits into a specific scene better, which would be Beyonce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yet the other kid is also pretty talented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how do you balance that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds insane to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's crazy because I think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you take what happens in any sibling relationship and then you magnify that right because, you know, by the time salonges 10 or 11 years old, Beyonce is the superstar and no matter what salonge does, it's going to be considered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: as kind of like Beyonce is going to be in the conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like anytime a Jackson does something, Michael's in the conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter at this point, it could be one of three generations of Jackson's, but no matter what happens, like Michael's somewhere in the picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of unfair, but it is just what we do as humans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, here's this person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She kind of has the benefit of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the gift to make a weird analogy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a gift in the curse, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the gift is that Beyonce kind of like clears the runway for her in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The curse is that everything she does is going to be compared to Beyonce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you know, I mean, how Matthew and Tina managed that like internally, you know, I'm sure there were some difficulties, but, you know, I mean, they turned out okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So little sis obviously is watching big sis just become this giant star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, people were talking about Beyonce being the one, since day one of Destiny's channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If somebody is going to get launched, it's going to be Beyonce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Destiny's Child's first tour was like opening for boys to men on like the evolution tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember I was working at a record store.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My boss went to see the boys to men show and came back and was like yo, he was like that, light skin girl from Destiny's Child, they are going to launch her and she's going to be huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is, you know, 1998 or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Destiny's Child, this one really has like one hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you know, like you could see it back then that even in this like four girl set up, like she was going to like go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and even like, so Solange does dabble in in acting early on, you know, she said some some kitty stuff movies, she's in Johnson family vacation, bring it on all or nothing, but still even if like she decided like, you know what, sis, big sis is going to be in music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be an acting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: people wanted Beyonce to be an act to act to like I mean Beyonce was in like she was trying to do like the dual singer actress thing for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think Beyonce was solid in dream girls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but she was she was she was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, she's in there with him heavy way super, super heavy hitters super who all were bringing their A game Jennifer Hudson and Jennifer Hudson has the best part of the whole thing because Dream girls is really about Effy white.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about effy white.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not about dinner jones and

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you were to put both of those in that movie, be on say, had to play the day in a Ross part, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of the Supreme Psych.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, whichever I think of that movie, I always think of that line in the trap called Quest Doc, or five is like, tip thinks I'm Florence Ballard, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but yeah, she's also in there with Eddie Murphy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie Murphy gets nominated for an Academy Award for that role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jamie Foxx is kind of still, you know, hot and heavy as as a it actor, um, just like, yeah, I mean, I thought she did a good job for what she was, but she hasn't really done a lot of stuff since then, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, she doesn't need to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So low star comes out in 2022, or I'm sorry, 20, oh two, 20, oh two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's 16 and they are trying to create a pop star leaning towards R and B in hip hop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Germaine Dupree the Neptune's Timbalon or on this album, when's the last time you heard this album in 2002?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, I've, you know, I try and re-listened everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, we're supposed to do Madonna next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how long has it taken me to listen to all those albums?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can, you can, the net we're going to have to do it a month from now because We'll see, I'm going to have to be very strategic with those things to Madonna stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, those albums on three X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, this album is not great and also she's 16.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's a, she's young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel authentic, but at 16, what does feel authentic?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you're, you're not a fully formed person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you could tell figuring your stuff out where her career goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The pop star thing was just not going to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause that's exactly her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she was still doing some stuff in the writing game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't know this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She wrote or she co-wrote, get me bodied on a B-Day for her sis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, she's always been more of the like, my sister is this and I'm gonna be left of her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that about Solange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's actually a feature, not a bug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would agree with you, okay, so a couple of other just kind of tidbits about her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This woman got married when she was 17, crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, go for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I think happened was what I think had happened was she got pregnant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And pop-and-nose was like, and that's the results of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went to the trunk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Daniel Smith was the husband and father.

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[SPEAKER_00]: later that year 2020, 2024, she gives birth to Daniel Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she is 17 turns 18, 17 in Mary turns 18 has her child and then three years later they get divorced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... to two thousand and eight she releases soul angel in the hadley street dreams the hears where she leans left uh... in her career and uh... she also writes a song that we're going to talk about in a little bit called cranes in the sky in two thousand and eight what do you remember

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[SPEAKER_00]: how people received soul angel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think it was a particularly big album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a great record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like even then I was like, yo, like, this is a fantastic album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would I remember someone that you know, my good friend, uh, Crystal Calderon from the

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[SPEAKER_00]: She loved this album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She would always tell me about it and she would be like, this is this is my album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what, you know, Christmas hour age, maybe a year young than us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for whatever reason, she rocked out hard to to this album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, that's mostly what I remember is when it came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's constantly talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I still have like a CD copy of that album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think it's a really good record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So 2011, she moves to Brooklyn with her son, launches her own record label in 2013, St. Records, and then in 2013, relocates to New Orleans, Louisiana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is something that we've talked about already, but May 12, 2014, security footage

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the most discussed tabloid moments, the family later calls it an unfortunate and private matter that they'd worked through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the story that came out was she was confronting him because she had believed that he had cheated on Beyonce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you have said that you think that was also a publicity grab in that just the way that it all came out and how all that stuff happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am a cynical person, I will own that, nothing that, nothing in the last 30 years that has publicly been released that involves Beyonce Knowles has not been scripted, nothing, zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if that was a real moment, and they didn't want that footage out, they would have done the Diddy Cassi tape thing and like paid somebody off, easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jaycee's, I mean, Jaycee's got my money in Jesus, Beyonce's got my money in Jesus, they could have made that go away real easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the fact that it was leaked to me, in the case that they wanted it to be leaked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So any end to take your point a bit further, the reason for them to want that to be leaked is so you can make lemonade, and so you can make 44.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you know, there's a narrative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with the line lemonade was a popular drink and it still is over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, P. Guru, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then September 30th, 2016 releases a seat at the table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her third studio album and first US number one wins her only Grammy to date February 2017.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll talk about this little bit in our Grammy's Redux.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Best R&B performance for cranes in the sky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, release is her fourth studio album in 2019 when I get home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And from then, not a ton from her, I know she's in, uh, at least as of 2020.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was in a pretty public relationship with the jazz artist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in 2022, she scored a New York City ballet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and I guess, uh, 2025, the last thing I have about her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She announced the three-year appointment at USC's Thornton School of Music beginning in 2027.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So next year to develop a music curation program.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we have...

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[SPEAKER_00]: solo star in 2022.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seoul Angel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the Mr. Is that the ice cream man was going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the ice cream.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The ice cream man is coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The ice cream man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen a ice cream man in years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What, what going to Brooklyn?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shadow to your ice cream man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might have to, we might have to pause this thing so you can go down and give them like a couple bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure the ice cream man is making dough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Seoul Angel 2008, true 2012, which was a seven song EP made independently with Dev Hines from Blood Orange, and when we get to our, one of our newest segments where we talk about who we would like to see these artists work with, my first thought was Dev Hines, and I was like reading through the notes, I was like, wait, she already worked with it actually happened, yes, so I don't think that relationship ended very well by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's a bummer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See that at the table 2016 when I get home 2019.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See that table like we said debut at number one on the Billboard 200.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her first number one and with her and Beyonce, the first pair of sisters ever to each land in number one album in the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they might be the first pair of sisters to have number one albums period.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think of anybody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sisters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd have to think about that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was named Abel the Year by pitchfork, spin and vibe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And landed number six on pitchfork's list of best albums of the entire 2010s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Rolling Stone placed it at 312 on its 2020 revision of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like this album, but 312 of all time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how do you even rank an album from 2016 with something from 1965?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole, I appreciate that people make lists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that, you know, people, at this point, any list that has been made by major publication in the last 10 years is clickbait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I see that the table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we mentioned, she wrote Crane's in the sky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... on a cd of instrumentals that rafael sedic handed her in two thousand eight so she's just uh... she said uh... what it's the how old were she had been twenty which twenty two thousand two two year twenty two rafael sedic man that that that that guy just has his hands in lots of things that i enjoy

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and we need to do, we need to go deep on Raphael.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it comes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's been a major part of so many different musical movements in the last 40 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the album,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the where a lot of the ideas kind of came together was in a small house in New Iberia, Louisiana, her grandparents hometown on a former sugar plantation where as she told NPR, a lot of my family were actually, uh, canors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's wild.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she isolated herself there, worked four straight days on the hardest, one of the one of the tracks Fubu before finishing the album in L.A. with Sadik as the executive producer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she completed it three days before her 30th birthday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'll, uh, there's some quotes here about she told NPR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She said I was writing for myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was writing for my family and my friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and she said the track rise was shaped by the unrest in Ferguson and Baltimore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that answers that question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's go through some of the stories, the other some more stories of, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: of the album of the making of the album so a little bit more about cranes in the sky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she finished, uh, she turned it into a full song one night in Miami in the aftermath of her divorce from Daniel Smith.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this song had been in the making for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She said the title came from watching construction cranes dominate the Miami skyline during the real estate boom and finding them jarring against the piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: she was looking for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were so heavy and such a nice door and not what I identified with peace and refuge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That story is so interesting because I listen to this song and I'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the metaphor?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I love the song and we'll get to it with my hot, well, uh, have something for the hot take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm like, I don't get this metaphor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what is this metaphor?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that explains it very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's looking for peace and there's this noisy, ugliness going on of building and she's trying to just like, you know, she's not building right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So some of the interludes, so there was a three-hour interview session with her parents that she recorded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Dad was mad and Tina taught me where the two interludes that came out that three-hour session.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like if you and I, like we were re-recorded this episode and I put it out and I'm like, our episode on Solange, here it is and it's five minutes long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's this is a lot of editing going on or or maybe pop a nose wasn't telling the kind of stories that she thought fit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows how left that conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So sedic recalled hearing one of Solange's choices in the studio that was like really bold and he reacted with a this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She just for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: praising her for her willingness to take creative risks that most contemporary artists shy away from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is from the fader had that piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Sadik brought the album to Columbia Records executive Rob Stringer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and described watching it land as she brought it together, underscoring just how many disparate pieces had to be woven into one coherent statement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of like what I was saying is, like that's why I like the interludes, but I only like it if I want to listen to the album from beginning to end, because I think it makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it holds the different parts of the album together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: meant to be like a glue piece between songs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a favorite track that you have on this album?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, crazy in the sky is my favorite track on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I could listen to that song like 20 times in a row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you wanna get to my hot take then?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what's your hot take?

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[SPEAKER_00]: My hot take is that crazy in the sky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is the best piece of music from anyone with the last name, Lowell's, of Knowell's ever created.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That song is like, it's so interesting how she described it, because when I listen to that song, I can tell there's hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but at the same time, the beat and the production is peppy enough to where I'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I want to listen to this song, it makes me feel good, but she is not feeling good at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is feeling a sadness, and she is trying to be in this place in time, and she is seeing what's going on outside of her bedroom window.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the metaphor that she's using.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's it's a song that I'm just like, man,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what, I mean, I've been through divorce, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I understand how that feeling of being sad and also wanting to have perspective and wanting to think that you're going to be okay, I think that track is everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like what a human can create with their thoughts and their skills and their writing and with a little help from Raphael Sadik just going, here, listen to these tracks and you're like, okay, this is perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an ultimate creation to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just artistic perfection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that cranes in the sky is the most like emotionally affecting song that any member of that family has ever put out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it speaks to like it's a very human thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we're in pain,

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[SPEAKER_01]: we don't know necessarily how to deal with the pain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we do things that we think are going to cover up the pain or change the pain, but it doesn't necessarily make it go away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's the amount of people that think money is going to solve your pain, doesn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people solve their pain from drugs, you know, via food, via sex, like she talks about all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again,

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh uh condition where it's like hey like we're hurting right now or I'm not we I'm hurting right now and I'm trying to do all of these things to kind of like feel better and they don't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is you know where is my piece?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where is my happiness?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like why is this not working?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we talked about rise which is inspired in part by the Ferguson and Baltimore protests

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the the master p interludes start very early track three you get the first one from master p and i remember the first time i heard this album you know i probably heard it while i was working so it's kind of like not paying a hundred percent attention close attention here it's kind of in the background and i'm just doing my thing and i hear that voice and i'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: that voice and then I remember like looking at the track list and going like who is this like that's a very familiar as I master p like what's the connection from master p to so long and really what it is is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louisiana, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, and I don't think I don't, I don't know how, if there are younger people listening to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but just people don't have any idea how big Master P and no limit were for a couple of years, like even in New York, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is very regional like Southern rap, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: any time like a master pee or anybody on no limit came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd be sitting there like surprised because dudes would come in and just buy these records up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he got shackled and then make him say, oh, a video, yeah, I mean, he, you know, he signed Snoop away from death row, like he masterpiece was making like big, big moves and definitely like from an entrepreneur ship standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, back in those days, it was like him and Puppy, you know, were kind of like the people that were leading the way in terms of like hip hop, hip hop entrepreneurship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of Lil Wayne on the track mad?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I'm not a Lil Wayne fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could, like, I could make like a 10 song next tape of Lil Wayne songs or features that I like and that would be on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't she date Lil Romeo back in the day?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was probably PR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because then I was thinking the low because I think low Romeo's on one of the tracks from solo star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, uh, as she's been like, because the only thing I remember is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Romeo thing, and I remember she had the baby, but then post that, I don't think she, I don't remember people who she was in relationships with, like, famous people that she was in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, I think Selange's just kind of like living her, I don't like, I don't necessarily think she wants to be like a tabloid celebrity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she just wants to like be a, be an artist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think don't you wait?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably the prettiest her voices on this album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like that song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really like that song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't touch my hair is, you know, it's a statement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, hey, let me teach you about something, people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, seriously, and I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that in the year of our Lord 2026, we don't have to tell anybody listening to this podcast to not touch any regardless of the color of the person's skin, don't ask to touch anybody's hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I get that people are curious, but it is very invasive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't have here, so I don't have that problem, but you know, it just feels like a very rude thing to ask if you want to be somebody with zero culture and zero understanding of how the world works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe you asked somebody if you could touch the hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you want, you might get punched in the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that might be the lesson learned where you're running a person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't ask nobody to touch the hair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, if this happens in a movie scene, it's like, the white person who only lives around white people and going like, oh my gosh, I wonder what that feels like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago the dream and BJ's Chicago kid are on Fubo and this is one of the ones that she wrote that I mentioned in isolation in new Iberia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have the Q-tip feature borderline an ode to self care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Juni is a tribute to Funk legend Juni Morrison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then master p like like they're like the end of this album is like heavy p it's like so p is on track three and then p is on track 10 then p is on track 12 and then he's on 17 19 to 21 so you get a lot of people at the lot of a lot of a lot of master p yeah about it about it master p it doesn't list the um

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the sleeve here, so that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, what if they took them off?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like this album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, only album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're only album, but not on like the lyric sheet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To you think, you know, kind of thinking about like whether or not this album, the lasting impact it would have made,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you think this was pioneering in any way?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think this led to what we hear today or is this just gonna be one of those like gems that people go back to and go, oh my gosh, I can't believe so long did this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is, if you listen to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: what some people call R&B these days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You listen to artists like Kalani.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is somewhat of an, and I think this album does have some lasting influence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if it was to any kind of like, quote unquote, alternative R&B, like there's, you know, some of it does sound like this album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think some of that is due to Solange.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of that is due to, you know, the writers and producers that made the record,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I think to answer your question, I think it's a little bit of both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that people do remember it fondly still, you know, I think crazy in the sky is one of those like evergreen songs that people want to be talking about forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think for some people, it is kind of like an undiscovered gem, but also for some people, it is like the blueprint for the music that they make as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's kind of a little

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, if we do our tears, well, actually, before we get to our tears, what do you think of the follow-up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very disappointed by the follow-up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, you know, not for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a seat at the table part two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, where would you tear these albums?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's even include, we could include true or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just an EP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a full album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, seven songs is, I mean, if this was the 80s, seven songs would be a full album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think, you know, seated at the table is a best album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think true is a dope record, like almost an equal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, if seated at the table has like the added,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like the heaviness of the theme of the album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think just the way that the songs pull together and like the connective tissue makes it a better record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think true is like good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all seven songs that I'm gonna dope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw her touring behind that and the show was great too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, see the table and true would be like, you know, kind of the must-have albums.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The soul angel album is kind of in the middle, and then the other two would be like, you know, if you are into Solange, like, really into Solange, like, listen to those albums, but otherwise you can skip them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would put solo star in the death of bottom, four stands only.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would actually put when I get home in the middle,

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[SPEAKER_00]: for her not trying to make part two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if I didn't like it as much like, right, I appreciate the creativity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of not my thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what would you like, if we take out the interludes or the skits, the skits, what would be your no skip rating for this one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd give it an eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we mentioned in our Grammys earlier for the Grammys Redux.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she wins 2017 Grammys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She wins best R&B performance for cranes in the sky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does the performance part even mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did there have to be some sort of live appearance where she?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so it used to be the way that the R&B categories were set up is that you know there was a category for male, female, and group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just throw all of those together and they just make it best R&B performance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's gender, unspecific, and it is also like, it could be a solo artist or it could be a group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's pretty much it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's basically like there's a best R&B song category, which is a songwriter's award.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that goes if you'll ever wrote a song in the best R&B performances by the artist, is given to the artist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't want

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to look at this album, a seated table, as far as like, nominations for Alma the year, because her sister's album is in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way she's beating her sister.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if we look at best urban contemporary album, she is not nominated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The nominations are Beyonce's lemonade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was she nominated for best R&B album?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'll get my next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The nominations for Best Urban Contemporary, Lemonade, Beyonce, all-ology from Gallant, we are King from King, Malibu from Anderson Pack and Anteye from Rihanna.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why isn't she, why is she not even nominated?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she should have been nominated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also Rihanna's not R&B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, or they said over-contemporary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Urban Contemporary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a different thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if you pronounce his name, Gallant or Galant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Galant, like the car, I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That album is really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, Salon should have been in one of those categories for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we get best R&B out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, Beyonce wins that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We get best R&B album for that year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Layla Hathaway Live, in my mind, BJ the Chicago kid, Velvet Portraits Terrace Martin, mint condition, healing session, and Maya's move zones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, Maya was still making records in 2016.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

01:00:02.347 --> 01:00:02.667
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:03.308 --> 01:00:07.291
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, why was Selan's not actually what they didn't when did that album come out?

01:00:07.531 --> 01:00:09.132
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the release date?

01:00:09.192 --> 01:00:10.913
[SPEAKER_00]: September, like late September.

01:00:11.454 --> 01:00:13.555
[SPEAKER_01]: So would it pass, it would it came out past the deadline.

01:00:13.716 --> 01:00:14.096
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why.

01:00:14.536 --> 01:00:14.816
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:00:14.936 --> 01:00:17.598
[SPEAKER_00]: So deadlines usually the end of August.

01:00:18.619 --> 01:00:26.205
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I looked at the 2018 Grammys, I wonder if she's nominated for any of these awards.

01:00:26.765 --> 01:00:27.226
[SPEAKER_00]: How am I?

01:00:27.286 --> 01:00:28.707
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to guess no.

01:00:31.632 --> 01:00:46.177
[SPEAKER_00]: As far as far as I know, okay, so best urban contemporary for the 2018 Grammys star boy by the weekend I don't even know how you pronounce this, but six lack is that just supposed to be black.

01:00:46.197 --> 01:00:47.758
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's supposed to be just black.

01:00:48.538 --> 01:00:57.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Childish Gambino awakened my love Khalid American teen control and then best darn be album would have been 24

01:01:00.822 --> 01:01:08.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Caesar, Freudian, let's, uh, Lidisi, let love rule, PJ Morton gumbo feel the real music soul child.

01:01:08.810 --> 01:01:09.851
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, so long.

01:01:09.891 --> 01:01:11.772
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why she didn't get not weird.

01:01:13.014 --> 01:01:13.594
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:01:14.395 --> 01:01:15.796
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:01:15.836 --> 01:01:17.037
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's on her team, man?

01:01:17.057 --> 01:01:19.400
[SPEAKER_00]: We, we need to push harder for this stuff.

01:01:21.125 --> 01:01:22.867
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I already did my hot take.

01:01:22.987 --> 01:01:25.729
[SPEAKER_00]: I jumped the gun on the hot take, but I thought it was so good.

01:01:25.749 --> 01:01:26.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

01:01:26.229 --> 01:01:27.250
[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.

01:01:27.270 --> 01:01:28.651
[SPEAKER_00]: So dream collaborator.

01:01:28.671 --> 01:01:44.225
[SPEAKER_00]: Here are the people that she has collaborated with, Rafael Sedic, Dev Hines, her sis, big sis, obviously Q-tip and Samfun, Lil Wayne and the dream and BJ, the Chicago kid all on a seat at the table.

01:01:45.045 --> 01:01:47.668
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess she did work with Ferrell on when I get home.

01:01:48.648 --> 01:01:58.215
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, also when she was younger, I worked with the Neptune's, uh, and such, so who, who would you want to see her work with?

01:01:58.235 --> 01:02:01.958
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think, has she ever done like a duet with her sister?

01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:04.720
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that I know of.

01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.303
[SPEAKER_01]: I know she's written songs with and for her sister.

01:02:08.523 --> 01:02:08.843
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:09.864 --> 01:02:12.506
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I don't know that they've ever done like a song together.

01:02:12.526 --> 01:02:17.710
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, man, who would I like to see Selange do a record

01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:25.102
[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I thought about something and I have to take it back because I think they have worked together in the past.

01:02:25.142 --> 01:02:35.688
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say Brandy, but I believe so I think Selanche has written songs for Brandy, I would love to hear them do like a vocal do like that.

01:02:35.708 --> 01:02:37.349
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, totally.

01:02:51.529 --> 01:02:55.571
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think, um, jelly from Philly.

01:02:55.611 --> 01:02:59.213
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be, I was like, like a salange genomo nay record.

01:02:59.954 --> 01:03:01.855
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, that yeah, that would be like super kind of dope.

01:03:02.295 --> 01:03:04.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that would be kind of dope.

01:03:05.217 --> 01:03:06.818
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, or like, salange me gal.

01:03:07.498 --> 01:03:07.818
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

01:03:09.579 --> 01:03:12.381
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm just thinking like they're the lanes are kind of similar.

01:03:12.401 --> 01:03:18.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, maybe somebody more, I was going to say salange and see low green, but they did a record together.

01:03:21.587 --> 01:03:23.849
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe somebody that's more like the alternative space.

01:03:23.869 --> 01:03:26.571
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so, ah, here's something that would be really cool to launch in SEAL.

01:03:27.592 --> 01:03:29.893
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be cool.

01:03:29.913 --> 01:03:31.274
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we could be kind of a cool record.

01:03:31.555 --> 01:03:31.835
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:03:33.476 --> 01:03:35.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, all right, I think we got through this whole thing.

01:03:36.398 --> 01:03:36.738
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:03:37.419 --> 01:03:47.206
[SPEAKER_00]: So we, uh, just to kind of put the cap on this and not cap in the way that the young people say cap today.

01:03:47.286 --> 01:03:47.927
[SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha.

01:03:48.492 --> 01:03:50.133
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I had this conversation with somebody.

01:03:50.153 --> 01:03:54.575
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, when I was a little kid capping on someone meant like, you were like, making fun of their most.

01:03:54.595 --> 01:03:55.596
[SPEAKER_01]: You're snapping on on me.

01:03:55.616 --> 01:03:55.976
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:03:56.276 --> 01:03:58.117
[SPEAKER_00]: And now it means something totally different.

01:03:58.618 --> 01:03:59.238
[SPEAKER_00]: But, um,

01:04:00.531 --> 01:04:05.275
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, again, 28, 20, 16, it feels like because of all of the things that happened.

01:04:05.856 --> 01:04:08.519
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you get to try Babam and then you get this album.

01:04:09.339 --> 01:04:24.213
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you were to, if you were to think of music as educate me about what's going on in the world, I think these are two pretty darn good albums that would do that for people, you know, in the future who don't really know too much about this time frame.

01:04:24.394 --> 01:04:24.774
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

01:04:24.794 --> 01:04:25.555
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.

01:04:26.876 --> 01:04:28.998
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so that is it from here.

01:04:29.038 --> 01:04:31.260
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do more of these live streams, by the way.

01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:44.513
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, we do these shows on the weekends generally, probably not the best for YouTube views, but I think it's just, uh, it's more fun for me to do them live, so, uh, and we'll keep doing them live and we'll keep scheduling them out.

01:04:44.533 --> 01:04:45.954
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you follow our YouTube,

01:04:46.575 --> 01:05:10.639
[SPEAKER_00]: page 50 for 50 you'll get the notifications subscribe to that also on our audio feeds and by the way I am looking for a home for the future of this because I think a lot of the stuff that we're talking about will exist down the line and they will be of importance like that who's going to talk about you know some of the records that we talked about like you know in in five years maybe

01:05:14.700 --> 01:05:18.441
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking to I'm looking to do something with sub stack.

01:05:18.481 --> 01:05:20.242
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think sub stack would be a nice archive.

01:05:20.302 --> 01:05:25.243
[SPEAKER_00]: So we may start pushing some of our stuff there, but 50 for 50 dot net.

01:05:25.863 --> 01:05:28.284
[SPEAKER_00]: You can still go there and see all of it.

01:05:28.384 --> 01:05:30.084
[SPEAKER_00]: I just made change platforms.

01:05:30.124 --> 01:05:34.605
[SPEAKER_00]: I think 50 for 50 dot net will ultimately still work even on sub stack.

01:05:34.625 --> 01:05:36.026
[SPEAKER_00]: I just have to kind of have to change it.

01:05:36.246 --> 01:05:40.607
[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll still be the landing page and the last thing and I'll end with this is.

01:05:41.837 --> 01:05:47.259
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, I told Mike before the show started that uh, I was filling kind of ill this weekend.

01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:54.323
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's because I got my shingles vaccine man talk about the, oh, this is the vaccine for 50 for 50.

01:05:54.763 --> 01:05:56.203
[SPEAKER_00]: Is the shingles vaccine?

01:05:56.223 --> 01:06:00.725
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, sponsor 50.net is sponsored by the shingles vaccine.

01:06:01.206 --> 01:06:03.627
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have to get when you're 50 years old you do.

01:06:04.107 --> 01:06:05.848
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I got it,

01:06:07.108 --> 01:06:12.070
[SPEAKER_00]: The nurse was like, okay, this one, you know, this one's going to sting a little bit more.

01:06:12.110 --> 01:06:15.010
[SPEAKER_00]: The other one will not, you, you know, won't.

01:06:15.210 --> 01:06:18.111
[SPEAKER_00]: And so she puts it puts it in and it doesn't.

01:06:18.131 --> 01:06:22.132
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, like that felt like a little knife going into my shoulder.

01:06:22.152 --> 01:06:24.373
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why is that one a little bit more harsh?

01:06:24.433 --> 01:06:31.035
[SPEAKER_00]: And she said that the vaccine itself is a little bit of a thicker vaccine.

01:06:31.715 --> 01:06:34.736
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's not just the,

01:06:35.736 --> 01:06:37.217
[SPEAKER_00]: the the shot aspect of it.

01:06:37.337 --> 01:06:40.899
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the stuff going through your through your arm.

01:06:40.959 --> 01:06:43.640
[SPEAKER_00]: The liquid going through your arm is thicker.

01:06:43.700 --> 01:06:44.600
[SPEAKER_01]: That's very interesting.

01:06:44.761 --> 01:06:45.501
[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.

01:06:45.601 --> 01:06:47.642
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, my mind is crazy.

01:06:47.722 --> 01:06:49.083
[SPEAKER_00]: My shoulder is still sore.

01:06:49.163 --> 01:06:55.786
[SPEAKER_00]: Not that that's the biggest part of it It's mostly the you know you get the reaction your body reacts to it and

01:06:56.226 --> 01:07:08.611
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was okay that night that I did hit a wall the next morning, um, I was feeling it and then I'm all of said, I was like, Oh, I've started to feel better.

01:07:08.631 --> 01:07:11.192
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I started doing normal stuff, hit a wall again.

01:07:11.693 --> 01:07:14.454
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is my third day with it.

01:07:14.554 --> 01:07:16.655
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I'm out of the woods, we'll see.

01:07:17.415 --> 01:07:21.617
[SPEAKER_00]: My workout will tell me the truth on whether or not I'm all good or not.

01:07:21.677 --> 01:07:21.797
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:07:22.737 --> 01:07:22.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:07:22.978 --> 01:07:23.178
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:07:23.258 --> 01:07:26.724
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, get, but all that to say get the vaccine.

01:07:27.165 --> 01:07:30.731
[SPEAKER_01]: I got the shingles vaccine also a couple of months ago and it knocked me out as well.

01:07:31.212 --> 01:07:33.616
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have also had shingles.

01:07:34.257 --> 01:07:36.020
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want that zero out of 10.

01:07:36.060 --> 01:07:36.882
[SPEAKER_01]: Do not recommend.

01:07:37.323 --> 01:07:38.084
[SPEAKER_00]: Do not want that.

01:07:38.705 --> 01:07:38.905
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:07:39.025 --> 01:07:39.306
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:07:39.987 --> 01:07:41.169
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it from here for Mike.

01:07:41.209 --> 01:07:43.153
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm double G 50 for 50 dot net.

01:07:43.193 --> 01:07:45.216
[SPEAKER_00]: See you when we see you piece out.