Aug. 2, 2026
Wu-Tang Clan's Top 5 Songs — And Where the Clan Is Now
Wu-Tang Clan's catalog spans nine solo careers and eight different record labels, so picking just five songs is no small task. On this episode of 50 for 50, hosts Mike Joseph and Garrett Gonzales each bring their Top 5 Wu-Tang songs of all time to the table — pulling from group classics and solo records alike — and go head-to-head defending their picks.
Expect the obvious contenders in the conversation — "Protect Ya Neck," "C.R.E.A.M.," "Liquid Swords," Method Man and Mary J. Blige's "All I Need" — alongside a few deeper cuts Mike and Garrett think deserve more credit. It's less a definitive ranking and more a real argument about what actually makes a Wu-Tang song great: the chemistry of the full Clan trading verses, or a member's solo record hitting its own singular groove.
In the back half, Mike and Garrett zoom out to where the Wu-Tang story stands today, more than 30 years after Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers). That includes the group's farewell "Wu-Tang Forever: The Final Chamber" tour, RZA's pivot into filmmaking, new albums from Raekwon and Ghostface Killah, Method Man's run as a working actor, and how Ol' Dirty Bastard's son has stepped in to carry his father's legacy onstage.
This episode pairs with our full Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) deep dive, where Mike and Garrett cover the group's origin story, the business plan behind their historic multi-label solo deals, and a full breakdown of the 1993 debut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back at the top five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dool-Tang clan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And before we actually get to the top five, I was digging through some research.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was kind of interested, like, what are these dudes doing today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mike had mentioned on our 50-per-50 episode on Enter the Wu-Tang, 30 X Chambers, that they are on what they are billing their farewell tour Wu-Tang forever, the final chamber.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which kicked off last year, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this year's, yeah, was it an Baltimore, or was that this year in Baltimore?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might have some wrong information here, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The North American leg right now runs in August and they're running with August through October with phone thug.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus there's some international dates and then I think they're supposed to close out in Japan really cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like most of the folks are on board.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess young dirty is also coming in to his father stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was dead stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so so that's what they are doing as a group and and
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[SPEAKER_00]: a movie called one spoon of chocolate or he already directed it which came out in May 2022 and Quentin Tarantino was on board as a presenter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he distributed it through his own distribution label 36 cinema.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was also a he also co-scored the film and there's a soundtrack out
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[SPEAKER_00]: and he's on this current tour.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's risen in Tarantino of dumb stuff before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to see him back to like, can't you bill?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like a really tight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Giza has done some touring for his 30th anniversary of liquid swords.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that I would go to a solo Giza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a listen, like a handful of songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If like he showed up at a thing was like I'm going to do like three joints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be fired up for those three joints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Method man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's an attorney on power book to ghost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus 26 film work relationship goals alongside Kelly Row Row.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And are they dating in real life?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so I'm not really sure what the deal is there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, you know, I do think it's funny that Power Book 2 finds Mary J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And met the man together again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, and kind of a much different scenario.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, met the man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay, you know, he's staying booked and busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also trying to put out, uh, put out how high three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How high two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: think I think three there was a two let's see how high two how high two came out in twenty nineteen with uh little little yaddy I think oh that's why I didn't know about it little yaddy and I guess Mike episodes in it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so how high three is in development and I think they're trying to get method and read it back in as the main stars that's that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Funny, I mean, how's that going to work?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like these dudes are in their 50s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember how high one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love that movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I've ever seen it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might put that on the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a methamen and red man actually had a sitcom for like a season called Methan Red, which was based off of how high.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do remember that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Rayquan released the Emperor's new clothes this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... pasture was it i've been twenty twenty five twenty five okay yeah uh... ghost method inspector deck noss west side gun Benny the butcher and conway the machine were on it uh... ghost face uh... released supreme clientele two and set the tone those are his two last records and tons of guests so he's still still doing his thing man
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[SPEAKER_00]: deck, put out a joint project with Staten Island rapper Chetabang.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know Chetabang?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This would have, this was recently and then he announced the new solo album built entirely around cleared samples from Tracklib, the legal sample licensing
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good for the 15 people who care about a new inspected back album in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, let's see, you got, uh, I guess he had filed a lawsuit against Riza for unpaid royalties and shares.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess he's on this tour, so maybe that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That beef got settled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Might as well get that show money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly collaborating with rock him and corrupt if he hurts us weird weird trio Yeah, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It massed a killer when I heard his voice It reminded me of like someone trying to do like a slim shady impersonation a little bit really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then ODB of like we said, his young, his son does his father's parts in in the concert run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His estate is co-directed by his daughters to Niqua and Shakita and young DB has a business with his own young dirty brew honey ale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we just get everyone up to speed on what happened to Wu Tae?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do our 50 for 50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't choose any rock with it, stop with it, stuff for this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I did want us to shout out a couple songs that I left off of my list, that I wondered if like you'd even thought about them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But people, Daytona 500, that's such a joke, record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost added it and it kind of it was left off and it's mostly because
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I like it, but it's not one that I go back to often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't want to feel like, oh, I'm just going to grab this just for the list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I tried to keep it to the stuff that I know really well and the stuff that I kept going back to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, which means though, a song that I would say is fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's really good, but the artist who is the things the hook on this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think makes it almost excellent, which is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... breakups to make ups with uh... the angelo yeah that's such a good record uh... shout out to the arrest and peace d angelo rest in peace force and these who saying one day to one of five hundred i think they've all passed away uh... yeah yeah i forgot about that the angelo record to all right and in and you know i i i'm not that i'd like this song that much but method was actually able to get a
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lauren Hill, sample, singing something on one of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It couldn't even do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did it couldn't get it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was, that's kind of interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but not one that I necessarily go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good song, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, let's kick it off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your number five on your top five?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So number five is from the liquid swords album Shadow Boxing, which is just a method man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, resist production is so inventive and I just like I love that sample.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is my number five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that song a lot too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I tried to like, it's one of those things where I listened to that jizzle album and I love it so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not like a lot of like singular songs that I go and just replay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just like to play the whole thing all the way through, but I did add it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did add it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did add it jizzle song that I'll talk about in a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started to, no, that's what you love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But going back to DiAngelo, there's a remix of Cold World, which is on liquid swords, that DiAngelo sings the hook on and then years later, there's a rap city album that she uses the beat for liquid swords and got Giza and DiAngelo to be on that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's dope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I'd listen to more rap cities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's one of the few, I guess I would you would say recent rappers that I that I do enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I can drink in rap city or kind of holding it down for hip hop for me in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, my number five is, uh, me T. H. O. D. Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just that's my introduction to them is that song and I that that that the hook is a little
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little it could I think I'd like it, but I you know, it could be a little cheesy But I do I do lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like very memorable very easy like He tells you right from the get like this is me and I was found it interesting that it was a Wu Tang song Rather than a method man solo album song, but they didn't have their solo albums out So well, yeah, yeah, I mean nobody knew who method man was
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and, you know, I mean, I think part of the reason that song got as big as it did is because, you know, the METHOD part is from Hall of Notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's like a, you know, a big pop record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you grew up listening to pop music in the 80s, you immediately like identified that hook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is number four for you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, number four is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is number four?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't read.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number four is ice cream from only built to Cuban links, methamen again, but Rayquan goes facing methamen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song, Summer in 95, was on the radio all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My next is again, going back to meth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or as he himself may have called himself in, what other people have called him, meth, M.E.F.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really, released Yodelf, him sort of scream shouting the hook and then that done, done, done, done, done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like that is just very memorable to me and that's one of the standout tracks for me on that album too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number three is protecting neck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second one is actually pretty dope, but the first one is all time classic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All nine guys wrap in just day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does actually now that you sort of mentioned the posse cut like Wu Tang may be getting like inspiration from that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can draw a very straight line between scenario and protecting neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you on triumph?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like a video made it seem like a better song than it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something that wasn't too it without the video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I would have had them a little bit more Amped up for this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If this is the song that's going to lead the album off, they're like kind of mellow in a way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like protecting that is nine dudes rapping in like three and a half minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Triumph is nine dudes rapping like seven and a half minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They all had to get their spot at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, show their their goods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three for me is liquid swords by Giza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to throw him in there, get him in the middle of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought about labels, because I think labels is such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark, long, but I go back to this one more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is the kind of song I think about when I hear him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, the picture is so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he did, like, on his second album, he does, I think it's called publicity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're instead of like going over record labels he goes over like magazine titles and puts them all in this song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, it's so creative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number two is Brooklyn Zoo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so like, it's unhinged, but like, every line on that song is like a classic line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like it's crazy, but it's also like it also still makes sense is not just completely like dirty going off the rails
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, only because we're going through this a little quickly, but it just made me think about something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because when these guys did become pretty famous outside of the group, they kind of went their own way on certain songs, they kind of did different things in what you'd expect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think one of those ways,
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[SPEAKER_00]: was dirty with got your money with police police.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where are you with that song today?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to a friend of mine, think on the fourth of July.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she mentioned how like as she's gotten older, that's one of the songs that she can't listen to as much anymore
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you take it a face value, it's kind of misogynist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he says in stuff, that's like a little sketchy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, I'm just like, this dude is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like any plays it for a joke kind of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't take it as seriously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about Shay Shay Lagost?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know, I never really liked that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about the Jax and five sample for Iron Man with Mary J?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, I like that song until the end where like the dude just starts going off on is like little tangent talking and doing all that 5% shit and I'm like, okay, let's cut that off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up with that shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that was a that was a quick aside because it you something you made me something you said made me think of that ODB song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we got to actually if we're talking about ODB, we got to shout out fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, so here here's an interesting thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm trying to think of what would the timing have been?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that fantasy came out in 95.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when did that version of the song come out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the original version of the remix came out kind of simultaneously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the same year that returned to 36 chambers came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would have been like six months after 36 or ODB solo album came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And do you think me and Mariah go back like babies and pacifiers is like the most memorable like you know bar for a remix of a song like it's got to be up there right so it's everybody knows that that long it's up there and do you think people realize that he's basically saying I think the pacifiers a euphemism for
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[SPEAKER_00]: like her boob kind of, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I mean, you don't think you're saying like, no, he's just, I mean, it's, it's one of the things that we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there was a double on time through there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was trying to, you know, be like, rise my home girl, we go back and pass the fire around from a riot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that was, that was kind of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So does dirt dog and a liar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is true, just knowing his sense of humor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm not saying that he's saying that he and Mariah were hooking up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that I don't think that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I would, I just, I always took it as him being really playful as a way to say that, you know, like a sexual metaphor or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I thought, but I, yeah, I never saw him ask about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, who know, I mean, and it's good to think about just how
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[SPEAKER_01]: how crazy that pairing was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously 30 years later, Mariah's made a record with every rapper in the known universe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But back then, like Mariah was very much like pop princess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it got hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and this was her way of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: being like, yo, you know, I am part of the hip-hop generation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up in New York City, like, I, you know, like, I don't want to say it was her reclaiming her blackness because that indicates that we have a very no narrow idea of what blackness is, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was her being like, I'm not, I'm not just singing these like power values, like I'm down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man, vanishing that she's, I feel like she's very black on vanishing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's, yeah, I mean, it's just like it's hard to, it's you're saying like leaning into the culture more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was she was leaning into youth culture, hip hop culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't trying to be like Whitney 2.0 and right, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which would have been a mistake, you know, I, you know, you don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because at the end of the day, Whitney tried to be more like Mariah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at the end of the day, she did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She totally did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, number two for me is a met method Mary Jay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, there's just one of my favorite crop like hip hop R&B crossover songs of all time, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just like, except for the fact that it was driven by a puffed daddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's a fantastic song to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's like it captures, you know, because we talk about
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what new Jack swing was, and then when hip hop got to a certain level, um, you know, rappers going on arm beat or pop songs and an R&B artist singing hooks for for rap songs, but this was like the perfect like the perfect building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, stars at the peak of their powers, yeah, but not a fantastic song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my group, which and all right, my number one is cash rules everything around me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, you know, there are certain songs where I can picture where I was at the time when it was popular.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are also certain songs that I can attach to a specific space in time because it felt like every car driver through New York City was playing a certain song for like months at a time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can think of that with, like, I want to sex you up by calling me bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can think of that with, like, real love by Mary J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, I wonder if I take you home by Lisa Lisa, like, certain songs from, like, my youth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can pin to a specific time in place because it felt like, every time I heard a car drive by, it was, like, blast in that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And cream is one of those songs where, like, end in 93 beginning in 94, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time I was, you know, kind of in my neighborhood like going to bed at night or like waking up in the morning or like walking through the city on, you know, whatever like every car that drove by every radio that was playing was playing that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of, I didn't want to cheat, but if I, if I could have cheated, I would have put.
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[SPEAKER_00]: cream and protect your neck is like one A and one B. I just put protect your neck here at number one, just because I figured you were going to have cream at number one so that we could have, but then you had protect your neck at number three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, those songs are like right out of the gate, man, like here's who we are, this is what we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to kick everybody's ass and we're going to take names and it's just, it's like, again, it's like that, back to what I loved about scenario is what I love about those two songs as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, I mean, that first album is such a banner like it's, it's, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things that can only happen one time in hip hop when you get like a whole bunch of hungry dudes or, you know, a whole bunch of hungry people and they just create like magic together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have more than.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One Lutin clan album in your vinyl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 36 chambers me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about solo solo joints of other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got, uh, on vinyl, I have to cow, I've got liquid, liquid swords, and I think I still have cute and links although I can't remember if I sold that off or not, um, and I have, uh, the first two goes face albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have, I have liquid swords, and I can't remember which goes face album I have is it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fish scale,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It came in one of my subscriptions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that I just accepted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I accepted it as one of the offerings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who doesn't want to have a ghost face album in there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, all right, that was a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a deep one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a lot of stuff to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was, it's just such a fantastic, a fascinating point in time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when you think about when your fandom is super duper high and you're eager to learn so many different things, like 1993 plays a big part of that for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think it kind of like, I always think of this as like I'm buying source magazine at this point, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not until I get into college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where I really focus on like, I really need to like, own up on this history, because this is a culture that doesn't have this crazy long past and that I can kind of really, really learn about, learn even the roots of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, right, a little bit after this time, I would have started really, really digging into the history and stuff, but this is such a crazy time for me for my brain when it comes to what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, I mean, I was right there with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at this point, I had been reading the source like religiously for probably like four years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just like, you know, everything he wants to know about hip hop, you ran to the new stand, like the beginning of every month and just kind of like caught up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, it was just like a great time in, you know, a great time in music, great time in hip hop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the source.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When does Vib come out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first issue of Vib came out, I want to say the beginning of 93.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Vib is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then when does XXL come out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Later, XXL was mid-90s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there were other magazines, I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there was rap pages, there was,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eagle trip, they were a bunch of, you know, sort of hip hop, you know, or arm be really, when really did magazines, trying to remember what one, because, um, when I, when I was like, thinking, you know, trying to like read up as much like what I realized is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't necessarily all that necessary to subscribe because the reason to subscribe to the magazine would be to get it before it came out before everyone and what I realized is that I didn't really come out that much sooner than I could go read it come by days may call yeah in my college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: store where I could just read it for free so that I stop the subscriptions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was trying to think of there was another one that I remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you, I'm drawing a blank right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't think of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the internet is not doing me any good right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but we're good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back with the next episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a little George Michael on the brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That could be next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Been listening to the albums and just realizing that like, this dude didn't even put out as much music as I thought he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think between his solo stuff and WAM stuff, you might have like eight albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I've been, I haven't dug through the wham stuff yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those most of the listeners, she has solo stuff, but I will listen to the wham stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we got this, this, the Mariah Carey episode is the one that I keep pushing further back because I do want to go through her book again, because I read the book when it came out and now I want to go through her telling in the audio version.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then talk about someone with so many albums.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just a not huge catalog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Mariah one is coming and I think I think that's the one I'm looking most forward to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just like I'm a little intimidated by it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll put that one into the near future, but we got we got John mayor coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Beyonce coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got so launch coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Billy Joel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got prints, lots of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's still so many episodes that I'm looking forward to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've already done a lot of biggies as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and speaking of Biggie, we got Biggie to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we do have a Biggie episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Mike, I'm WCC when we see you piece out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back at the top five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dool-Tang clan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And before we actually get to the top five, I was digging through some research.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was kind of interested, like, what are these dudes doing today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mike had mentioned on our 50-per-50 episode on Enter the Wu-Tang, 30 X Chambers, that they are on what they are billing their farewell tour Wu-Tang forever, the final chamber.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which kicked off last year, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this year's, yeah, was it an Baltimore, or was that this year in Baltimore?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might have some wrong information here, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The North American leg right now runs in August and they're running with August through October with phone thug.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus there's some international dates and then I think they're supposed to close out in Japan really cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like most of the folks are on board.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess young dirty is also coming in to his father stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was dead stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so so that's what they are doing as a group and and
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[SPEAKER_00]: a movie called one spoon of chocolate or he already directed it which came out in May 2022 and Quentin Tarantino was on board as a presenter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he distributed it through his own distribution label 36 cinema.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was also a he also co-scored the film and there's a soundtrack out
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[SPEAKER_00]: and he's on this current tour.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's risen in Tarantino of dumb stuff before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to see him back to like, can't you bill?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like a really tight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Giza has done some touring for his 30th anniversary of liquid swords.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that I would go to a solo Giza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a listen, like a handful of songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If like he showed up at a thing was like I'm going to do like three joints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be fired up for those three joints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Method man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's an attorney on power book to ghost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus 26 film work relationship goals alongside Kelly Row Row.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And are they dating in real life?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so I'm not really sure what the deal is there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, you know, I do think it's funny that Power Book 2 finds Mary J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And met the man together again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, and kind of a much different scenario.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, met the man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay, you know, he's staying booked and busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also trying to put out, uh, put out how high three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How high two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: think I think three there was a two let's see how high two how high two came out in twenty nineteen with uh little little yaddy I think oh that's why I didn't know about it little yaddy and I guess Mike episodes in it
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so how high three is in development and I think they're trying to get method and read it back in as the main stars that's that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Funny, I mean, how's that going to work?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like these dudes are in their 50s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember how high one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love that movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I've ever seen it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might put that on the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a methamen and red man actually had a sitcom for like a season called Methan Red, which was based off of how high.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do remember that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Rayquan released the Emperor's new clothes this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... pasture was it i've been twenty twenty five twenty five okay yeah uh... ghost method inspector deck noss west side gun Benny the butcher and conway the machine were on it uh... ghost face uh... released supreme clientele two and set the tone those are his two last records and tons of guests so he's still still doing his thing man
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[SPEAKER_00]: deck, put out a joint project with Staten Island rapper Chetabang.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know Chetabang?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This would have, this was recently and then he announced the new solo album built entirely around cleared samples from Tracklib, the legal sample licensing
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good for the 15 people who care about a new inspected back album in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, let's see, you got, uh, I guess he had filed a lawsuit against Riza for unpaid royalties and shares.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess he's on this tour, so maybe that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That beef got settled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Might as well get that show money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly collaborating with rock him and corrupt if he hurts us weird weird trio Yeah, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It massed a killer when I heard his voice It reminded me of like someone trying to do like a slim shady impersonation a little bit really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then ODB of like we said, his young, his son does his father's parts in in the concert run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His estate is co-directed by his daughters to Niqua and Shakita and young DB has a business with his own young dirty brew honey ale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we just get everyone up to speed on what happened to Wu Tae?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do our 50 for 50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't choose any rock with it, stop with it, stuff for this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I did want us to shout out a couple songs that I left off of my list, that I wondered if like you'd even thought about them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But people, Daytona 500, that's such a joke, record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost added it and it kind of it was left off and it's mostly because
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I like it, but it's not one that I go back to often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't want to feel like, oh, I'm just going to grab this just for the list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I tried to keep it to the stuff that I know really well and the stuff that I kept going back to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, which means though, a song that I would say is fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's really good, but the artist who is the things the hook on this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think makes it almost excellent, which is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... breakups to make ups with uh... the angelo yeah that's such a good record uh... shout out to the arrest and peace d angelo rest in peace force and these who saying one day to one of five hundred i think they've all passed away uh... yeah yeah i forgot about that the angelo record to all right and in and you know i i i'm not that i'd like this song that much but method was actually able to get a
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lauren Hill, sample, singing something on one of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It couldn't even do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did it couldn't get it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was, that's kind of interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but not one that I necessarily go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good song, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, let's kick it off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your number five on your top five?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So number five is from the liquid swords album Shadow Boxing, which is just a method man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, resist production is so inventive and I just like I love that sample.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is my number five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that song a lot too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I tried to like, it's one of those things where I listened to that jizzle album and I love it so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not like a lot of like singular songs that I go and just replay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just like to play the whole thing all the way through, but I did add it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did add it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did add it jizzle song that I'll talk about in a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started to, no, that's what you love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But going back to DiAngelo, there's a remix of Cold World, which is on liquid swords, that DiAngelo sings the hook on and then years later, there's a rap city album that she uses the beat for liquid swords and got Giza and DiAngelo to be on that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's dope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I'd listen to more rap cities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's one of the few, I guess I would you would say recent rappers that I that I do enjoy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I can drink in rap city or kind of holding it down for hip hop for me in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, my number five is, uh, me T. H. O. D. Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just that's my introduction to them is that song and I that that that the hook is a little
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little it could I think I'd like it, but I you know, it could be a little cheesy But I do I do lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like very memorable very easy like He tells you right from the get like this is me and I was found it interesting that it was a Wu Tang song Rather than a method man solo album song, but they didn't have their solo albums out So well, yeah, yeah, I mean nobody knew who method man was
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and, you know, I mean, I think part of the reason that song got as big as it did is because, you know, the METHOD part is from Hall of Notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's like a, you know, a big pop record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you grew up listening to pop music in the 80s, you immediately like identified that hook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is number four for you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, number four is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is number four?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't read.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number four is ice cream from only built to Cuban links, methamen again, but Rayquan goes facing methamen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song, Summer in 95, was on the radio all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My next is again, going back to meth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or as he himself may have called himself in, what other people have called him, meth, M.E.F.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really, released Yodelf, him sort of scream shouting the hook and then that done, done, done, done, done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like that is just very memorable to me and that's one of the standout tracks for me on that album too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number three is protecting neck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second one is actually pretty dope, but the first one is all time classic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All nine guys wrap in just day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does actually now that you sort of mentioned the posse cut like Wu Tang may be getting like inspiration from that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can draw a very straight line between scenario and protecting neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you on triumph?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like a video made it seem like a better song than it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something that wasn't too it without the video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I would have had them a little bit more Amped up for this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If this is the song that's going to lead the album off, they're like kind of mellow in a way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like protecting that is nine dudes rapping in like three and a half minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Triumph is nine dudes rapping like seven and a half minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They all had to get their spot at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, show their their goods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three for me is liquid swords by Giza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to throw him in there, get him in the middle of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought about labels, because I think labels is such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, such a shame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark, long, but I go back to this one more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is the kind of song I think about when I hear him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, the picture is so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he did, like, on his second album, he does, I think it's called publicity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're instead of like going over record labels he goes over like magazine titles and puts them all in this song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, it's so creative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number two is Brooklyn Zoo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so like, it's unhinged, but like, every line on that song is like a classic line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like it's crazy, but it's also like it also still makes sense is not just completely like dirty going off the rails
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, only because we're going through this a little quickly, but it just made me think about something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because when these guys did become pretty famous outside of the group, they kind of went their own way on certain songs, they kind of did different things in what you'd expect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think one of those ways,
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[SPEAKER_00]: was dirty with got your money with police police.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where are you with that song today?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to a friend of mine, think on the fourth of July.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she mentioned how like as she's gotten older, that's one of the songs that she can't listen to as much anymore
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you take it a face value, it's kind of misogynist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he says in stuff, that's like a little sketchy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, I'm just like, this dude is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like any plays it for a joke kind of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't take it as seriously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about Shay Shay Lagost?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know, I never really liked that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about the Jax and five sample for Iron Man with Mary J?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, I like that song until the end where like the dude just starts going off on is like little tangent talking and doing all that 5% shit and I'm like, okay, let's cut that off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up with that shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that was a that was a quick aside because it you something you made me something you said made me think of that ODB song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we got to actually if we're talking about ODB, we got to shout out fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, so here here's an interesting thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm trying to think of what would the timing have been?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that fantasy came out in 95.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when did that version of the song come out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the original version of the remix came out kind of simultaneously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the same year that returned to 36 chambers came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would have been like six months after 36 or ODB solo album came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And do you think me and Mariah go back like babies and pacifiers is like the most memorable like you know bar for a remix of a song like it's got to be up there right so it's everybody knows that that long it's up there and do you think people realize that he's basically saying I think the pacifiers a euphemism for
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[SPEAKER_00]: like her boob kind of, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I mean, you don't think you're saying like, no, he's just, I mean, it's, it's one of the things that we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there was a double on time through there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was trying to, you know, be like, rise my home girl, we go back and pass the fire around from a riot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that was, that was kind of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So does dirt dog and a liar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is true, just knowing his sense of humor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm not saying that he's saying that he and Mariah were hooking up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that I don't think that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I would, I just, I always took it as him being really playful as a way to say that, you know, like a sexual metaphor or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I thought, but I, yeah, I never saw him ask about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, who know, I mean, and it's good to think about just how
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[SPEAKER_01]: how crazy that pairing was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously 30 years later, Mariah's made a record with every rapper in the known universe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But back then, like Mariah was very much like pop princess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it got hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and this was her way of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: being like, yo, you know, I am part of the hip-hop generation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up in New York City, like, I, you know, like, I don't want to say it was her reclaiming her blackness because that indicates that we have a very no narrow idea of what blackness is, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was her being like, I'm not, I'm not just singing these like power values, like I'm down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man, vanishing that she's, I feel like she's very black on vanishing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's, yeah, I mean, it's just like it's hard to, it's you're saying like leaning into the culture more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was she was leaning into youth culture, hip hop culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't trying to be like Whitney 2.0 and right, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which would have been a mistake, you know, I, you know, you don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because at the end of the day, Whitney tried to be more like Mariah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at the end of the day, she did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She totally did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, number two for me is a met method Mary Jay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, there's just one of my favorite crop like hip hop R&B crossover songs of all time, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just like, except for the fact that it was driven by a puffed daddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's a fantastic song to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's like it captures, you know, because we talk about
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what new Jack swing was, and then when hip hop got to a certain level, um, you know, rappers going on arm beat or pop songs and an R&B artist singing hooks for for rap songs, but this was like the perfect like the perfect building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, stars at the peak of their powers, yeah, but not a fantastic song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my group, which and all right, my number one is cash rules everything around me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, you know, there are certain songs where I can picture where I was at the time when it was popular.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are also certain songs that I can attach to a specific space in time because it felt like every car driver through New York City was playing a certain song for like months at a time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can think of that with, like, I want to sex you up by calling me bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can think of that with, like, real love by Mary J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, I wonder if I take you home by Lisa Lisa, like, certain songs from, like, my youth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can pin to a specific time in place because it felt like, every time I heard a car drive by, it was, like, blast in that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And cream is one of those songs where, like, end in 93 beginning in 94, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time I was, you know, kind of in my neighborhood like going to bed at night or like waking up in the morning or like walking through the city on, you know, whatever like every car that drove by every radio that was playing was playing that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of, I didn't want to cheat, but if I, if I could have cheated, I would have put.
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[SPEAKER_00]: cream and protect your neck is like one A and one B. I just put protect your neck here at number one, just because I figured you were going to have cream at number one so that we could have, but then you had protect your neck at number three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, those songs are like right out of the gate, man, like here's who we are, this is what we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to kick everybody's ass and we're going to take names and it's just, it's like, again, it's like that, back to what I loved about scenario is what I love about those two songs as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, I mean, that first album is such a banner like it's, it's, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things that can only happen one time in hip hop when you get like a whole bunch of hungry dudes or, you know, a whole bunch of hungry people and they just create like magic together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have more than.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One Lutin clan album in your vinyl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 36 chambers me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about solo solo joints of other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got, uh, on vinyl, I have to cow, I've got liquid, liquid swords, and I think I still have cute and links although I can't remember if I sold that off or not, um, and I have, uh, the first two goes face albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have, I have liquid swords, and I can't remember which goes face album I have is it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fish scale,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It came in one of my subscriptions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that I just accepted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I accepted it as one of the offerings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who doesn't want to have a ghost face album in there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, all right, that was a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a deep one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a lot of stuff to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was, it's just such a fantastic, a fascinating point in time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when you think about when your fandom is super duper high and you're eager to learn so many different things, like 1993 plays a big part of that for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think it kind of like, I always think of this as like I'm buying source magazine at this point, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not until I get into college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where I really focus on like, I really need to like, own up on this history, because this is a culture that doesn't have this crazy long past and that I can kind of really, really learn about, learn even the roots of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, right, a little bit after this time, I would have started really, really digging into the history and stuff, but this is such a crazy time for me for my brain when it comes to what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, I mean, I was right there with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at this point, I had been reading the source like religiously for probably like four years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just like, you know, everything he wants to know about hip hop, you ran to the new stand, like the beginning of every month and just kind of like caught up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, it was just like a great time in, you know, a great time in music, great time in hip hop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the source.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When does Vib come out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first issue of Vib came out, I want to say the beginning of 93.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Vib is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then when does XXL come out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Later, XXL was mid-90s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there were other magazines, I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there was rap pages, there was,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eagle trip, they were a bunch of, you know, sort of hip hop, you know, or arm be really, when really did magazines, trying to remember what one, because, um, when I, when I was like, thinking, you know, trying to like read up as much like what I realized is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't necessarily all that necessary to subscribe because the reason to subscribe to the magazine would be to get it before it came out before everyone and what I realized is that I didn't really come out that much sooner than I could go read it come by days may call yeah in my college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: store where I could just read it for free so that I stop the subscriptions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was trying to think of there was another one that I remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you, I'm drawing a blank right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't think of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the internet is not doing me any good right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but we're good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back with the next episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a little George Michael on the brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That could be next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Been listening to the albums and just realizing that like, this dude didn't even put out as much music as I thought he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think between his solo stuff and WAM stuff, you might have like eight albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I've been, I haven't dug through the wham stuff yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those most of the listeners, she has solo stuff, but I will listen to the wham stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we got this, this, the Mariah Carey episode is the one that I keep pushing further back because I do want to go through her book again, because I read the book when it came out and now I want to go through her telling in the audio version.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then talk about someone with so many albums.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just a not huge catalog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Mariah one is coming and I think I think that's the one I'm looking most forward to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just like I'm a little intimidated by it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll put that one into the near future, but we got we got John mayor coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Beyonce coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got so launch coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Billy Joel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got prints, lots of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's still so many episodes that I'm looking forward to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've already done a lot of biggies as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and speaking of Biggie, we got Biggie to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we do have a Biggie episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Mike, I'm WCC when we see you piece out.