Man of the Woods & the Justin Timberlake Story: A Full Career Deep Dive

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are back on 50 for 50.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are talking a lot of just in Timberlake today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike, we're going back all the way eight years ago, 2018.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which boy, you know, when you think about the 2010s, and especially the later 2010s, you kind of think about, no, it wasn't that long ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But everything pre-pandemic when you think about it, it seems like Eons ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like Anne's, I mean, the pandemic itself, I mean, we're closing in on seven years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for even that two have been seven years ago and it still feels so like literally, you know, I had people over yesterday and one of the people that was supposed to come had to back out because they were exposed to COVID.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, like, I had like a little bit of a flashback, which is kind of dumb because I have had COVID in the last 18 months myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, geez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, you know, it is very much still a thing, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: would be get for the beginning of that to have been, you know, January 2020, which is now seven and a half years ago going on eight years ago is kind of insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like a long time ago and then just yesterday kind of at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird how time works like that and how our memories work and how our brains work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't know if that's like a getting older thing or if it's a technology thing or maybe a combination, but yeah, it does, it is kind of strange how that works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess when we were like 10 years old, we never went to somebody in our family and was like, remember when that was five?

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[SPEAKER_00]: half of my life ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would suggest just to anybody listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I think we probably have a very, um, vaccine positive listener ship, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably still a good idea to get that COVID.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, get your bump up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, every October, I get my booster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I mean, I'm very fortunate that in whatever the six and a half years, since you begin to COVID, I've only gotten a twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because I know people who've gotten it like five, six, seven times tough, um, and, you know, living in New York City like people are kind of packed on top of one another hard to get the space, you know, back then it was super difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, you know, yeah, I mean, get your get all get your flu shot, get your Kobe shot, if you're orange, go get your shingle shot, that's not what I need to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that about a month ago and I mean, I've also had shingles before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't, you know, the vaccine is going to mess you up, but I also don't recommend getting shingles itself because it was not pleasant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's another one is it, uh, then whatever that other one is, I want to space them out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have to get them at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm I'm I'm definitely needing to to jump on that train.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the reason why we're talking about this specific Justin Timberlick album, which is man of the woods is because

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just fit from a year's perspective when we were putting our list together because we definitely wanted to talk about Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And 2018 was a spot for us to fill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this album, you know, we'll get into it as a little bit of like, I don't know if it's a crossroads album or like a comeback from

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just this insane celebrity run that he had as a pop star as a TV star as a movie star, you know, to a decent level too, you know, I mean, more than most musicians that make movies, I mean, you know, he had a handful of successful movies, so I am not the biggest fan of this album, but I find the album very interesting just because it's a look at a

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[SPEAKER_00]: celebrity pop star who's kind of coming down from insane fandom and trying to establish himself still as an artist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's an interesting album to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's look at 20 the year in music like we'd like to do at the beginning of every show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only reason I put this is because I love this dude's name and he won American Idol, but Philip Phillips, January 19, released an album is first and four years called collateral.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought you were going to say he won American Idol in 2018.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say like that feels wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like maybe eight years before maybe he has something like that six years before I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also in January of 2018, Camilla Cabello's debut solo album made her the youngest artist at the top, the Billboard 200 with a debut set her later to be boyfriend Sean Mendez did it in 2015.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can tell I know who these people are, but I don't really know songs by

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know like Sean Mendez has that one song stitches that I really like that that is like the only Sean Mendez song that I don't I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did, um, there was a movie that came out that I took the crystal and I took the kids to see where I think he did the voice of may it was either a song or the voice of whatever the wasn't a cartoon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what the movie was, but I thought maybe there was going to be more of Sean Mendez and movies, but I don't think there has been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, 60th annual Grammy Awards on January 28th hosted by James Corden took place in MSG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first time since 2003 that the show took place in New York City, Bruno Mars took home the most awards with six, including Allen the year for 24k magic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, February 2nd, the album that we're talking about just in Timberlake releases his first album in five years, men of the woods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two days later, pink performs the star-spangled banner and just in Timberlake performs that half time at the Super Bowl in Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's fast forward to April.

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[SPEAKER_00]: April 15th, Cardi B's debut album Invasion of Privacy debuted atop the Billboard 200 setting multiple streaming records among female acts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your relationship with Cardi B?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There really isn't one, I don't, I think she's an interesting personality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like her music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got that one that I like it like that song with that bunny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that song, but I like to hear original song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, but I don't, I mean, yeah, I don't, Cardi B does not occupy a particularly flattering space in my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have an opinion of her, but it's probably because I I know some of her stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's kind of entertaining when she's in public with the social yeah her voice and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's she's a personality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not a musician.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me Rhapsody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: J. Cole released KOD, which debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, as well as breaking the first day streaming record on Spotify, which was later broken by Postman's Beer Bonds in Bentley's and Drake Scorpion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I like the idea of J. Cole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish he was more interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish his records were more interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I qualify that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like I feel like he got a lot of, he got a lot of daps for kind of being the anti-draken sense, but I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what was the, was the mixed tape Friday night lights or something?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Friday night lights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only jakele album that I like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this would have been April 20th, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like there was a, oh, like you heard like guys like a Q tip and stuff like say, oh, he's going to be one of the next guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I feel, I mean, I feel like he's had a nice career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's had a great career, but he's definitely on some like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hate to make this comparison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to make the comparison to somebody and I'm going to stop short.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a very talented MC technically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His records are just like boring his hell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of what I gather as well as like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like a very serviceable rapper, but he doesn't make music that really sets people on fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the next one is I think we're fast forwarding all the way to June here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: June 2nd, BTS scores a number one album on the Billboard 200 with Love Yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a character here, and then tear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, making at the highest ranking Asian album on the chart in the first foreign language

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[SPEAKER_00]: June 15th, Christina Aguilara released her first album in six years liberation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember the album?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Barely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can picture the cover in my head and they were like maybe two songs I've done I liked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I mean, we're talking about Jay Cole, who's like a really, really good rapper that makes boring records.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Christina Aguilar is a very, very good singer who makes boring records.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I remember this happening, June 18th, rapper, I don't exactly know the pronunciation, but three X's 10 Tassillon is murdered in Florida.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they caught that shit on camera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy crazy stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember him because,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, my kids didn't really think he was a good rapper, but he was like, famous in their world for just being kind of crazy and just he was able to get a lot of, I don't know if he was using social media or whatever, but he just was like really, really popular in that world back in this super popular and he was super problematic and I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I did

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nuri that that era of hip hop is just very like strange to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still strange to me now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it hasn't gotten any less strange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: August 16th, Queen of Seoul, Rita Franklin, died at her home in Detroit, Michigan at the age of 76.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Official calls of death was pancreatic cancer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you ever see the Jennifer Hudson movie where she starred as Aritha?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a little piece of it, I didn't finish it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The movie is...

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[SPEAKER_00]: average, I would say, obviously listening to Jennifer do a read the songs is pretty solid, like she you could tell there's an inspiration there and a super fandom, but the most the more interesting thing was that I think they're I forget the book that is out that that people consider kind of like the truest telling of a read this life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually have that book, I don't know where it is, but it's by David Ritz who is a great writer, wrote the Marvin Gaye biography, wrote the Ray Charles biography, wrote many crabbitses biography, like he's a very talented, very credible writer who had the good fortune of meeting on a couple of occasions, super invested in music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the story behind that is that he wrote

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[SPEAKER_01]: David Ritz wrote with her and then he disavowed and then he wrote his own book which is quite frankly a much better book but contains a lot of stuff that Aritha was not uncomfortable discussing in like a book form and Aritha kind of trashed it even though you know by all accounts everything he put in his book was like the real deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: September 7th, Lenny Kravitz released his first album in four years, raise vibration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's that album?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I mean, all the Lenny's albums are, there are good songs, and there are bad songs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, you know, uh, they're usually worth it for the five or six good songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The same day, rapper Mack Miller died at his home at the age of 26.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Officials of death was a drug overdose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 26 years old, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's insane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That brother had the world ahead of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was so tech like it took me a minute to get in the Mack Miller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first couple of records I heard I was like, this dude's a clown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not messing with this dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But swimming like the album that came out right before he passed away, like that album is dope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: BTS again on the eighths at Hemorrhate scored their second no more an album with love yourself character answer, making them the only Asian act to do so on the 14th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carrie Underwood released cry pretty which broke multiple records she began the first female country artist ever to ever to top the billboard 100.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cry pretty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't listen to the album so I don't really know what that means.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not a Carrie Underwood fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I remember correctly, she had some kind of accident that like disfigured her face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, obviously had corrective surgery to like, but I think the title of that album was derived from the injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she got cut with something or like, sell on something or like, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The same day, Tony Bennett released his first collaborative album four years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love is here to stay with Diane of Crawl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, and on the 19th, uh, for their first and only collaboration, Columbia records released a single between two deceased rappers, Lil Peep, and three X tentacion is it just XX, X tentacion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe, okay, falling down, and so they, I don't know where they taking advantage of the passing or worth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, they're this, that's what record companies do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm sure it was, I mean, you know, cautionary tale for, you know, people out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you're worth more dead to these companies than you are alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 24th Cardi B again extends her record for having the most number once for female rapper, 123 so far with the collaboration girls like you with Maroon 5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And on November 16th,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mariah Carey released her first album in four years, caution, caution, mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about Justin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Justin Timberlake, born Justin Randall Timberlake, January 31, 1981 in Memphis, Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly, one of his grandfather's had jammed with Elvis Presley and gave Justin his first guitar lessons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He appeared on star search at the age of 11 performing country songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember it, but I've seen like the footage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he was a they tried to I guess his first publicity was as a country singer as a little kid that would obviously not be his strength when he actually became a pop star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His path to fame ran right through Disney Britney Spears, Christina, J.C.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and just in all landed a spot on the all new Mickey Mouse club in 1993 and Ryan Gosling right and uh my home girl Felicity uh wasn't she on that too?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember the Ryan Gosling because

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't they sing like jodices like freaking you or something there's so many of them maybe it might be cry for you cry for you Yeah, I don't think freaking you would have made it to the Mickey Mouse club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see how they were dressed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know tank tops and yeah, yeah, that's a great video if you go find it It's pretty it's pretty amazing

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then two years later, 1995, he was recruited into a new boy band being assembled in Orlando, in sync with J.C. Chris Kirkpatrick, Joey Fatone and Lance Bass indeed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 1998, they put out their self-titled debut and in 2000, no strings attached, which sold 2.4 million copies in its first week, a record at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and turned them into one of the best selling boy bands in history moving north of 70 million records worldwide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 2002 and sync goes on hiatus Justin makes the leap to a solo career and we are off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're not going to really talk about the in sync stuff that much, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when did you, like, was EnSync on your radar, like, right when they debuted, kind of pretty much, I mean, I remember, like, clocking at record pretty early, hearing, I want you back on the radio and being like, who would these dudes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and obviously, like, working in a record store at the time, even though, like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of the funny things is that the store that I was working at at the time was sort of like in the deep rocks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So 95% black and Latino people, but you know, they were on team instinct from jump.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were selling tons and tons of instinct records.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were again, we were on them pretty early on in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the time celebrity came out, I remember in, you know, this podcast is it's roots where we're kind of set at the in the opinions days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember when celebrity came out because everyone on their mama was trying to get that first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give that first review.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I might have just, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it came out in 2001.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wasn't on opinions yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was what it was with a lot of albums.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the Christina Aguilera double album back to basics?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, actually was stripped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was stripped or stripped was the one where it was all about getting in that, you know, getting, you know, you'd push your review and then you'd go into Google search and see if you did the right search whose review was like the highest in the search.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just trying to game the system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, how many X's can we put it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christine is named to see if we could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get the Google search to pop us up higher like it is back in the day, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Little little baby SEO.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay

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[SPEAKER_00]: So before we dig into the discography, just wanted to dig through some of like the big moments of his celebrity niss, uh, obviously the Britney Spears relationship and then the breakup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, they were like the it couple for a few years there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw them everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's that very famous photo of them both dressed in denim probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know MTV movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the MTV awards?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I, who styled those people?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Brittany looks fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, yeah, I, I, I, I'm sure he regrets that look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: May or maybe he just owns these again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It did it did it's job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It got us photographed and put on every possible website.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it was a it was a relationship that kind of you know you had the two of the most famous pop stars going in a relationship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So of course

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[SPEAKER_00]: the at the height of like almost like celebrity craziness as well at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know that their careers and their sort of celebrity livelihood kind of took off in a couple different directions though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know Justin has had a few hard times of late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was that video of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he got a DUI or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was, you know, unfortunately for people, you can't, you know, you can't even make mistakes without it being all over the news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brittany has obviously had some interesting times, you know, she's been, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess she's been freed in a sense and so you see her on Instagram that's all I get to see is her on Instagram and you know lots of kind of I don't want to call it crazy because that's probably insensitive but very high energy stuff from her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Brittany is very clearly mentally ill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I told the line between wanting to be like sympathetic to her and also being like, yo, who's looking after this person because I, you know, like, it either definitely feels like there's some like, and Nicole Smith stuff going on, um, which is unfortunate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I mean, I certainly hope that, you know, she figures her stuff out and, you know, lose a long full, full life, you know, child started them kind of messes a lot of people up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, more people than not, you know, in the fact that she's even made it into like her mid 40s, I think, says a lot, but, you know, yeah, I hope that she, you know, I hope that she's a piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this break up made just in a little bit of a disrecord artist over his career where few songs about Brittany in his catalog, Crimea River was the the first one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in 2023, Brittany wrote her memoir and she alleged.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that or she's flat out said that Justin Timberlick pressured her into an abortion in 2000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she, you know, Justin because of these disc records, I think the public had largely put the onus on Brittany for the breakup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there was alleged infidelity in the relationship from the Brittany side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I think, you know, there was a, it was publicly harsher on Brittany from what I remember from that time frame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the, the, the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The way that the story rolled out at the time was that Brittany cheated on Justin and I mean, even if Brittany did get pregnant and had an abortion, she could have still cheated on Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, it's also like how much do we trust that Brittany Spears is telling the truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this case, also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it's 2000 Britney Spears would have been like 19 years old, there's no way that a 19-year-old pop star is going to have a child.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, not only would even have just been like, yo, let's have the baby, all of her managers, her parents, like, everybody would have been like, yo, you cannot do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to kind of throw that all on Justin, and, you know, I think over the last few years, Justin's become a very popular whipping boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which he's he's come out and apologize for a lot of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like hey get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a dude and because of the things I didn't said the women in these stories took quite a bit of backlash and I could have shielded them better from from those stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, but also like I, you know, anything Britney Spears says I'm going to take with a grain of salt because she ain't wrapped you tight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then I guess the other kind of infamous incident was the Janet Jackson, Super Bowl and said, and we covered this during our Jackson, Janet Jackson podcast, there's even a clip of the whole conversation on our YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will not rehash that here, but yeah, you know, Justin came out

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he acknowledged and apologized for not shielding Janet or Brittany from a lot of the blame game, I guess, as it was said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, Janet said to talk about it a lot too, and it seemed like she she just had the longer career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She had the more successful career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She could take the hit and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, I don't know, we talked about it, but the rehashing of it is like, of course, like she should have been at fault here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was her decision, her idea her city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so then now I don't know if this is a hot take or not, but I find just in to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: an even more talented kind of comedic SNL style performer than even a singer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think that is really his lane, but he chose correctly in where to make his money and where to get his career going obviously the instinct thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't look that, look at that and go, no, I want to go do SNL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I find Justin to be one of the best celebrity performers on SNL maybe, maybe ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he is, and he came up on the Mickey Mouse Club, which is essentially a variety show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to sing and act and do skits and sketches and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like a training ground for something like SNL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is, you know, he's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's incredibly charming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he can make fun of himself, like he can be dorky, he can be goofy, like all of that stuff, like if his popularity had come in like the 70s or 80s, he would totally have like a variety show in to be mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, uh, let's see, how long ago was Dick in a box?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man, that was 2010, maybe 2011?

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's so crazy that it was that long ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my ringtone for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was like very early social media too and you did that video pop around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he married.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's married to Jessica Beale 2009.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, wow, even for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: actually married Jessica Bale in 2012, their first son, Silas born in 2015, and Silas is actually a direct inspiration to the album that we're going to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly, Silas in Latin means

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, that's what the, this album is called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And second son, Finius was born in 2020.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, are you yourself, man, of the woods?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been camping a couple of times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you like it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I mean, I didn't, you know, as a kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up in a city, so to have that open air and see stars and like all that stuff, that stuff that I didn't really experience, probably until I was in my 30s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I like it, I like both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if I had unlimited resources, I would probably kind of travel back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's something to be said for camping and being outdoors and nature and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need a shower and a bathroom and like a cabin and I'm good, see, I got to go in a tent and I got to lay down and try and fall asleep on some some branches and and leaves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not having a great time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can mess with the tent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: although at 50 with chronic pain, I'm not so sure that I can mess with the tent, but I've slept in tents before that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where I drug a line is like, I am not pooping in a hole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you better find me a toilet deck and flush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can go, like, I can go with like an outdoor shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can go a couple of days without a shower that's fine, but you are going to give me restaurant facilities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, we are not doing the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was speaking to somebody,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a couple maybe like a month and a half ago we're talking about camping and they're like yeah you know there's you know we can make this trip happen but there's no bathroom and I was like well then we're not making the trip happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes yes I agree with you I'm there with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Call me bougie but you're the bougie Betty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I guess so I don't poop in holes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You would never do

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hell no, absolutely not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then he also recently has talked about or revealed his Lyme disease diagnosis and he has described it as relentlessly debilitating both mentally and physically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that it is affected him on tour as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's made that public.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I can't even imagine trying to try to do all that stuff and have those effects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: little bit trivia about about our guy, JT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, do you get offended when people call him JT considering that there's already a JT?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we give him a different nickname?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't call him Timbo because there's already a Timbo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's already a Timbo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin Timberlake is a unique enough name that you don't need to initialize it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just call him

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin Timberley, I mean, J.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is James Taylor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the bottom line, but you know, generally speaking, I consider age and ethnic demographics and I can switch between J.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the person will know who I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, yeah, the people, if, you know, maybe my, my pops would be like talking about James Taylor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But other than that, probably most people would say, okay, just your time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just isn't too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's the youngest ever inductee into the Memphis Music Hall of Fame in 2015.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... song writer's hallfame contemporary icon award twenty nineteen uh... and and we mentioned he the s and l he's part of the five timers clabs i'm a squad i think he gets like a jacket or something right yeah there there's a bunch of skits about it i think there's like a smoking yeah i don't know what it's like it's like it's time hanks like the kind of the o g of it like who's the person who's hosting it's probably like steve martin who's hosting yeah i think you're right because he's been around the longest since

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's talk about these albums, justified, November 2002.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a jump back and cut you off quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A quick second, Alec Baldwin is actually hosted S&L more than anybody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what that makes sense?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think some people feel like he's just kind of part of the cast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cast, again, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, justified 2022.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you and I, this is the year that we met, I believe, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This dude is on the come up that he's clearly the most marketable out of the in sync crew from a solo perspective though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've had conversation about whether or not J.C. should have been a bigger star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we both think he should have been a bigger star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should have, um, and, you know, for maybe you couldn't have two and think guys going solo at the same time and being successful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the public was just always going to choose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were some turns in that career that probably could have been avoided for, for J.C. A great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so 2022 November justified, uh, lots of net tunes and timble and we'll talk about those guys as we discuss his discography, Brian McNight is around at this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a Brian McNight and Justin Timberlake segment on the old Wayne Brady show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's hilarious about this segment is they're definitely together and I am to gather so much to the point of where I wonder if like was Brian like helping him in his early in his career or whatever it was and I know Brian does produce a song on justified but I also produce this song on celebrity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right on celebrity as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just remember watching this thing and it's Justin you know dudes 21 years old

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's Wayne Brady show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Justin is a white dude who has his cultural aspirations are more in the hip hop and R&B lane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was very diplomatic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, he's trying to

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[SPEAKER_00]: speak a certain way with a certain rhythm to his voice and a certain slang and lingo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always thought that was funny because I was like trying a little hard, but I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're 21 and you're trying to find your lane, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Use a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave use at number two in a billboard 200, Scott Storch, by the way, and the underdogs also did work on the album, goes triple platinum 7 million worldwide, like I love you is the opening single other singles, Crimea River rock your body and senior Rita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: wins the Grammy for best pop vocal album and best male pop vocal performance nominated for album of the year and overall like a pretty cool debut and when I went back to listen to the album I'm sure I had this thought when it came out and we would later learn that this would be the case

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to remake the 2000 and 22 version of Michael Jackson's debut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Essentially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, that technically is debut, but he's sort of a, you know, I mean record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, off there's justified and off the wall are very, very.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, justified usher is 8701 and off the wall are essentially all the same album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or versions of the same album, I should say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a recipe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we would later learn is that some of the songs that landed on justified were songs that Michael Jackson had turned down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Jackson in the nose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could Michael have done like I love you on invincible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like those songs needed young energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Michael isn't as forties at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't as forties at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't have like this, you know, it didn't have the same swag that Justin had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the only other person that could have sang those songs would have been usher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there is something to be said about Justin kind of swaggerjack and usher a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, I mean, look, usher comes back with a ferociousness and tuteness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, usher sold more records.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was actually a really good competition for both of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The going back to justified, and whether or not Mike, I don't imagine Michael's on a record with the clips, for instance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so it is a successful debut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is very young sounding for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, uh, I still think that the, the Colin Colin response with the crowd and send you read is all hell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it's, it's a, it's a really good debut album for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I went back recently and listen to just to fight again, and even the songs that I don't listen to regularly off that album like still on my brain and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, September 2006, second album, future sex love sounds produced mostly by Timbalen went to number one in the US UK Canada Australia sold over 10 million copies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, sexy back, my love, what goes around comes around, nominated for album in the earth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Grammys will circle back to this one and do our Grammys redux for this, uh, this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, this was the one where when I listened back, I was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is his best album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is maybe the peak of his powers as far as where he's really, he's coming out of the boy band stuff, successful first album, and he's like, okay, like, how hot am I?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, can I shoot this shot from half court?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just gonna go in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, because this album is really, really good, that it's not as, how would you say, formulated as justified, it's a little looser though very well produced and very well thought out and he's trying to portray maybe a little, like maybe there's like, if justified was just Michael Jackson off the wall, like this album is like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of Michael and there's like a little tweaking of prints and there's some other stuff in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think this is his, his opus I think actually think justified is a I can listen to justified more like straight through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of songs on future sex love sounds that are just bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the best songs on future sex love sounds are like

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you listen to sexy back in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You still rock with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny that there's a remix of that song with Missy, um, that actually like better than the original version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if I do play sexy back, I play that version instead of the original version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I was going to say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you remember this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That album and continuing by John Mayer came out on the same day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about that when we get to get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, read that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll pause until the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but that, like, you remembering that she's up the top of your head is, is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's an opinions tie in, I think, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but we'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, I think, sexy back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder, now, I think it did, it was excellent as a first single in creating an awareness about the album, but at the same time, it was a little bit of like a, I'm too cool for school kind of thing that I wonder if it had a little bit of backlash because of it, like, I don't know, I think some people may have been like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you sure you're really this cool like are you to in love with your own cool kind of thing to it and I wonder if this kind of started a little bit of the backlash I mean

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at the end of the day, what started the backlash was Janet's Titi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that there was like at the end of the day, Justin Timberlake is kind of a dorky dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he is, you know, he's he's hands traditionally handsome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And has kind of like a, you know, he is a very charismatic person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, if Justin Timberlake was just regular

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[SPEAKER_01]: he wouldn't like that swag wouldn't really translate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'd be like a charming dorky guy, but he wouldn't be like he wouldn't be clocking, I mean, the amount of tale that he was probably getting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, all these women who were just older than him too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember correctly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was he was dating Tatiana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll leave for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there was like some Cameron Diaz, some Melissa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Janet Janet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there was it just it was just it was putting in that work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, again, I think it's like your success and your money makes you 10% or 20% better looking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think he was, he was smelling his own fart and thinking that they smell like roses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, six plus years later, we have the double album, which they're released not on the at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there released a few months apart there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to figure out how long of what the weight was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to look like six months apart, the 2020 experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: March 2013, September 2013.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two part project.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where he was mostly focused on acting so it's kind of like a comeback to music kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Part one said an iTunes fast-to-selling album record and second the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Suit and tie would Jay-Z mirrors and then the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he won three Grammys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the set, the part two, I don't remember the same fanfare, but I think that's to be expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a part two as kind of like the beginning of the fall off a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still some stuff I like in part two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's some joints on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, this was a very interesting experiment as far as like trying to figure out, you know, this is a download time frame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not necessarily selling physical media as much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's trying to figure out, like, how can I just, you know, get the downloads going and sell on iTunes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, that first album being the iTunes record showed that there was an appetite for his music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People were waiting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think the biggest thing to come out of this is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't he do a tour with Jay, like after this album?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, I see, I've completely forgotten about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it was like a stadium thing, like they specifically wanted to do like a stadium tour off of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And was it Magna Carta Holy Grail or was that the supporting album for Jay Z?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, because which eye is him and Jay Z?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it lead seal off of the first album?

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is crazy because like 15 years before that you think like the first in sync album is out and hard not life is popping off for Jay and you're like who would think that 15 years later these two would be making a record and going on tour together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is kind of funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So man of the woods is out about five years later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk more about that in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then his last album as far as within last two years, March 15, 2024, everything I thought it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: debut at number four in the Billboard 200.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a song on here that I really, really like, which is called Selfish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes to number 19 on the Hot 100.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just don't remember this album making that big of a splash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Justin Timberlake has been a staff for 25 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody, everybody falls off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It happens to everyone, unless you die, everybody falls off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the way that music is consumed is changed, the way that, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: his fan base is maybe doing different things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, he kind of just went back to the world and made another record with Timbaland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's not a bad record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, there's a song on the album called Paradise with InSync that's a really, really pretty song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I'm getting to because he's got one trick left up his sleeve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think that's what's gonna happen next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's gonna be like an InSync reunion tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the more ambiguous residency, nobody close to Justin is going to listen to this unless somebody you know is close to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But get the new kids, put them on the tour with you because they bring in a slightly older crowd that is very loyal and very consistent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you would have every woman from 40 to 60 coming to your concert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you do like a, you could do like a vocal group all stars tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could do like new kids in St. New Edition, Drew Hill, Jodacy, Baxter, like do like some package tour, tourist and you would sell that shit out so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I might be out one of the few handful of dudes there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would totally go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, still a little bit of a deeper dive into man of the woods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So very strategically, this album came out two days before he headlined the Super Bowl halftime show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I remember correctly, there was a, did he do a purple rain or wind-dove's cry or something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a little prince trip because Prince had died a few months before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we mentioned about the inspiration for the title of the album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He described the sound as modern Americana with 808s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what your ears hear when you listen to Man of the Woods?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think he was trying to go for like, I understand what he was trying to go for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, he's trying to do a little bony bear, meets like R&B, which, you know, I think even like bony bear himself is doing now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't think it came off the way that Justin was hoping that it would come off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's a question, because

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beyonce came out with an album called Cowboy Carter and she leaned heavy into the country sound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost feel like Justin, he should have just leaned harder if he really really wanted to make that kind of album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there should be no crossover into the style of music that he was doing before and not that he had to reinvent himself because he could always come back, but it would

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one just sounds like a little bit of like a safer choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he didn't want to offend anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's like, try to play it, play it a little close together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my hot take is I don't think Cowboy Card is a country record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's country influenced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't, it's a Beyonce record with a country influenced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that there's a lot of people now who are like blurring the lines between

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all of these country people that are out and not have been influenced by hip hop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there's there's redneck ass black people hate in dudes making records over fucking like 8OH over hip hop of a trap drums and like collaborating with rappers, which is really weird, but you know, if you look at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... shibuzi if you look at uh... post malone uh... my reciris like all these people are kind of like be on say uh... all these people are kind of like jumping back and forth between like pop and aren't be in country and hip pop and it's you know just kind of learning lines between genres neals new album is a country in fluency album i've been listening to it i didn't know it came out it came out to weeks ago okay yeah okay so

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[SPEAKER_00]: The album is reunites Justin in the Neptune's, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They hadn't worked together in a little while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we're legally prohibited from working together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what was that story?

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[SPEAKER_01]: For real, there was that album, Clones, which had front and on it, and that album came out on RCA or Aristot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It came out on the same label as Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then there was a fallout between Farell and RCA, um, and as a result of that, Farell and Justin could not work together for a particular amount of energies, so it was just like some label B S. So, uh, Timeline is back, of course, and Danja, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this was a session across a bunch of studios in L.A. And the story is just in walked into the session.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is what Dan just says.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said that like feature sex love sounds was a very like wide open undirected session where they just kind of were creating things on the fly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he says this time, Justin comes in the studio and they're like, what's the vibe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, this is the vibe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's wearing a flannel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of D's is some jeans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a beard and a scully on that's the vibe of the album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what does that mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what a man of the woods looks like?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if he had like a um did he bring in an axe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like he's like this is my Paul Bunyan look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then when the work finally started, the first song written was the title track built around the name, like we mentioned, and that came from a Zain Low interview, and then Chris Stapleton is on this album, originally brought in as a co-writer, and then Justin was like, oh, like, just hop in there and take a verse, and he's like, huh, like what, and that's how say something was created.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like, looking now, Chris, able to encode three songs on the album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, morning light, the hard stuff and he plays guitar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think on one of the songs, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So both Jessica and Silas are on the album, Jessica does the spoken parts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they had her use the voice notes app on the iPhone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because they wanted her to sound like a ghost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that, I don't know what that ghost sounds like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I only, I've only heard Casper speak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, for a later reflected on the album's mistress mixed reception, calling it a complicated scenario, he said he loved the music, but in hindsight, would have approached all the other elements that go along with the music differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think he means?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, for all this watch that's just from anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The legos movie was so fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Justin and Chris Stapleton should have gone into studio together and just made an album with two buzz kind of what I was talking about right like lean in like you don't have to like you can always go back to Timberland and Ferrell and do that stuff lean into a different sound every artist has done it like you know what I mean Chris Stapleton is a soul singer right like Chris Stapleton's fucking

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, an R&B, more of an R&B singer than half these three quarters of these cats making R&B music now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just wears a cowboy hat and has beard and he's going to have a different idea into what you should chase on on the on the project.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I will say, and I don't have to spoil this none of these songs on the album are in my top five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, definitely not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there any standout tracks to you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are the songs that if you were like, I'm going to listen to man of the woods here are the songs that I'm going to dig back through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, honestly, there's two songs on this album that I still listen to today, morning light, which is a duo with Alicia Keys, which is a really pretty song, and breeze off the pond, which is like, it's a Neptune song, which is like a well-written Neptune song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like lazy or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the two songs from this album that I, you know, that still get play on a somewhat regular basis in my library.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like this guy wanted to do an album where he could just say the F-word all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he could have made like a regular R&B album and said the effort all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Brown does it, but if you could listen back through his songs, like he will curse sparingly, yeah, but he says the effort on multiple songs as if it was like the lyric, the perfect lyric for this song and I'm just like, I guess maybe that's what you were feeling at that time, but yeah, I mean, you know, Justin, I

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin's not the world's greatest songwriter and I really feel like he, you know, over the years he probably should have stepped up his game in that arena and he hasn't and that's been a little bit disappointing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, I think if you're looking for like death, there really isn't any there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what you end up with is something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Filthy's the late single, this is a bad choice for the single.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to do sexy back part two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was even thinking like some of that stuff from the Timbo album, like give it to me or would it like just think kind of like that's where his mind was at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Midnight summer jam, Neptune's kind of funk soul jam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That song's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I would agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Say something is interesting, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was, you know, knock it out of the park, but it was different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I liked the style of the song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, other than that, like there's not a ton that I found to be even really memorable when I went through it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I remember when this album came out, I was like, okay, I'm a listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that I'm going to listen to it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to see what I think the second time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because at the first time, I was like, oh, gosh, it's not that good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the second time, I was like, okay, yeah, my first, my first thought was correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was albums, it's just not that good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I shelved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then so when I came back to it, I'd kind of the same thing again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, OK, listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know when my previous thoughts were, no, no, I'm going to listen to it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to see what stands out as kind of memorable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was that nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there wasn't much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it received pretty mixed reviews across the board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, some really bad reviews by the way, but I think some of this was also just like, you know, there was expectations of, you know, like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: fantastic album and he probably under delivered to those expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, you know, I don't really blame him because his life is much different in 2018 than it was in 2006 and 2013.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The I guess the pressure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that you would have when you're an artist at his level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even imagine like, you're like, oh my gosh, it's been six years, like what do I get it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, how can I redo feature sex love cells?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or how can I redo the 2020 experience and recreate kind of like the marketing master piece as well that those two albums are?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a different time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, in the reality is, you know what, like, don't chase that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you got your success, you got your money,

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[SPEAKER_01]: if you're a musician, like, you know, follow your muse, make an artistic record, which I guess he tried to do, it just didn't like come off the way that he wanted it to come off, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I guess Kudos to him for doing something a little bit different, I guess, you know, the intent was admirable, just the execution wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a few more pieces of trivia here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he voiced King Arthur and Shrek the third.

01:00:00.471 --> 01:00:09.854
[SPEAKER_00]: And brand, and he was branch in trolls and he had can't stop the feeling from the role soundtrack, which earned him an in Academy Award nomination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that that's all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun song for kids movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to the tears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what albums would you have in the muscle listen tier for Justin Timberlake listeners?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I would probably put the first two in here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, if you wanted to put the part one of the 2020 experience, I would be okay with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Part two of the 2020 experience is definitely lesser than.

01:00:47.961 --> 01:00:55.885
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but how would you, where would you put man of the woods and everything I thought I was in the mid or for the four stands only category?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, man, if the woods is for stands only, I think everything else can fall into the mid category.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about your no skip trading?

01:01:06.298 --> 01:01:07.440
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was what I had for five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, now what I wanted to do in, you know, we sometimes we do this idea of like who would we rather see the produce like a full album of their work jam and looser or baby face.

01:01:22.792 --> 01:01:25.833
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, I wanted to do a feral versus Timbalon.

01:01:25.913 --> 01:01:30.174
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this one is actually a lot easier than I remember than I realized when I put this together.

01:01:30.875 --> 01:01:40.298
[SPEAKER_00]: But if we look at the feral Neptune songs, so you got a lot of stuff from justified like I love you rock your body, send your read a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he's on nine of the 16 tracks in man of the wood.

01:01:45.722 --> 01:01:51.508
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not on future sex love sounds or 2020 experience or everything I thought I was right.

01:01:51.588 --> 01:01:55.551
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's really heavily on the first.

01:01:56.592 --> 01:02:03.037
[SPEAKER_00]: two albums plus there's in St. girlfriend that that he's I think that's him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:04.658 --> 01:02:08.842
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have Timbelin with four tracks on justified.

01:02:09.062 --> 01:02:11.143
[SPEAKER_00]: A Crimea river is the biggest hit there.

01:02:11.664 --> 01:02:12.785
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's all over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Future six love sound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's all over 2020 experience.

01:02:16.828 --> 01:02:18.829
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's got four tracks on man of the woods.

01:02:19.750 --> 01:02:25.434
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would say this is probably a clear win for for Timbelin as a better just and timber

01:02:26.675 --> 01:02:26.835
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think collaboration wise, it's kind of unfair just because Ferrell was not couldn't do it for a long time.

01:02:35.858 --> 01:02:38.560
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, Justin and Tim do have chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I think that that is, you know, they have the better chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to our

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got several wins, best pop vocal for justified, best male pop performance for Cremi River, best dance recording for sexy back, best dance recording also for love stone, I think she knows, which is from the same album, but for two different two different years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Best rap song collaboration, my love.

01:03:14.068 --> 01:03:41.957
[SPEAKER_00]: Also wins for what goes around comes around wins for best video for suit and tie R&B song push a lever girl rap song collaboration holy grail with jazzy in 2014, which is actually on jazzy's album right and Let's talk about the most interesting loss that I think he had So future sex love sounds gets nominated for album of the year Here are the other nominees

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[SPEAKER_00]: stadium, Arcadeum, Redout Chili Peppers, St.

01:03:47.583 --> 01:03:56.187
[SPEAKER_00]: Elsewhere, Narrals Barkley, Continuum, John Mayer, and taking the long way the Dixie chicks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:03:57.428 --> 01:03:58.888
[SPEAKER_00]: Who should have won in this year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: John Mayer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was my thought too.

01:04:03.451 --> 01:04:03.671
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:04:03.911 --> 01:04:06.192
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who had, who should have come in second?

01:04:08.253 --> 01:04:08.393
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

01:04:10.221 --> 01:04:12.322
[SPEAKER_01]: I might go in all as sparkly on that one.

01:04:12.982 --> 01:04:20.985
[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I, I have listened thoroughly to all five of those albums.

01:04:21.005 --> 01:04:23.666
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they've been in and out of rotation at various different times.

01:04:24.526 --> 01:04:26.066
[SPEAKER_01]: That Dixie chick's album is really good.

01:04:27.307 --> 01:04:28.967
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the Red Hat's really pervice album is okay.

01:04:29.868 --> 01:04:30.008
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh,

01:04:31.540 --> 01:04:40.665
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I, that knowledge, Berkeley album, if Cilo wasn't canceled, that might be compelled to, and, you know, I still listen to Cilo.

01:04:40.985 --> 01:04:45.087
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's such a good and crazy such an amazing song.

01:04:45.508 --> 01:04:51.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'd probably say that that album and Justin's album are equally good, but continuum is a 10 out of 10.

01:04:51.291 --> 01:04:51.471
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna talk about continuum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:04:55.093 --> 01:05:00.596
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and later, continuum is why we did not choose future sex love sounds for our Justin Timberlake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:05:02.083 --> 01:05:09.246
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so even though man of the woods, not our favorite Justin Timberlake out, Max, you are at least favorite Justin Timberlake out.

01:05:09.346 --> 01:05:13.768
[SPEAKER_00]: It did give us an opportunity to talk about talk about phase of his career as well.

01:05:14.708 --> 01:05:18.870
[SPEAKER_00]: And look, I have been pretty hard on him over the years.

01:05:19.050 --> 01:05:22.331
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Black Twitter has been really hard of him over the years.

01:05:23.525 --> 01:05:28.868
[SPEAKER_00]: But him coming out and apologizing, I think, was a really solid thing to do.

01:05:30.389 --> 01:05:39.894
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think what has happened later in his career is actually humanizing, like, I don't want to make it sound like having a DUI is a positive thing.

01:05:39.914 --> 01:05:40.994
[SPEAKER_00]: It is absolutely right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the man has made mistakes.

01:05:43.275 --> 01:05:47.538
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, there were, I think there was stuff with him and Jessica Beale where

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[SPEAKER_00]: someone had saw him and he berated and maybe like, you know, talking to somebody or hitting up on somebody or something.

01:05:54.801 --> 01:06:01.765
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, when you're that high on the hill, you can only come down.

01:06:02.045 --> 01:06:02.405
[SPEAKER_00]: Come down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's musically from an acting perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know what Justin wants to do with the rest of his career.

01:06:08.228 --> 01:06:09.828
[SPEAKER_00]: He probably doesn't have to do.

01:06:09.848 --> 01:06:11.489
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have to do a damn thing.

01:06:12.110 --> 01:06:14.151
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he did want to do something,

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[SPEAKER_00]: with hosting Saturday Live and putting out an insane album.

01:06:22.622 --> 01:06:29.685
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he would catch another wave and then be back in the good graces and then he could kind of disappear again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be my move.

01:06:31.765 --> 01:06:35.607
[SPEAKER_01]: If he wants to, I think I think the move for Joshua would be a Vegas residency.

01:06:37.748 --> 01:06:41.929
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd do a Vegas residency, like do the hits, have like special guests or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe invite Janet and have them do like a little thing together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, I mean, I think like he's never going to be like biggest star in the world again.

01:06:57.602 --> 01:07:07.266
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and you know, everybody has a shelf life, but I do think that this, whatever this next phase of his career is, it could potentially be pretty interesting.

01:07:07.626 --> 01:07:09.987
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just got to like accept that

01:07:11.703 --> 01:07:13.664
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be the biggest thing in the world anymore.

01:07:13.945 --> 01:07:16.947
[SPEAKER_01]: Make records for, make the type of records that he wants to hear.

01:07:17.367 --> 01:07:25.412
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't chase trends and, you know, his, you know, that black Twitter thing is funny because it's like, you know, and this is internet.

01:07:25.852 --> 01:07:32.977
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, people will talk shit and, you know, be all day about just the timbre lake is a colonizer and blah, blah, blah, and all this other shit.

01:07:33.477 --> 01:07:39.982
[SPEAKER_01]: But if they're sitting at home and sexy back or my love comes out with an abopt to it, you know, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I mean, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think most of that is bullshit anyway, but yeah.

01:07:46.882 --> 01:07:53.246
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he's still he still can do whatever he wants to do and have it be somewhat successful.

01:07:53.706 --> 01:07:57.209
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I do think, you know, him being taken down a couple of pegs has been.

01:07:59.371 --> 01:08:00.952
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, was bound to happen at some point.

01:08:00.972 --> 01:08:01.812
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:08:02.293 --> 01:08:07.917
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, you just got to like pivot and then like keep moving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that is it from here, so we'll be back with the top five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Check out 50 for 50.net, all of our stuff is up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and we're going to keep keep going until we get through this list man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope that folks are enjoying the content and you can send me an email gg at bsp and media.com if you have any feedback, you have any questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You wonder why how Mike remembers all these dates and all of those timeframes?

01:08:41.020 --> 01:08:41.860
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just his brain.

01:08:41.940 --> 01:08:43.701
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just he's just built for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay.

01:08:45.411 --> 01:08:46.357
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it from here for Mike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm WC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we see you, peace.

01:08:48.167 --> 01:08:48.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.