Sept. 13, 2026
Best Madonna Hits: From Into the Groove to Vogue | Top 5
Ranking Madonna's best songs, plus Rock With It or Stop With It on five more classics
We're ranking Madonna's catalog. This week's Top 5 spans four decades of hits — Vogue, Dress You Up, Into the Groove, and Papa Don't Preach are all in the conversation — as we build our individual lists and defend every pick.
Before that: Rock With It or Stop With It, putting five more Madonna classics to the test — Like a Virgin, 4 Minutes, Who's That Girl, Justify My Love, and Ray of Light — to see which still hold up and which haven't aged well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is our top five on Madonna.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you heard our 50 for 50 episode on Madonna, I mentioned that my top five leans heavy to the earlier part of our career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I have a song from her post 1990 on my top five just as a little clue there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm in the same boat as you, my the latest song on my list is 1990.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we do that, I want to drop a little rock with it or stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she has so much music and a lot of the music, I think, age is very well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I'm not sure what's on my list aged poorly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just interested in what you think about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I know I have my thoughts, but for the first song, I tease this one like a virgin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's fine rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't dislike it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not a song that I seek out to listen to very often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm stopping, but it smells to be because of the trauma that it created for the young me that I mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I did not have that trauma.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what about 2000s music?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so like mid to me, I mean, it's not a bad song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll rock with it again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just in the big, like dictionary of Madonna songs is kind of in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like the beat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the beat is very catchy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of reminds me a little bit of like video games, but the song and of it itself, I don't think is a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do enjoy the beat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do remember her performing it on the Grammys with Lulem Bowow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen a little bow wow of late?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got to be like 40 now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a big bow wower, thicker bow wower, whatever you want to call him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, is he scroll bow wower, is he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's like heavy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last photo I saw of him, he looked heavy, but it could be some people messing with, you know, they like to create memes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not gonna say that that was 100% sourced information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was literally like a scrolling Twitter post that I saw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also, so there was not to go off on like a bow-out tangent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a TV pilot that he did where Kim feels plays his mom and Joey Lawrence plays his agent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, this is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kimfields.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joey Lawrence more 80s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 80s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's early 90s, which is clearly like, when did Bowel come out late 90.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2001.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Mike was like 2002.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four minutes rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean Madonna and Justin should have done a whole album together in my opinion Who's that girl?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's cute rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very memorable It's like when when I when I hear it I go oh I haven't heard this song in a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: La Isla Bonita.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the song that I'm going to stop with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird because La Isla Bonita and who's that girl are virtually the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're very similar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: La Isla Bonita is kind of goofy though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I stopped with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's sort of the same thing with who's that girl I go where I go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't heard this in a long time So it's kind of a treat, but it's not something that I would then immediately go listen to again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right here's one Just to find my love You I'll probably stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't go listening to that very often
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty haunting song when you listen, it's like the beat and then Jay-Z did justify my thug.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just find my thug which is terrible, but shout out to Lenny Crabbit to produce that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a very time and place thing when I hear that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such like a 1990 thing, like a Madonna song produced by Lenny Crabbit's
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[SPEAKER_01]: that is based off of a public enemy sample.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, die another day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that song a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like the movie, which he's in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen the movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big James Bond guy, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're rebooting James Bond and one of the directors, the guy who does, uh, Dune, he's going to be directing the, the reboose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's playing James Bond?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like five young-ish actors that are kind of in the running and they haven't decided yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me Idrus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, good luck with Michael B. Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you, but they're never they will never I can see Michael B. Jordan is James Bond Michael B. Jordan is doing Tom's Crown Fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, he is directing and starring in Tom's Crown of Fair for a chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hit or miss with Dyna other day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just more for kicks than anything else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't cry for me, Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not fucking with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what that song is, I just, I probably would have had to just say don't cry and then you would have known what the song was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, I feel like it was like a meme before we knew what memes were or before we described them as memes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's an interesting one that I hadn't heard in a very long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This used to be my playground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that song weirdly came up for me recently too and I'm not sure what the context was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop with it, it's just kind of boring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very boring song for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when I listened to it again, I was like, I remember the video because it was around the league of their own time for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it's because the video had parts of the movie that made it okay, but when I just listened to the audio, I was like, hmm, this isn't that good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a boring song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what about Ray of Light, the sort of last one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am not crazy about this, oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's like lower mid for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm going to stop with that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we talked about this a little bit with that album, but a lot of people who were not into Madonna liked that album because of her maturity, let's say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, it's when she stopped becoming cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was with that album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't really maturity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just, you know, her music
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she became a mom and she made an album about sort of like spiritual contentment and peace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's nothing immature about the music that she made before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was more nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was more or less mature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just more conventional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Less sexualized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to our top five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to go first?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want me to go first?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you go first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm listening to these songs, man, these first two albums, just the very beginning of the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I know what this is, and it takes me back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Borderline number five for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Simple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pop song, very singable, very memorable chorus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of her being young and kind of even before she becomes that boss lady that we talked about in the other episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like like pre-a little bit and it's just the listening of that again brought me back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean borderline was her first top 10 record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what's number five for you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number five for me is Vogue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Vogue is on my list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just, uh, you know, it's a great song, regardless of, like, the historical context of it, Midland America had no idea what Vogue was until this song came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Peek of her, peak of her performance, is that when she was most famous, you think, like, where?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, I think so too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but classic record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's actually number two for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just up there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number four for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is more of a cute one again because of the MTV generation and because of Eddie Murphy raw material girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, does Eddie talking about material girl and raw?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not maybe not in raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think he does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, is it during the Umpufu skit?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a material maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always think of the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I always think of Eddie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What have you done for me, Eddie?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's when he's talking about Johnny Carson being on the cover of the inquire because he lost half his money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, a material girl in a material world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you, you're not getting a money if you, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, he said it, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that, but that is very MTV for me, like you talked about the video and in our 50 for 50 episode, but like, if I'm thinking of like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: songs that I saw on MTV before I would have really heard them on the radio like that fits in so the visual took over before the audio from the audio did I get that yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a memory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I didn't even have MTV and the video is so memorable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's number four?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got some.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number four is actually your number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I number four was borderline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of those like sneaky bit on the songs where it's like you just kind of take it for granted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But every time it comes on, I'm just like, oh, I love this song so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did a version of that song with the roots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm and slow it way down and it's so good and actually reveals like what a good singer she is Which she will she would rarely get credit for yeah for her voice yeah But I think this song and my number three song are really like testament to like her voice
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will say that my number three is I kind of think of I kind of put this in the same category as material girl they're from the same album and again, it's that video thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm actually going to I'll combine this with material go because dress you by I think of an exact the same way and instead I'm going to pivot a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna add human nature here as number three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I relish into that song, I was like, I forgot how good this song was, how catchy this song was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I lied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think human nature's like what 90, 94, 94.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be the latest song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I put together my top five, I had meant to combine dress you up in material world together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so human nature slides into number three for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean human nature is a Michael Jackson song to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when she put out her version I was like, come on man, like, can't say man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then listening back very different songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this song is the song is really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, my number three is poppin on preach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and not even for like the message of it, um, which is still very unclear whether like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that my baby that she's going to keep is an actual baby or her boyfriend, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I think it was left ambiguous on purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I always thought it was a child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always thought that like when I listened to it, I just assumed it was always about a baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the video gives it the context that it's about a baby, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I think the lyrics were deliberately,
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[SPEAKER_01]: not on the money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could take it a couple of different ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But going back to what I was saying earlier about Madonna's voice, I think like this is one of her most powerful vocal performances and she's like belting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not something that she did very often.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just a tough song
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, propulsive and, you know, it's just like a great pop song and plus this album is at the upper tier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kelly Osborne just floated past my head because I forgot that she did a remake of Papa don't okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I said my I said Vogue was too for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what is number two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number two is actually not a super popular Madonna song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's keep it together, which is on the album like a prayer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Prince plays guitar on that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, how many times did they collaborate?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's twice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, or maybe three, like, it's all on that one album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but I think he's on three different songs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did, like, love song together, and then he plays guitar on keep it together and like a prayer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but keep it together is like to me, the funkiest McDonald's song, it's got a really like touching lyric about families and how, you know, getting along despite your differences and, you know, keeping your bonds together, um, I remember that the, was it true to there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might not have been true to there, I definitely remember where I was when I watched
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[SPEAKER_01]: The end of, it was like the end of 1994 and it was the first time that I was like in a room together at like somebody's apartment with like a handful of other queer people and like it just felt like such a like a cool like bonding moment I was 18 like it just you know like I remember that very clearly and I want to say
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was the last song of, I don't remember, is that show where the girl we show?
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those Madonna, like, long-horn video movies, keep it together was like the last one, and then she brings like the whole tour crew out on stage and it's like a very touching thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that sounds always like had a special place in my heart because it's very like innocent and pure and, you know, about family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, my number one, and I will fully admit that this is a bias pick because of desperately seeking Susan, but there's a moment in this movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now this is like maybe one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the character
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that Madonna is playing is not herself, but she dresses very much like very much like Madonna right she looks like Madonna She is not Madonna, but she is in a club.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She put she's by the jukebox, I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: And her own song comes on and she grooves to her own song that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen and like just a flex of all flexes into the groove is that a budget thing or like most of the reasoning behind that I have no idea but whatever it was it was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would be like, you know, on the set of the whiz, even, you know, instead of he's on down the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You play don't stop to get enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, MJ doesn't MJ song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, I was like, whoa, I forgot that this had happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was so cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, I love that song anyways, but it probably did bump up after watching a desperately seeking Susan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, what's your number one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number one is your number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Into the group was my number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I talk a lot about songs that take me back to like a specific place in time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can just remember Summer of 1985 being in Brooklyn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that song, and I wonder if I take you home by Lisa Lisa, popular at around the same time, and every card driving by was playing one of those two songs to awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like it's a definition of summer for me,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just dancing and like allowing yourself to like let go like so much freedom and fun is in that song Could we go back to those times I wish I wish you know, I was Walking around a couple days ago and like stumbled on like a block party and I was like oh, I remember these You know, but but yeah such such a fun song
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is it for our Madonna top five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, one of the one of my favorite reasons for doing this is to just go back and listen to stuff that if not for a project, I may have not listened to this music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an exact same way again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What what what what what a what a fun what a fun project for for the for 50 for 50 the Madonna one was so I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we'll be back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We decided we decided on biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were going biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not not not not a whole lot of music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to listen to the the posture of the stuff necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Born again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is probably worth checking out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just remember like listening to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did stuff where he's with all these artists who I don't even know for around when he was recording news.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a couple of songs on there that are like just him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, you know, are worth checking out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm not a fan of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just hoping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not give that away yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've since just used to remind me of something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster Rimes was on somebody's podcast and told us there's been on a lot of podcasts recently because he has a new album, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it all with Dilla?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's all beats from Dilla.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Dilla's mom gave all of gave a bunch of his beats to him or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he told the story where he had Biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he he he biggie was supposed to do a verse and it was like biggie noss and meth or something like that they were all going to be on this song together on a bus to track and i guess this was near the end of biggie's life when he was quite a bit bigger and uh... the elevator broke in the studio
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[SPEAKER_00]: So big was like, not climbing up these stairs like I'm out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so math and naz were they had already, you know, they were like, well, big is not doing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then busted just hang, let's say I got this idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we can't record this thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess Biggie then did eventually record his verse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't put the song together in the same way, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget there's some collaboration or some other other album that he put Biggie's verse on that he had to remove some lyrics from because there would some beef with pop in it and so he's like, no, we can't put that one out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so but yeah, it's one of those Instagram clips that are going around like those are some of the best Instagram clips are when these dudes are talking about hip-hop songs from forever ago and who knows how true they are or not, but they're still all great fun stories so right yeah, all right, that is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be back next week talking biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm double GC when we see you piece out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is our top five on Madonna.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you heard our 50 for 50 episode on Madonna, I mentioned that my top five leans heavy to the earlier part of our career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I have a song from her post 1990 on my top five just as a little clue there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm in the same boat as you, my the latest song on my list is 1990.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we do that, I want to drop a little rock with it or stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she has so much music and a lot of the music, I think, age is very well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I'm not sure what's on my list aged poorly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just interested in what you think about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I know I have my thoughts, but for the first song, I tease this one like a virgin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's fine rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't dislike it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not a song that I seek out to listen to very often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm stopping, but it smells to be because of the trauma that it created for the young me that I mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I did not have that trauma.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what about 2000s music?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so like mid to me, I mean, it's not a bad song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll rock with it again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just in the big, like dictionary of Madonna songs is kind of in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like the beat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the beat is very catchy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of reminds me a little bit of like video games, but the song and of it itself, I don't think is a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do enjoy the beat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do remember her performing it on the Grammys with Lulem Bowow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen a little bow wow of late?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got to be like 40 now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a big bow wower, thicker bow wower, whatever you want to call him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, is he scroll bow wower, is he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's like heavy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last photo I saw of him, he looked heavy, but it could be some people messing with, you know, they like to create memes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not gonna say that that was 100% sourced information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was literally like a scrolling Twitter post that I saw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also, so there was not to go off on like a bow-out tangent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a TV pilot that he did where Kim feels plays his mom and Joey Lawrence plays his agent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, this is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kimfields.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joey Lawrence more 80s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 80s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's early 90s, which is clearly like, when did Bowel come out late 90.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2001.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Mike was like 2002.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four minutes rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean Madonna and Justin should have done a whole album together in my opinion Who's that girl?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's cute rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very memorable It's like when when I when I hear it I go oh I haven't heard this song in a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: La Isla Bonita.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the song that I'm going to stop with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird because La Isla Bonita and who's that girl are virtually the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're very similar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: La Isla Bonita is kind of goofy though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I stopped with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's sort of the same thing with who's that girl I go where I go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't heard this in a long time So it's kind of a treat, but it's not something that I would then immediately go listen to again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right here's one Just to find my love You I'll probably stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't go listening to that very often
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty haunting song when you listen, it's like the beat and then Jay-Z did justify my thug.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just find my thug which is terrible, but shout out to Lenny Crabbit to produce that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a very time and place thing when I hear that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such like a 1990 thing, like a Madonna song produced by Lenny Crabbit's
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[SPEAKER_01]: that is based off of a public enemy sample.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, die another day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that song a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like the movie, which he's in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen the movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big James Bond guy, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're rebooting James Bond and one of the directors, the guy who does, uh, Dune, he's going to be directing the, the reboose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's playing James Bond?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like five young-ish actors that are kind of in the running and they haven't decided yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me Idrus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, good luck with Michael B. Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you, but they're never they will never I can see Michael B. Jordan is James Bond Michael B. Jordan is doing Tom's Crown Fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, he is directing and starring in Tom's Crown of Fair for a chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hit or miss with Dyna other day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just more for kicks than anything else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't cry for me, Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not fucking with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what that song is, I just, I probably would have had to just say don't cry and then you would have known what the song was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, I feel like it was like a meme before we knew what memes were or before we described them as memes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's an interesting one that I hadn't heard in a very long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This used to be my playground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that song weirdly came up for me recently too and I'm not sure what the context was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop with it, it's just kind of boring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very boring song for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when I listened to it again, I was like, I remember the video because it was around the league of their own time for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it's because the video had parts of the movie that made it okay, but when I just listened to the audio, I was like, hmm, this isn't that good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a boring song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what about Ray of Light, the sort of last one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am not crazy about this, oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's like lower mid for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm going to stop with that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we talked about this a little bit with that album, but a lot of people who were not into Madonna liked that album because of her maturity, let's say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, it's when she stopped becoming cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was with that album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't really maturity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just, you know, her music
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she became a mom and she made an album about sort of like spiritual contentment and peace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's nothing immature about the music that she made before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was more nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was more or less mature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just more conventional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Less sexualized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to our top five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to go first?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want me to go first?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you go first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm listening to these songs, man, these first two albums, just the very beginning of the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I know what this is, and it takes me back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Borderline number five for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Simple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pop song, very singable, very memorable chorus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of her being young and kind of even before she becomes that boss lady that we talked about in the other episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like like pre-a little bit and it's just the listening of that again brought me back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean borderline was her first top 10 record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what's number five for you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number five for me is Vogue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Vogue is on my list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just, uh, you know, it's a great song, regardless of, like, the historical context of it, Midland America had no idea what Vogue was until this song came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Peek of her, peak of her performance, is that when she was most famous, you think, like, where?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, I think so too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but classic record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's actually number two for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just up there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number four for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is more of a cute one again because of the MTV generation and because of Eddie Murphy raw material girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, does Eddie talking about material girl and raw?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not maybe not in raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think he does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, is it during the Umpufu skit?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a material maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always think of the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I always think of Eddie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What have you done for me, Eddie?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's when he's talking about Johnny Carson being on the cover of the inquire because he lost half his money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, a material girl in a material world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you, you're not getting a money if you, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, he said it, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that, but that is very MTV for me, like you talked about the video and in our 50 for 50 episode, but like, if I'm thinking of like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: songs that I saw on MTV before I would have really heard them on the radio like that fits in so the visual took over before the audio from the audio did I get that yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a memory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I didn't even have MTV and the video is so memorable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's number four?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got some.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number four is actually your number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I number four was borderline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of those like sneaky bit on the songs where it's like you just kind of take it for granted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But every time it comes on, I'm just like, oh, I love this song so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did a version of that song with the roots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm and slow it way down and it's so good and actually reveals like what a good singer she is Which she will she would rarely get credit for yeah for her voice yeah But I think this song and my number three song are really like testament to like her voice
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will say that my number three is I kind of think of I kind of put this in the same category as material girl they're from the same album and again, it's that video thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm actually going to I'll combine this with material go because dress you by I think of an exact the same way and instead I'm going to pivot a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna add human nature here as number three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I relish into that song, I was like, I forgot how good this song was, how catchy this song was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I lied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think human nature's like what 90, 94, 94.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be the latest song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I put together my top five, I had meant to combine dress you up in material world together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so human nature slides into number three for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean human nature is a Michael Jackson song to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when she put out her version I was like, come on man, like, can't say man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then listening back very different songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this song is the song is really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, my number three is poppin on preach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and not even for like the message of it, um, which is still very unclear whether like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that my baby that she's going to keep is an actual baby or her boyfriend, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I think it was left ambiguous on purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I always thought it was a child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always thought that like when I listened to it, I just assumed it was always about a baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the video gives it the context that it's about a baby, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I think the lyrics were deliberately,
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[SPEAKER_01]: not on the money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could take it a couple of different ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But going back to what I was saying earlier about Madonna's voice, I think like this is one of her most powerful vocal performances and she's like belting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not something that she did very often.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just a tough song
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, propulsive and, you know, it's just like a great pop song and plus this album is at the upper tier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kelly Osborne just floated past my head because I forgot that she did a remake of Papa don't okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I said my I said Vogue was too for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what is number two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number two is actually not a super popular Madonna song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's keep it together, which is on the album like a prayer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Prince plays guitar on that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, how many times did they collaborate?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's twice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, or maybe three, like, it's all on that one album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but I think he's on three different songs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did, like, love song together, and then he plays guitar on keep it together and like a prayer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but keep it together is like to me, the funkiest McDonald's song, it's got a really like touching lyric about families and how, you know, getting along despite your differences and, you know, keeping your bonds together, um, I remember that the, was it true to there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might not have been true to there, I definitely remember where I was when I watched
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[SPEAKER_01]: The end of, it was like the end of 1994 and it was the first time that I was like in a room together at like somebody's apartment with like a handful of other queer people and like it just felt like such a like a cool like bonding moment I was 18 like it just you know like I remember that very clearly and I want to say
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was the last song of, I don't remember, is that show where the girl we show?
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those Madonna, like, long-horn video movies, keep it together was like the last one, and then she brings like the whole tour crew out on stage and it's like a very touching thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that sounds always like had a special place in my heart because it's very like innocent and pure and, you know, about family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, my number one, and I will fully admit that this is a bias pick because of desperately seeking Susan, but there's a moment in this movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now this is like maybe one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the character
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that Madonna is playing is not herself, but she dresses very much like very much like Madonna right she looks like Madonna She is not Madonna, but she is in a club.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She put she's by the jukebox, I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: And her own song comes on and she grooves to her own song that's one of the coolest things I've ever seen and like just a flex of all flexes into the groove is that a budget thing or like most of the reasoning behind that I have no idea but whatever it was it was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would be like, you know, on the set of the whiz, even, you know, instead of he's on down the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You play don't stop to get enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, MJ doesn't MJ song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, I was like, whoa, I forgot that this had happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was so cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, I love that song anyways, but it probably did bump up after watching a desperately seeking Susan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, what's your number one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number one is your number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Into the group was my number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I talk a lot about songs that take me back to like a specific place in time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can just remember Summer of 1985 being in Brooklyn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that song, and I wonder if I take you home by Lisa Lisa, popular at around the same time, and every card driving by was playing one of those two songs to awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like it's a definition of summer for me,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just dancing and like allowing yourself to like let go like so much freedom and fun is in that song Could we go back to those times I wish I wish you know, I was Walking around a couple days ago and like stumbled on like a block party and I was like oh, I remember these You know, but but yeah such such a fun song
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is it for our Madonna top five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, one of the one of my favorite reasons for doing this is to just go back and listen to stuff that if not for a project, I may have not listened to this music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an exact same way again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What what what what what a what a fun what a fun project for for the for 50 for 50 the Madonna one was so I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we'll be back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We decided we decided on biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were going biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not not not not a whole lot of music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to listen to the the posture of the stuff necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Born again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is probably worth checking out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just remember like listening to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did stuff where he's with all these artists who I don't even know for around when he was recording news.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a couple of songs on there that are like just him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, you know, are worth checking out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm not a fan of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just hoping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not give that away yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've since just used to remind me of something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster Rimes was on somebody's podcast and told us there's been on a lot of podcasts recently because he has a new album, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it all with Dilla?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's all beats from Dilla.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Dilla's mom gave all of gave a bunch of his beats to him or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he told the story where he had Biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he he he biggie was supposed to do a verse and it was like biggie noss and meth or something like that they were all going to be on this song together on a bus to track and i guess this was near the end of biggie's life when he was quite a bit bigger and uh... the elevator broke in the studio
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[SPEAKER_00]: So big was like, not climbing up these stairs like I'm out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so math and naz were they had already, you know, they were like, well, big is not doing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then busted just hang, let's say I got this idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we can't record this thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess Biggie then did eventually record his verse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't put the song together in the same way, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget there's some collaboration or some other other album that he put Biggie's verse on that he had to remove some lyrics from because there would some beef with pop in it and so he's like, no, we can't put that one out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so but yeah, it's one of those Instagram clips that are going around like those are some of the best Instagram clips are when these dudes are talking about hip-hop songs from forever ago and who knows how true they are or not, but they're still all great fun stories so right yeah, all right, that is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be back next week talking biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm double GC when we see you piece out.