Sept. 24, 2026
Usher's Top 5 Songs, Ranked and Defended
Garrett and Mike build their individual Top 5 Usher songs and put four more to the Rock With It or Stop With It test. Garrett's list: "U Remind Me" at No. 1, then "Yeah!," "U Got It Bad," "U Don't Have to Call," and "Will Work for Love" rounding it out — with plenty of other contenders (including "Burn," "Hey Daddy," "There Goes My Baby," "Hard II Love," "You Make Me Wanna...," and "My Way") getting a mention along the way.
Then it's Rock With It or Stop With It on "Love in This Club," "OMG," "My Boo," and "DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love" — checking which of Usher's 2000s-into-2010s hits still hold up today.
This episode pairs with our full Confessions deep dive, where we cover Usher's origin story, the making of the album, and the 8701/Napster leak story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: start with the top five on usher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just put up our 50 for 50 episode on confessions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't checked that out, listen to that, it was really fun to go back in time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I was telling Mike, while we were recording,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost didn't even need to run down for that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I pretty much knew all of those all of that stuff in my brain already But that is rare because some of the artists that that we are doing have such a long Discography not that I didn't but I feel like I was like right with us sure pretty much throughout every album really Except for the first one
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so let's play rock with it or stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have that many songs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to go through a few of them all right with you
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[SPEAKER_01]: on some of usher stuff that was out there, and I just don't know how well some of this stuff is aged.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, we talked about this song more, and I think we both rock with it, but honestly, I don't think it was like a hard rock with it when this song was out, because it was so overplayed, but I still enjoy it, and that is my boo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it came out right around the point when it was like, all right, we've had enough usher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've also had enough Alicia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So bringing y'all together just feels like too too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, when you've had too many snacks or too much good food or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's almost good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know what we didn't talk about on that episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This song was them both at the peak of their powers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was definitely like a super friends kind of song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so second album for Alicia's diary release keys and this would be usher's fourth album, but most popular album his biggest yeah and they're together on the same song and I don't think
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[SPEAKER_01]: as far as, you know, maybe our fandom was concerned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if either was bigger at the time than that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, it was kind of a peak of their power, super friends thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in hindsight, I think that that's a, again, the marketing of Confessions was tremendous, but in hindsight, like I don't even think I looked at it in that way because I just assumed like, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, these guys will be doing this kind of music for the rest of our lives and it really isn't like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, uh, what about love in this club?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the original version I'm going to stop with it, there's a remix with Beyonce and little Wayne and that I like, um, you know, and I'm not a little Wayne fan, so, uh, you know, extra, plus on top of that, um, but yeah, the remix I will rock with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I use a little Wayne quote the other day, which I didn't even really associate with Lil Wayne when I looked it up or when I said it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm in a, do you know what guillotine leagues are in fantasy football?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you, you, I'm sure you've played in a fantasy football league once in your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least I have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you draft these teams of players and you play head-to-head against other people and who's got the best fake team wins at the end and so in a guillotine league you don't play against anybody basically
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[SPEAKER_01]: your score gets ranked against everybody's score that week and the person who has the lowest score gets kicked out of the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I'm in a league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in a league with my kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, they just needed one extra person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, yeah, I'll, I'll join.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's all, you know, people who are 30 years younger than me, like really not actually not 30 like 20 25 26 years younger than me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're all talking trash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're just like, you know, you can't take it, you know, they're not talking to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're talking to other people, you know, you can't take it, you can't take the talk and this and that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just posted one thing I said,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Real G's move in silence like that's not here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god I knew that was gonna be the quote too
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had always attributed that to somebody other than little way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize that he was the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's a big has a reference to it, but he doesn't say it in that same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's so there we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my little Wayne story the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rock with both versions, though, it's kind of like, you know, kind of a little bit more than thumbs in the middle for both versions, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if I don't list it, I rarely hear that song, so when I do hear it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, this is, this is a pretty good post-confessions usher song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got two that I'm going to guess your stopping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them is OMG.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop so hard for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're both stopping on that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that song is awful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what about DJ's got us falling in love?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when usher started doing kind of like the dance pop stuff, I was not super thrilled about that, um, you know, if I'm out somewhere, I mean, if I'm online at like the salad place and DJ got us falling in love comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to kind of pop to a little bit, but it's not something that I'm going to listen to at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what about when the people part comes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I pretend I'm not hearing anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, that's the problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If that song was just usher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would really like that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, but the people pit bull part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand why he's in it, obviously, but it makes it like almost a completely different song for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People's not my cup of tea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to our top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My top five, I'm going to guess, was probably not like on your top 20.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking that our top five is probably going to be very similar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this is my number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, I think it's an extra like a bonus cut or something on here I stand, it is called work for love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, our top five's maybe will not be the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: will work for love is what it's called.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, this song is it's a little sort of in your feelings and a little whiny, but yeah, that's what the song is, but basically,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Usher is, now, this is not a great visual, but it's almost like Usher is kind of on the street and like, you know, looking for some side job from somebody to get some money, but instead of looking for money, he's looking for love, he will work for it is is the thing, but it's not a sex, it's not an over sexualized song, which it kind of might sound like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, uh, but it is a little, a little dramatic, you know, for my guy who, I'm caught up at, probably could, you know, go onto any street corner and probably find somebody who's willing to hang with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is definitely not someone who I think has had to work for love very often.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little cheesy, but I, it's one of the posts, again, one of the post-confession songs that I really like if it's catalogue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right, that's a that's a good pull.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number five is a more of an obvious song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a you remind me It's just like it's one of those songs that's not like a spectacular song But you can sing along with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very much in the pocket is very easy going and kind of chill Usher just kind of like owns that song And I love
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[SPEAKER_00]: is it really my number one my dad did us your song of all time yeah i mean us you should have just done a whole record with Jimmy Jan and Terry Lewis yes um and i i mean they're also alive it can still happen um but you know it's funny when we were talking during the actual episode
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[SPEAKER_00]: about artists who make like more mature records, they could come together and make an album like Janet's last album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for usher, I would be like, I'd line up to get that record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that kind of screws with me with this song is Archely had a song called you remind me Oh, much different song But yeah, I hear the titles of both songs I go, oh my gosh, I think of the Archely song because our Kelly song came out You know, many years before
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean Mary Jane also had a song called you remind me you're my me but usher did not compare the love of his life to a jeep to a jeep in this song yeah so no this is my favorite usher song it is the most
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, my number four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we're gonna go, and this is kind of where I had to really come to grips with my fandom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think like listening with 2026 arms, uh, arms, ears, uh, you don't, you don't have to call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it doesn't age that well, especially, you know, name dropping for Rell and for real and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I still really like this song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When this song comes on, I kind of get hyped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to call as my number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like it's energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's a party, it's super upbeat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think some of it is the time period how old you were when that song came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, you know the party is started when that song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Questlove has ever recited usher's own lyrics to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't leave you girl around me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: True play for real for real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, guys, I hope that's where I've been fighting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this song is just, like you said, energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just get hyped, like I'm, again, this is like, you know, we talked about this in the last episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: one of the songs where if you put it on and you're at, uh, a backyard barbecue or like a party or something, people will get hyped when this song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might not be yeah in the same way, just because I think yeah, it was a little bit more popular and just kind of big, but this song as well, like people jam to this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and for what it's worth, I have stood in the same room as usher and I have stood in the same room with Questlove and my I'd put money on Questlove for beating that ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got your speaker's got usher's got muscles, but usher's also like my height.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then those who've never seen me, I'm not a tall guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but now we didn't talk about this in the episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I meant to bring it up, but I forgot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Usher played sugary Leonard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right in the Roberto Duran biopic, which I went to the theater to see, and I may have been one of only like five people in in in which the movie itself was not great and Usher as sugary Leonard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could kind of see the resemblance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, wasn't a terrible idea for him to play Sugar Ray, slightly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you said, Sugar Ray is just like a bigger human.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's just said, like an athlete versus you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Usher's athletic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got great genetics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously dude, it does backflips and splits and glides across the stage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he's definitely an athlete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's a, I mean, sugar rate was a well-to-weight, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like sugar rate?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sugar rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sugar rate started, you know, sugar rate kind of grew up a little bit through the ranks and, you know, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One forty seven probably his best weight, and then, but he did go up in weight to face Marvin Hagler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he went up again later in his career to beat a kid by the name of Donny LaLont who was the original golden boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's still that big, I thought he had lost like a bunch of weight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's lost, but he's still like a big dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the last time I would have seen him on something was when he was on Abbott Elementary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I went to, he did a DJ set like a week ago, and I was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he's a big brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I'm jealous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just get to go to events that Quest loves just hanging out and doing his journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you gotta live in New York, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, see that that's as, you know, just thinking about culture and stuff and things that I would actually go out of my way to do instead of just my normal day to day I would go out of my way to to go look at to go see stuff like that's okay and in those in those areas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that was your number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was your number, yeah, and your number four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number four, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is your number four?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number four is throwback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about that a little bit during the episode, like I just love the D.M.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Warwick sample.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just plays, I think, doesn't get credit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His proper credit as a producer, like, even talking about like, Jay Z records he did and pump it up by Joe Button and, you know, like, all these great songs
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's a great, like, most of the things it well is great lyric.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I prefer the version without the rap on it, which I think was stripped onto the album later, with JD Kiss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just think, like, particularly with the sequencing, like, starting the album off way, yeah, and then, kind of like, immediately, like slowing it down and throwback, I think that's, like, you know, when people used to actually take tunnel, like, sequence albums properly, I think that was a really good decision to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really like that song and and like you said the production in the samples really what stands out and yeah, just the term throwback throwback is just a cool term.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my number three is you got it bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: great song it's it's a great song it is and it actually so I had to figure out where I wanted to throw my usher slow jams on this because there are quite a few that I really enjoy what missed my list was burn
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, there goes my baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets into his, uh, falsetto a little bit too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I still liked that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and yeah, and in this one, um, so I was like, what, like, you know, which one do I like better?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was going back through them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got a bad, actually, did, uh, did went out here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a good song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you talk about sing along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you go to a show and they play music before the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just kind of like when I'm going to crowd up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been to a bunch of shows and they play you got it bad over the course of like the the pre show and you want to get like a room full of people singing along like you know it's funny I remember I went to my friend Bailey's birthday party and Bailey is like a 25 year old white girl from the Midwest and you know I think everybody I was definitely the oldest person at the party and most of the people there were like younger millennial
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, like 25 to 3233.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were just like playing videos off YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you got a bad video came on an every single person sang along with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just one of those songs everybody knows the words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just one of those songs, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like music itself, I feel like, now, I'm sure there are statistics that we'll say, oh, more music is listened to today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to Spotify and Apple music that never before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, I just know that when it comes to songs and their ability to become so renowned that the majority of people that you know know the words of that song, it's like it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, not at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what is number three for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number three is climax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think in terms of usher as a singer, mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He...
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[SPEAKER_00]: He hits the top of his range.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes low, like it's just a very complex song missing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also love the fact that the song is called Climax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think it's about one thing and it's actually about a relationship reaching its climax and like having nowhere to go after it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm sure it was intended for us to think one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, number two for me is, you know, kind of an obvious one is, yeah, I think it's, it's one of the top five, in the last 20 years, party starters that, that they're could possibly be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an amazing song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially, you know, we talked about going to clubs or going to bars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one positive of going to a club is to hear songs like this very loudly and to see people react right if you're the people watching oh my gosh like this song or and you can sort of tell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not only age, but also, you know something about somebody, if yeah, comes on and they get hyped versus if poison comes on and they get hyped and you go, okay, so that's more along the lines of, you know, my age and this song's a little bit more along the lines of maybe a little bit younger than me, but yes, at the, one of the top songs when it comes to that is just, what a, what a, and we told the story of how it got changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's another thing that, you know, sometimes these flukes happen, you can got to rearrange and adjust and this was for the best here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So good job on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was also my number two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I share a lot of the same opinion to you have about so much like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You, you know, you're in a club, that song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody gets height, you're at a white wedding, that song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody gets height.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're at a black wedding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody gets height.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're at a barbecue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody gets high family reunion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody like, you know, block party.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you are between the ages of like 25 and 50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: there's something about that song that's gonna hit you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, it's kind of like an anthem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, like it's not structurally like a super song, but I think it's just kind of like time and place and the vibe of this song and ludicrous and little John and like all of that together is just, again, just like a crazy, like you're at a basketball game that song comes on people get hyped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like everything about it is just big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if it came to your preference of listening to Lil' John and Luda Chris, in a song, this has also got to be like near the top of that list of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, I mean, I don't, with little John in particular, there's like three little John's three songs with little John on it that I would listen to if I'm like sitting in the crib and usher is also on two of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, usher and ludicrous are on two of those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you wait?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the other one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because lovers and friends is the other one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now what about from ludicrous?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Luda's got some bangers from his early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his early stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like Luda Chris is someone of all like they don't make greatest hits records anymore, but like if Luda Chris had it, if there was a Luda Chris greatest hits, like it would have like 10 bangers on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my favorite Luda Chris song is what's a shaker money maker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Duh, that's a good song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As you were saying that I was thinking of usher, he doesn't have a greatest hits from what I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they don't really make, because you know, you can make playlists, so I mean, obviously, there's, you know, this is usher on Spotify or essential usher on Apple music, like, you know, which is essentially a greatest hit sound, but if, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say if someone at usher's label is listening and, you know, you put in usher's greatest hits out on vinyl because 8701 is not on vinyl my way and confessions are 8701 is not 1001 yeah, I wonder why too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because as soon as they put that out loud on vinyl and buying it, you know, but if you took like all of the songs with those three albums and put them on a greatest hits, you'd sell a bunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what album I just pre-purchased on vinyl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 25th anniversary of invincible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I saw, like there's the air friday that they were putting that out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, I already have that album on vinyl, but I don't think I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's possible that I do and I just didn't I just forgot and I just re-bought it again, but yeah, so I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I my kid actually sent it to me and and so I bought it because I don't think I have it, but I think sometimes that I don't have stuff and I do and I just rebuke it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, I do the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I got to do a much better job of it like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can log me my stuff and keeping it in order.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I just read a week and job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just recently did that too So I have all of my stuff in order I was just in the other room and was like, oh, I need to buy this and then when I thought about it I was like wait should I do that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute to make sure or should I trust my instinct here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so so we'll be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what we're probably not going to do a top five on CISA because she's only got two albums.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we may have to do something for a cool check in next week and so we'll have to think about some topics that we've been wanting to kind of talk about outside of the historical music sense and maybe something new that is out there that we can
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am WG and of course you heard us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't say what our one was because we both had each others ones in our other part of our top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah for me you are in my me and for you you don't you don't have to call All right, that is it for my WGC when we see you piece out
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[SPEAKER_01]: start with the top five on usher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just put up our 50 for 50 episode on confessions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't checked that out, listen to that, it was really fun to go back in time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I was telling Mike, while we were recording,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost didn't even need to run down for that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I pretty much knew all of those all of that stuff in my brain already But that is rare because some of the artists that that we are doing have such a long Discography not that I didn't but I feel like I was like right with us sure pretty much throughout every album really Except for the first one
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so let's play rock with it or stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have that many songs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to go through a few of them all right with you
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[SPEAKER_01]: on some of usher stuff that was out there, and I just don't know how well some of this stuff is aged.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, we talked about this song more, and I think we both rock with it, but honestly, I don't think it was like a hard rock with it when this song was out, because it was so overplayed, but I still enjoy it, and that is my boo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it came out right around the point when it was like, all right, we've had enough usher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've also had enough Alicia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So bringing y'all together just feels like too too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, when you've had too many snacks or too much good food or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's almost good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know what we didn't talk about on that episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This song was them both at the peak of their powers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was definitely like a super friends kind of song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so second album for Alicia's diary release keys and this would be usher's fourth album, but most popular album his biggest yeah and they're together on the same song and I don't think
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[SPEAKER_01]: as far as, you know, maybe our fandom was concerned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if either was bigger at the time than that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, it was kind of a peak of their power, super friends thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in hindsight, I think that that's a, again, the marketing of Confessions was tremendous, but in hindsight, like I don't even think I looked at it in that way because I just assumed like, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, these guys will be doing this kind of music for the rest of our lives and it really isn't like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, uh, what about love in this club?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the original version I'm going to stop with it, there's a remix with Beyonce and little Wayne and that I like, um, you know, and I'm not a little Wayne fan, so, uh, you know, extra, plus on top of that, um, but yeah, the remix I will rock with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I use a little Wayne quote the other day, which I didn't even really associate with Lil Wayne when I looked it up or when I said it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm in a, do you know what guillotine leagues are in fantasy football?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you, you, I'm sure you've played in a fantasy football league once in your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least I have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you draft these teams of players and you play head-to-head against other people and who's got the best fake team wins at the end and so in a guillotine league you don't play against anybody basically
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[SPEAKER_01]: your score gets ranked against everybody's score that week and the person who has the lowest score gets kicked out of the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I'm in a league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in a league with my kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, they just needed one extra person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, yeah, I'll, I'll join.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's all, you know, people who are 30 years younger than me, like really not actually not 30 like 20 25 26 years younger than me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're all talking trash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're just like, you know, you can't take it, you know, they're not talking to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're talking to other people, you know, you can't take it, you can't take the talk and this and that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just posted one thing I said,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Real G's move in silence like that's not here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god I knew that was gonna be the quote too
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had always attributed that to somebody other than little way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize that he was the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's a big has a reference to it, but he doesn't say it in that same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's so there we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my little Wayne story the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rock with both versions, though, it's kind of like, you know, kind of a little bit more than thumbs in the middle for both versions, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if I don't list it, I rarely hear that song, so when I do hear it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, this is, this is a pretty good post-confessions usher song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got two that I'm going to guess your stopping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them is OMG.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop so hard for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're both stopping on that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that song is awful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what about DJ's got us falling in love?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when usher started doing kind of like the dance pop stuff, I was not super thrilled about that, um, you know, if I'm out somewhere, I mean, if I'm online at like the salad place and DJ got us falling in love comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to kind of pop to a little bit, but it's not something that I'm going to listen to at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what about when the people part comes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I pretend I'm not hearing anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, that's the problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If that song was just usher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would really like that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, but the people pit bull part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand why he's in it, obviously, but it makes it like almost a completely different song for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People's not my cup of tea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to our top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My top five, I'm going to guess, was probably not like on your top 20.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking that our top five is probably going to be very similar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this is my number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, I think it's an extra like a bonus cut or something on here I stand, it is called work for love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, our top five's maybe will not be the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: will work for love is what it's called.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, this song is it's a little sort of in your feelings and a little whiny, but yeah, that's what the song is, but basically,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Usher is, now, this is not a great visual, but it's almost like Usher is kind of on the street and like, you know, looking for some side job from somebody to get some money, but instead of looking for money, he's looking for love, he will work for it is is the thing, but it's not a sex, it's not an over sexualized song, which it kind of might sound like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, uh, but it is a little, a little dramatic, you know, for my guy who, I'm caught up at, probably could, you know, go onto any street corner and probably find somebody who's willing to hang with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is definitely not someone who I think has had to work for love very often.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little cheesy, but I, it's one of the posts, again, one of the post-confession songs that I really like if it's catalogue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right, that's a that's a good pull.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number five is a more of an obvious song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a you remind me It's just like it's one of those songs that's not like a spectacular song But you can sing along with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very much in the pocket is very easy going and kind of chill Usher just kind of like owns that song And I love
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[SPEAKER_00]: is it really my number one my dad did us your song of all time yeah i mean us you should have just done a whole record with Jimmy Jan and Terry Lewis yes um and i i mean they're also alive it can still happen um but you know it's funny when we were talking during the actual episode
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[SPEAKER_00]: about artists who make like more mature records, they could come together and make an album like Janet's last album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for usher, I would be like, I'd line up to get that record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that kind of screws with me with this song is Archely had a song called you remind me Oh, much different song But yeah, I hear the titles of both songs I go, oh my gosh, I think of the Archely song because our Kelly song came out You know, many years before
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean Mary Jane also had a song called you remind me you're my me but usher did not compare the love of his life to a jeep to a jeep in this song yeah so no this is my favorite usher song it is the most
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, my number four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we're gonna go, and this is kind of where I had to really come to grips with my fandom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think like listening with 2026 arms, uh, arms, ears, uh, you don't, you don't have to call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it doesn't age that well, especially, you know, name dropping for Rell and for real and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I still really like this song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When this song comes on, I kind of get hyped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to call as my number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like it's energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's a party, it's super upbeat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think some of it is the time period how old you were when that song came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, you know the party is started when that song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Questlove has ever recited usher's own lyrics to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't leave you girl around me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: True play for real for real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, guys, I hope that's where I've been fighting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this song is just, like you said, energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just get hyped, like I'm, again, this is like, you know, we talked about this in the last episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: one of the songs where if you put it on and you're at, uh, a backyard barbecue or like a party or something, people will get hyped when this song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might not be yeah in the same way, just because I think yeah, it was a little bit more popular and just kind of big, but this song as well, like people jam to this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and for what it's worth, I have stood in the same room as usher and I have stood in the same room with Questlove and my I'd put money on Questlove for beating that ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got your speaker's got usher's got muscles, but usher's also like my height.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then those who've never seen me, I'm not a tall guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but now we didn't talk about this in the episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I meant to bring it up, but I forgot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Usher played sugary Leonard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right in the Roberto Duran biopic, which I went to the theater to see, and I may have been one of only like five people in in in which the movie itself was not great and Usher as sugary Leonard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could kind of see the resemblance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, wasn't a terrible idea for him to play Sugar Ray, slightly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you said, Sugar Ray is just like a bigger human.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's just said, like an athlete versus you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Usher's athletic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got great genetics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously dude, it does backflips and splits and glides across the stage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he's definitely an athlete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's a, I mean, sugar rate was a well-to-weight, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like sugar rate?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sugar rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sugar rate started, you know, sugar rate kind of grew up a little bit through the ranks and, you know, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One forty seven probably his best weight, and then, but he did go up in weight to face Marvin Hagler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he went up again later in his career to beat a kid by the name of Donny LaLont who was the original golden boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's still that big, I thought he had lost like a bunch of weight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's lost, but he's still like a big dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the last time I would have seen him on something was when he was on Abbott Elementary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I went to, he did a DJ set like a week ago, and I was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he's a big brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I'm jealous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just get to go to events that Quest loves just hanging out and doing his journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you gotta live in New York, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, see that that's as, you know, just thinking about culture and stuff and things that I would actually go out of my way to do instead of just my normal day to day I would go out of my way to to go look at to go see stuff like that's okay and in those in those areas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that was your number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was your number, yeah, and your number four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number four, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is your number four?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number four is throwback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about that a little bit during the episode, like I just love the D.M.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Warwick sample.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just plays, I think, doesn't get credit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His proper credit as a producer, like, even talking about like, Jay Z records he did and pump it up by Joe Button and, you know, like, all these great songs
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's a great, like, most of the things it well is great lyric.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I prefer the version without the rap on it, which I think was stripped onto the album later, with JD Kiss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just think, like, particularly with the sequencing, like, starting the album off way, yeah, and then, kind of like, immediately, like slowing it down and throwback, I think that's, like, you know, when people used to actually take tunnel, like, sequence albums properly, I think that was a really good decision to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really like that song and and like you said the production in the samples really what stands out and yeah, just the term throwback throwback is just a cool term.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my number three is you got it bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: great song it's it's a great song it is and it actually so I had to figure out where I wanted to throw my usher slow jams on this because there are quite a few that I really enjoy what missed my list was burn
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, there goes my baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets into his, uh, falsetto a little bit too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I still liked that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and yeah, and in this one, um, so I was like, what, like, you know, which one do I like better?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was going back through them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got a bad, actually, did, uh, did went out here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a good song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you talk about sing along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you go to a show and they play music before the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just kind of like when I'm going to crowd up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been to a bunch of shows and they play you got it bad over the course of like the the pre show and you want to get like a room full of people singing along like you know it's funny I remember I went to my friend Bailey's birthday party and Bailey is like a 25 year old white girl from the Midwest and you know I think everybody I was definitely the oldest person at the party and most of the people there were like younger millennial
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, like 25 to 3233.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were just like playing videos off YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you got a bad video came on an every single person sang along with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just one of those songs everybody knows the words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just one of those songs, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like music itself, I feel like, now, I'm sure there are statistics that we'll say, oh, more music is listened to today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to Spotify and Apple music that never before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, I just know that when it comes to songs and their ability to become so renowned that the majority of people that you know know the words of that song, it's like it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, not at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what is number three for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number three is climax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think in terms of usher as a singer, mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He...
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[SPEAKER_00]: He hits the top of his range.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes low, like it's just a very complex song missing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also love the fact that the song is called Climax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think it's about one thing and it's actually about a relationship reaching its climax and like having nowhere to go after it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm sure it was intended for us to think one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, number two for me is, you know, kind of an obvious one is, yeah, I think it's, it's one of the top five, in the last 20 years, party starters that, that they're could possibly be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an amazing song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially, you know, we talked about going to clubs or going to bars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one positive of going to a club is to hear songs like this very loudly and to see people react right if you're the people watching oh my gosh like this song or and you can sort of tell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not only age, but also, you know something about somebody, if yeah, comes on and they get hyped versus if poison comes on and they get hyped and you go, okay, so that's more along the lines of, you know, my age and this song's a little bit more along the lines of maybe a little bit younger than me, but yes, at the, one of the top songs when it comes to that is just, what a, what a, and we told the story of how it got changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's another thing that, you know, sometimes these flukes happen, you can got to rearrange and adjust and this was for the best here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So good job on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was also my number two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I share a lot of the same opinion to you have about so much like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You, you know, you're in a club, that song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody gets height, you're at a white wedding, that song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody gets height.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're at a black wedding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody gets height.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're at a barbecue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody gets high family reunion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song comes on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody like, you know, block party.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you are between the ages of like 25 and 50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: there's something about that song that's gonna hit you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, it's kind of like an anthem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, like it's not structurally like a super song, but I think it's just kind of like time and place and the vibe of this song and ludicrous and little John and like all of that together is just, again, just like a crazy, like you're at a basketball game that song comes on people get hyped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like everything about it is just big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if it came to your preference of listening to Lil' John and Luda Chris, in a song, this has also got to be like near the top of that list of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, I mean, I don't, with little John in particular, there's like three little John's three songs with little John on it that I would listen to if I'm like sitting in the crib and usher is also on two of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, usher and ludicrous are on two of those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you wait?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the other one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because lovers and friends is the other one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now what about from ludicrous?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Luda's got some bangers from his early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his early stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like Luda Chris is someone of all like they don't make greatest hits records anymore, but like if Luda Chris had it, if there was a Luda Chris greatest hits, like it would have like 10 bangers on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my favorite Luda Chris song is what's a shaker money maker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Duh, that's a good song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As you were saying that I was thinking of usher, he doesn't have a greatest hits from what I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they don't really make, because you know, you can make playlists, so I mean, obviously, there's, you know, this is usher on Spotify or essential usher on Apple music, like, you know, which is essentially a greatest hit sound, but if, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say if someone at usher's label is listening and, you know, you put in usher's greatest hits out on vinyl because 8701 is not on vinyl my way and confessions are 8701 is not 1001 yeah, I wonder why too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because as soon as they put that out loud on vinyl and buying it, you know, but if you took like all of the songs with those three albums and put them on a greatest hits, you'd sell a bunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what album I just pre-purchased on vinyl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 25th anniversary of invincible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I saw, like there's the air friday that they were putting that out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, I already have that album on vinyl, but I don't think I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's possible that I do and I just didn't I just forgot and I just re-bought it again, but yeah, so I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I my kid actually sent it to me and and so I bought it because I don't think I have it, but I think sometimes that I don't have stuff and I do and I just rebuke it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, I do the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I got to do a much better job of it like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can log me my stuff and keeping it in order.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I just read a week and job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just recently did that too So I have all of my stuff in order I was just in the other room and was like, oh, I need to buy this and then when I thought about it I was like wait should I do that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute to make sure or should I trust my instinct here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so so we'll be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what we're probably not going to do a top five on CISA because she's only got two albums.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we may have to do something for a cool check in next week and so we'll have to think about some topics that we've been wanting to kind of talk about outside of the historical music sense and maybe something new that is out there that we can
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am WG and of course you heard us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't say what our one was because we both had each others ones in our other part of our top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah for me you are in my me and for you you don't you don't have to call All right, that is it for my WGC when we see you piece out