Oct. 1, 2026
A Different World Is Back: Inside the Hillman Reboot | The Cool Check-In
Debbie Allen spent over a decade trying to get this made. On this episode of The Cool Check-In, hosts Garrett Gonzales and Mike Joseph break down Netflix's A Different World revival — a sequel series following Dwayne Wayne and Whitley Gilbert's daughter at Hillman College — and dig into exactly how it got here, who's in it, and what actually happens in the first two episodes.
In this episode:
- The origin story — Debbie Allen pushing for a revival since 2012, Netflix quietly developing it starting in 2024, the rare pilot order, and a premiere date timed to the exact 39th anniversary of the original
- The cast breakdown — eleven original actors back as real recurring characters (not just cameos), plus new lead Maleah Joi Moon as Deborah Wayne and a stacked new supporting cast including Method Man and Tichina Arnold
- A full recap of Episodes 1 & 2 — the roommate and ex-boyfriend drama that kicks things off, and the $100 million financial scandal that suddenly makes Dwayne Wayne's new job as interim president the real engine of the season
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike and I are back with the cool check-in, and we are checking in on the 39 year old reboot of a show that we watched for the new we were youngsters, we were kids, a different world, it's back, it's back, I wanted to actually go back a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of this is just, I actually all of it is just my memory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't I've not done a origin story of the original different world all I remember is
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lisa Bonet was kind of becoming a bigger than her character of Denise Huckstable, like maybe more popular than they realized she was going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She also maybe was a little bit more ram bunkest than the other Cosby, the other Huckstables.
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[SPEAKER_00]: rambunctions is a very good word and uh... you know she she would go on to do some things in her career that i'm sure bill casby did not want her to do
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's really what I remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, man, Lisa Bonet is such a powerhouse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's going to be like a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they spin off this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last episode of her on the actual Cosby show before a different world is her leaving the house and choosing Hillman and looking back at the Huxibal house and then we move on to a different world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, she does not last on that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She lasts one season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Marisa Tome is on that show, obviously Don Lewis, Jasmine Guy, Kadeem Hardison, those were the the big players in that first season and it becomes like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: something outside of Denise and I was found that to be really interesting because I just had assumed that when Denise's gone like this show's kind of done but actually it actually grows beyond what it was now I'm sure if we go back and look at the ratings just because of how TV worked maybe that first season was the highest rated season or whatever but that show was
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[SPEAKER_00]: cliff and Claire and Rudy doing cameos right because that was always the hook because like oh it's in this like Cosby show universe like hillman But it like it sticks around for a long time and it actually kicks off careers of Jadapinkets jad the now jadapinkets Smith a two-pox was it in an episode like you and it covered themes that
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[SPEAKER_00]: The cause we show sometimes would cover like you would see it every once in a while, but they lean more into it because it's a younger part, it's a college show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always, I always loved the, I loved the aspect of, hey, this is young people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, people who were a little bit older than us at that time, but still something that we could kind of look up to now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not comparing it for this reason, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Beverly Hills, 902, I know, was like as old as me, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every character was in the same grade or maybe one grade up of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, oh, I'm kind of growing through this show with these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But a different world, they were older than us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was almost like, oh, this is kind of cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what college possibly could be like, though, you know, I wasn't going to go to an HBCU necessarily, but like that aspect of like, oh, this is actually, this makes me look forward to college in a way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just found I found that to be interesting and then the show is successful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It turns into a Dwayne Wayne and Whitley Gilbert show as it ages up and then they reboot it third and years later and the main protagonist is the daughter of Whitley and Dwayne and Whitley and Dwayne.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Daborah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, not Daborah, Daborah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Daborah Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a different world really was like the only show on television at the time, that portrayed college life in any facet, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, irrespective of the fact that it was an HBCU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there were no other college related shows on TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the time, when you and I, like the contemporary shows for us would have been something like Lantern 210 or saved by the bell, you know, those folks were all about the same ages us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the folks that had different worlds were maybe five or six years older.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're in, you know, eighth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade, ninth grade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And seeing these people who were would have been like our older brothers and sisters, you know, having their experience of going to school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lisa Bonay leaving the show and she left the show because she got pregnant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine that bill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Young woman gets pregnant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, come on man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Bill kind of wrote her off her, you know, took her back from the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that gave them a chance to like retool the show and make it more of
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they brought in Debbie Allen as like a producer and consultant and you know, it's funny because one thing I didn't realize at the time, but is obvious is that Debbie Allen and Felicia Rashad are sisters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Bill just kind of pulled somebody else in from the family and they.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe Debbie Allen graduated from Howard and, you know, made it made retooled to show added some characters, you know, wrote Marissa told me out of the character, I don't know that it fully made sense for Denise to have a white roommate at an HBCU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and made it I think a little bit more authentic and made it more real and there were shows that dealt with, you know, like I remember there was a show that dealt with like Kimberly getting date rate There was a show where T. She Campbell was like a guest star and she was someone living with HIV
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think that ended up giving it legs, but yeah, here we are, you know, almost 40 years after the premiere and they brought a different world back and it's sort of a new generation of kids in college and they also brought back a lot of the original cast or the cast from sort of like the second post Lisa Bonet at the show now Lisa was pregnant with Zoe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She needs to show up on this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it gets a second season, I feel like there really should be a hoxstable on the new version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can't just write out the fact that
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this show was a spin-off of the Cosby show, you know, unfortunately Malcolm's no longer with us Malcolm would have been on this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm saying my get-tempo's blood so get Keeshinite Polium get, you know, like somebody on this show just sort of like represent the lineage of where the show came from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Bill still gets a giant piece of the show, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bill created the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got to get some back-end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you mentioned Debbie Allen, you think she thinks as fondly of Bill as Felicia seems to think of, I mean, it's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I look, Bill gave Felicia Rashard a huge
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Felicia Rashad has been on team bill to the disappointment of a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say Malcolm to before he passed away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Malcolm was very kind of agnostic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, when you go on, I mean, he was on Quest Love Supreme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is this is really my, you know, where I'm getting this information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he would continue to call him Mr. Cosby and when I hear that that seems to me like
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[SPEAKER_00]: there was some demand going on in that world where he wasn't built anybody he was he had to be called this thing and so they're still using that terminology even though this dude is you know in trouble and such and had done some terrible things but like I didn't get the sense that Malcolm was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, after this guy like he did all these bad things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the idea that he was like, I have to be very careful about what I say because of who I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I am not down the middle, I'm going to get it from both sides and I'm just going to stay in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and it's like, how do you hold the truth?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, when you, when someone in your family and, you know, God forbid this ever happens to you or anybody who's listening, but I'm sure it has happened to people who are listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When somebody in your family commits a crime or gets convicted of a crime and goes to jail, like, if that happens to your dad or your mama, your uncle or your cousin, they're still your dad or your mama, your uncle, your cousin,
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[SPEAKER_01]: like the person you love or the person that gave you your career or like the person that you work with or whatever it is and you also have to hold the idea that this person that you care so much about that you love so much did that things and that's like some hardship to carry and then like when there's a public person involved
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[SPEAKER_01]: people are going to be looking for you for the headline and you're going to try to like rope you into saying something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think Malcolm did a really good job of kind of not saying anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas, you know, I think Lisa, um, I mean, you know, I mean, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: has not said anything like straight out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I certainly uh uh vocalized effect that her experience with Bill was not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I I sort of feel like she was like see if y'all just had listened to me a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think she did but she did it in like a very uh diplomatic way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, this isn't about Malcolm, but it's kind of sucks to see what's going on with his estate right now with the life and his mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a buffer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So getting back to this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the people who have come back,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Whitley, you know, I feel like 40 years later, Whitley would be a little bit more sophisticated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not sophisticated, a little bit more like, okay, maybe I maybe I was a little bit too tight in the ass when I was younger, but nope, still tight in the ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has not gotten any less tight in the ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dwayne Wayne is back, uh, Kdim, he has a big role in the show, Darrell and Bell as Ron Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is the high, the five star recruit, Shaquille, and they didn't name this in the first two episodes, but I kind of looked it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is Shaquille's mom supposed to be?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you look this up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at the end of the second episode, I don't want to give too much away, but Shaquille has a picture and it's a Ron Johnson
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't remember how Lee Berry being on a different world, but I guess she was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess she was maybe as one of the women who dated Ronda.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess they, in the fictional world of Hillman, they got married and have a kid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no shots at Daryl and Bell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very memorable character on this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How, if Daryl and Bell,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is a six and a half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Halle Berry's like a 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm just saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Darrell is maybe the closest thing to a line to the original show that we had because I think him in tempest had been together for like 30 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good for them, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Chris summer is back as Freddie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a professor and Jennifer Lewis is Dean Davenport, but as far as I know, she's only in the first episode because she gets the boot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I'm watching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk with the first two episodes, so if you don't want to hear about this, I would say pause, go watch the first two episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're on Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 30 minutes long, very easy watches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very good watches though, I thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then come back because we'll spoil some stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been watching, I never caught blackish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: during it's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Blackish was so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got a crystal and I are through gosh, maybe season four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Jennifer Lewis is all over that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tremendous character, but blackish is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some people are a little bit like, is it too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: too much about, you know, it's always the white man's fault kind of thing, you know, which is which is part of that show and part of the experience, I like it because I grew up on good times and stuff like that where yeah, this is just his fault of the white man, but like I enjoy that show so much and I laugh at that stuff, but you know, it's in 2026, you know, the world that we're living in, I could see how people
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[SPEAKER_00]: could get offended at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, people are going to get offended no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and blackish, I don't think blackish was ever really a show where it's like white people, you know, there are some issues in which blackness and its proximity to whiteness are explored, but at the end of the day, it's a family sitcom about, you know, two, a very successful black
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[SPEAKER_01]: as I think a lot of black folks do like where they fit in the world with their success in relation to their identity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and they're also like raising three kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So more there's more there's like five kids in that family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the end of it, there are more than three kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They started out with, well, they started out with four four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then it ended up being five, uh, but um, you know, it's just like, it's a very, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more complex than just, you know, kind of like the overarching theme of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not done with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had to put it on hold to watch some other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Jennifer Lewis, you know, Jennifer Lewis, I think is just like a force of nature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have read her books, you know, she was on a different world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was on fresh prints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was on living single.
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[SPEAKER_01]: she, you know, has been on so many classic TV shows and is just like this force.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to Jennifer Lewis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She looks exactly the same too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's saying she does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, don't look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don Lewis is back as Jelisa Glinds Jelisa Glinterman as Colonel Bradford Taylor is there in memory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... he is uh... you see a picture around jadepink at smith i have not gotten to the don't lose glinter uh... and and jadepink glinter man is back lies in the first of person oh is he or no he's in later episodes kernel tip not kernel killer um... i would get the name of the character uh... who uh... ran the pit
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like the cook, my man is still alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Glent Hermann is still alive, which is crazy because he's got to be like 90.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My man was hanging out with Cochi, so is he still alive?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still alive, you know, he's lived his life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think he appears later in the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the new generation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So DeBora Wayne is played and I'm going to screw up the pronunciation because I don't know any of these youngsters, but they're great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm like these actors are great Malaya Joy Moon as DeBora Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's the daughter of Whitley in and Dwayne.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but there's a there's like a separation going on with them in the beginning uh... rishita who's my favorite character early on rishita's mom kind of gave me a little bit of hope that you know maybe we get some martin alumni on this show
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to sheena does appear in one episode in the first episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's on the FaceTime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: From the phone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, a bunch of other characters in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they do a really good job of kind of keeping all of the characters involved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like every like there's so many of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they, you know, they do a good job of keeping them all in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a mere is played by a young actor by the name of Jordan Aaron Hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this of any relation to the other Aaron Hall probably the Hall brothers I don't think so okay I just I don't think kind of interesting that he goes by the middle name name well and the name is Aaron Hall, but interesting yeah good character really good character and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, I'm always impressed by this dude and we've already talked about him from his music perspective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Method man is the football coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This dude has become a really, really good actor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I can't believe it, you know, like not to say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he, you know, he was doing the stuff with red man and they were doing movies and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was along, it was kind of like, you know, Friday kind of movies, comedy movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But ice cube himself, you know, before he became the actor that he is today, I think people thought ice cube had chops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and ice cube now does more of like the family in the comedy and like the less important kind of roles, but method man is like beef and his game up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just so impressed by method man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so those are those are most of the, you know, and again, a lot of really young people in the show, you really smart choices with with the characters, just well-rounded characters, the cast strong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first two episodes are about DeBora Wayne is the dot, not dissimilar from what we just talked about with Blackish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She comes from a very well together family and she has to be on her own and that is not easy for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's used to having things done for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's used to being
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[SPEAKER_00]: CEO of like some cosmetics brand and so her father has a part in the college in the second episode where he becomes an important figure in the college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the college itself of Hillman is kind of in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, they have lost some money and they have, you know, they're not the funding and there may be some
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[SPEAKER_00]: crimes going on with their money situation and and so DeBora is kind of the the person you're not unlike, by the way, if you remember the early different world episodes, not unlike the Denise Huxtable character who was like laundry, do I have to do laundry, you know, like that kind of thing, like oh roommates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not every roommate is going to like me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Jalisa, you are older than me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have a child, like how do I fit into this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Jabora Wayne character, a little similar to, I would say, the Denise Huxstable character from the early season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's also the, there's also her relationship with Shaquille.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They seem to have been on and off in the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and so that is part of the first two episodes and Shaquille as the football star gets in some ruckus with the other quarterback and he gains the starting role after they get in a little bit of a fight and so so far like I'm locked in I don't know that like I feel like have you seen the show
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Taydigs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Taydigs plays a successful former NFL player, and now he's coaching the high school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so again,
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[SPEAKER_00]: very well off family he has a Caucasian wife and they have twin uh daughter and son who are in high school and the the main character in the show um is from a past relationship Tay Diggs dated somebody who had a son and that son needs help so he brings the son into their
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's what this show reminded me about a little bit was all American and I love I would say the first two seasons of all American are amazing like they're in the slightly more soap opera-ish cliff-hangery kind of show but predominantly black cast like very into the culture like because
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're, they're, it's kind of set in Compton, but also set in Beverly Hills kind of like like that kind of, you know, balance of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way that they did different world, reminded of that, however, the difference is as different world is still set in the landscape of like a 30 minute time frame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's there is the sitcomy aspect of it, but it doesn't go all the way with the sitcom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is more like a little bit more like a soap opera kind of show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like this interesting mix, and I was wondering, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: can shows like this exists in this format.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like does this get green lit for a second season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I would imagine this thing is probably kind of expensive to put together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I want to see four seasons of this thing, but can it exist in this format do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think if the ratings are good, you know, what is a rating on a streaming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, you know, I would hope that it gets more than one season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is a very large ensemble cast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's got to get paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're shooting on location at age.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the difference, you know, and I watched an interview with some of the new cast where they talked about one of the big differences between this show and OG show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is that the OG show was shot on like a soundstage in LA, whereas this show is shot on location at actual HPC use.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's certainly more expensive to put together the new show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but I based on what I've seen so far, it does feel like
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're putting together a good narrative and some good stories and the actors are good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm hoping that people tune in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had to tell a couple of my friends, hey, look, this thing is on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't necessarily know that the PR machine is doing the best job possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's also the question, you know, one thing that really interested me is, you know, the OG different world characters are all,
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[SPEAKER_01]: 7, 8, 9, 10 years older than I am now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So late 50s, probably like 60-ish and the younger characters on a different world are in their early to mid 20s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how much does 50-year-old Mike want to watch a show that really centers on 22-year-olds people?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we're like the relational aspect, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the parts of the episodes that I watched where I did kind of drop out were where things felt like got a little too Gen Z.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just like I can't relate to any of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it'll be interesting to see how they gain a new gain the younger audience of the younger cast while still retaining the audience of the original show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think that'll be a really interesting like needle to
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[SPEAKER_00]: Needle to three you know what you just explained though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just explained something we talked about on our SZA episode which is the reason why the Luther song for SZA and Kendrick worked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's cuz right bringing in Audiences and your kind ear you're bringing in the old school in the new school and you're kind of meeting in the middle with this song and My hope is that this show does the same thing now
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[SPEAKER_00]: kids don't watch television in the same way as we did you know we knew you and I probably watched every popular sitcom that was on you know when we were like 11 years old like we probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and if we could stay up, maybe we even watch nightcourt, but sometimes nightcourt will be a little too tired to watch nightcourt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, we so people don't watch TV the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is really a point like you got a log in and Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to press the thing on the different world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Different world is still shoot or Netflix is still shooting the old version of a different world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it kind of makes me want to watch that as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when it came on Netflix, I watched like the first like two or three episodes just to kind of remember Lisa Bonet and and Marisa to me, you know on that show But my hope is that it can help kind of meet in the middle and a show like this the problem I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: is Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Netflix tries to make shows for the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this show is not really going to be in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think as far as I've seen so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that might be my biggest worry for whether or not it picks up steam, but I think you're in a quality aspect of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the way that they have put it together so far has been very impressive and I'm gonna I'll finish out the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know when I'll get to it, but I wanted to watch the first two episodes so you and I could talk about it, but I do want to get through the rest of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hopeful that they can get another run and you know do a few of these because
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know not not that we need shows that preach about certain things going on in this world but at the same time we need shows that preach about certain things that go on in this world and I would love to understand what these young 20s at an HBCU think about
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[SPEAKER_00]: The president and think about, you know, where these things are going, think about these different, you know, views that people have on on stuff and, and like you, I don't necessarily vibe with the, the Gen Zers though, I do have young children around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have children.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, I also know that these young people are going to be the ones that are going to be making decisions in the next 20 years, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of hope that they're on the right path instead of, you know, folks like and I don't mean to use this person's name in vain in any way, but like a Charlie Kirk like that person resonated with younger people on that side and I was like yall are being steered in like an insane direction like, yeah, you know, we need to you need to hear some other voices here and subconscious this one dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, all right, I'm off my soapbox.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, you know, and the two episodes that I watched definitely touch on, you know, where we are now in society, they touched on lightly on on politics and obviously with the cut back and funding that Hillman is like all of that stuff ties into the moment we're at right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the second episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's really centered around the class that Freddie is teaching on where she's teaching Bell Hooks and talking about, you know, love and, you know, there is a gay character on the show, although I don't think in the two episodes that we watch, this person has not, it's been implied, but this person has not fully outed themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it, you know, there will be, I think as we continue to watch, I think the show will touch on some things and I hope it does because again that that's part of what made the original show as good as it was it's that it touched on stuff that was, you know, that young people were thinking about at the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at a crease summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The librarian at Abadela Mentory and teaching at Hillman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go on with your crease.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy, crazy, busy woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check in with the different world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were a favorite of the sitcom like we were, I think you will be happy to see the familiar faces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and hopefully the show does get some runs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So these young actors, you know, can can build their own different world that we got to see when we were younger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's Jasmine and make another record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can she do like Whitley voice on one of the songs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, I have her rapping in Whitley with exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Mike, I'm double G, we will see you when we see you piece out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike and I are back with the cool check-in, and we are checking in on the 39 year old reboot of a show that we watched for the new we were youngsters, we were kids, a different world, it's back, it's back, I wanted to actually go back a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of this is just, I actually all of it is just my memory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't I've not done a origin story of the original different world all I remember is
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lisa Bonet was kind of becoming a bigger than her character of Denise Huckstable, like maybe more popular than they realized she was going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She also maybe was a little bit more ram bunkest than the other Cosby, the other Huckstables.
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[SPEAKER_00]: rambunctions is a very good word and uh... you know she she would go on to do some things in her career that i'm sure bill casby did not want her to do
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's really what I remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, man, Lisa Bonet is such a powerhouse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's going to be like a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they spin off this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last episode of her on the actual Cosby show before a different world is her leaving the house and choosing Hillman and looking back at the Huxibal house and then we move on to a different world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, she does not last on that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She lasts one season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Marisa Tome is on that show, obviously Don Lewis, Jasmine Guy, Kadeem Hardison, those were the the big players in that first season and it becomes like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: something outside of Denise and I was found that to be really interesting because I just had assumed that when Denise's gone like this show's kind of done but actually it actually grows beyond what it was now I'm sure if we go back and look at the ratings just because of how TV worked maybe that first season was the highest rated season or whatever but that show was
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[SPEAKER_00]: cliff and Claire and Rudy doing cameos right because that was always the hook because like oh it's in this like Cosby show universe like hillman But it like it sticks around for a long time and it actually kicks off careers of Jadapinkets jad the now jadapinkets Smith a two-pox was it in an episode like you and it covered themes that
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[SPEAKER_00]: The cause we show sometimes would cover like you would see it every once in a while, but they lean more into it because it's a younger part, it's a college show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always, I always loved the, I loved the aspect of, hey, this is young people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, people who were a little bit older than us at that time, but still something that we could kind of look up to now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not comparing it for this reason, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Beverly Hills, 902, I know, was like as old as me, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every character was in the same grade or maybe one grade up of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, oh, I'm kind of growing through this show with these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But a different world, they were older than us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was almost like, oh, this is kind of cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what college possibly could be like, though, you know, I wasn't going to go to an HBCU necessarily, but like that aspect of like, oh, this is actually, this makes me look forward to college in a way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just found I found that to be interesting and then the show is successful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It turns into a Dwayne Wayne and Whitley Gilbert show as it ages up and then they reboot it third and years later and the main protagonist is the daughter of Whitley and Dwayne and Whitley and Dwayne.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Daborah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, not Daborah, Daborah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Daborah Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a different world really was like the only show on television at the time, that portrayed college life in any facet, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, irrespective of the fact that it was an HBCU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there were no other college related shows on TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the time, when you and I, like the contemporary shows for us would have been something like Lantern 210 or saved by the bell, you know, those folks were all about the same ages us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the folks that had different worlds were maybe five or six years older.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're in, you know, eighth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade, ninth grade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And seeing these people who were would have been like our older brothers and sisters, you know, having their experience of going to school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lisa Bonay leaving the show and she left the show because she got pregnant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine that bill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Young woman gets pregnant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, come on man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Bill kind of wrote her off her, you know, took her back from the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that gave them a chance to like retool the show and make it more of
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they brought in Debbie Allen as like a producer and consultant and you know, it's funny because one thing I didn't realize at the time, but is obvious is that Debbie Allen and Felicia Rashad are sisters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Bill just kind of pulled somebody else in from the family and they.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe Debbie Allen graduated from Howard and, you know, made it made retooled to show added some characters, you know, wrote Marissa told me out of the character, I don't know that it fully made sense for Denise to have a white roommate at an HBCU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and made it I think a little bit more authentic and made it more real and there were shows that dealt with, you know, like I remember there was a show that dealt with like Kimberly getting date rate There was a show where T. She Campbell was like a guest star and she was someone living with HIV
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think that ended up giving it legs, but yeah, here we are, you know, almost 40 years after the premiere and they brought a different world back and it's sort of a new generation of kids in college and they also brought back a lot of the original cast or the cast from sort of like the second post Lisa Bonet at the show now Lisa was pregnant with Zoe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She needs to show up on this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it gets a second season, I feel like there really should be a hoxstable on the new version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can't just write out the fact that
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this show was a spin-off of the Cosby show, you know, unfortunately Malcolm's no longer with us Malcolm would have been on this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm saying my get-tempo's blood so get Keeshinite Polium get, you know, like somebody on this show just sort of like represent the lineage of where the show came from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Bill still gets a giant piece of the show, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bill created the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got to get some back-end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you mentioned Debbie Allen, you think she thinks as fondly of Bill as Felicia seems to think of, I mean, it's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I look, Bill gave Felicia Rashard a huge
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Felicia Rashad has been on team bill to the disappointment of a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say Malcolm to before he passed away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Malcolm was very kind of agnostic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, when you go on, I mean, he was on Quest Love Supreme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is this is really my, you know, where I'm getting this information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he would continue to call him Mr. Cosby and when I hear that that seems to me like
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[SPEAKER_00]: there was some demand going on in that world where he wasn't built anybody he was he had to be called this thing and so they're still using that terminology even though this dude is you know in trouble and such and had done some terrible things but like I didn't get the sense that Malcolm was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, after this guy like he did all these bad things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the idea that he was like, I have to be very careful about what I say because of who I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I am not down the middle, I'm going to get it from both sides and I'm just going to stay in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and it's like, how do you hold the truth?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, when you, when someone in your family and, you know, God forbid this ever happens to you or anybody who's listening, but I'm sure it has happened to people who are listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When somebody in your family commits a crime or gets convicted of a crime and goes to jail, like, if that happens to your dad or your mama, your uncle or your cousin, they're still your dad or your mama, your uncle, your cousin,
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[SPEAKER_01]: like the person you love or the person that gave you your career or like the person that you work with or whatever it is and you also have to hold the idea that this person that you care so much about that you love so much did that things and that's like some hardship to carry and then like when there's a public person involved
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[SPEAKER_01]: people are going to be looking for you for the headline and you're going to try to like rope you into saying something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think Malcolm did a really good job of kind of not saying anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas, you know, I think Lisa, um, I mean, you know, I mean, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: has not said anything like straight out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I certainly uh uh vocalized effect that her experience with Bill was not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I I sort of feel like she was like see if y'all just had listened to me a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think she did but she did it in like a very uh diplomatic way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, this isn't about Malcolm, but it's kind of sucks to see what's going on with his estate right now with the life and his mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a buffer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So getting back to this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the people who have come back,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Whitley, you know, I feel like 40 years later, Whitley would be a little bit more sophisticated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not sophisticated, a little bit more like, okay, maybe I maybe I was a little bit too tight in the ass when I was younger, but nope, still tight in the ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has not gotten any less tight in the ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dwayne Wayne is back, uh, Kdim, he has a big role in the show, Darrell and Bell as Ron Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is the high, the five star recruit, Shaquille, and they didn't name this in the first two episodes, but I kind of looked it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is Shaquille's mom supposed to be?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you look this up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at the end of the second episode, I don't want to give too much away, but Shaquille has a picture and it's a Ron Johnson
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't remember how Lee Berry being on a different world, but I guess she was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess she was maybe as one of the women who dated Ronda.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess they, in the fictional world of Hillman, they got married and have a kid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no shots at Daryl and Bell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very memorable character on this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How, if Daryl and Bell,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is a six and a half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Halle Berry's like a 25.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm just saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Darrell is maybe the closest thing to a line to the original show that we had because I think him in tempest had been together for like 30 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good for them, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Chris summer is back as Freddie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a professor and Jennifer Lewis is Dean Davenport, but as far as I know, she's only in the first episode because she gets the boot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I'm watching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk with the first two episodes, so if you don't want to hear about this, I would say pause, go watch the first two episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're on Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 30 minutes long, very easy watches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very good watches though, I thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then come back because we'll spoil some stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been watching, I never caught blackish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: during it's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Blackish was so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got a crystal and I are through gosh, maybe season four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Jennifer Lewis is all over that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tremendous character, but blackish is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some people are a little bit like, is it too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: too much about, you know, it's always the white man's fault kind of thing, you know, which is which is part of that show and part of the experience, I like it because I grew up on good times and stuff like that where yeah, this is just his fault of the white man, but like I enjoy that show so much and I laugh at that stuff, but you know, it's in 2026, you know, the world that we're living in, I could see how people
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[SPEAKER_00]: could get offended at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, people are going to get offended no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and blackish, I don't think blackish was ever really a show where it's like white people, you know, there are some issues in which blackness and its proximity to whiteness are explored, but at the end of the day, it's a family sitcom about, you know, two, a very successful black
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[SPEAKER_01]: as I think a lot of black folks do like where they fit in the world with their success in relation to their identity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and they're also like raising three kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So more there's more there's like five kids in that family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the end of it, there are more than three kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They started out with, well, they started out with four four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then it ended up being five, uh, but um, you know, it's just like, it's a very, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more complex than just, you know, kind of like the overarching theme of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not done with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had to put it on hold to watch some other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Jennifer Lewis, you know, Jennifer Lewis, I think is just like a force of nature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have read her books, you know, she was on a different world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was on fresh prints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was on living single.
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[SPEAKER_01]: she, you know, has been on so many classic TV shows and is just like this force.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to Jennifer Lewis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She looks exactly the same too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's saying she does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, don't look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don Lewis is back as Jelisa Glinds Jelisa Glinterman as Colonel Bradford Taylor is there in memory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... he is uh... you see a picture around jadepink at smith i have not gotten to the don't lose glinter uh... and and jadepink glinter man is back lies in the first of person oh is he or no he's in later episodes kernel tip not kernel killer um... i would get the name of the character uh... who uh... ran the pit
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like the cook, my man is still alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Glent Hermann is still alive, which is crazy because he's got to be like 90.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My man was hanging out with Cochi, so is he still alive?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still alive, you know, he's lived his life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think he appears later in the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the new generation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So DeBora Wayne is played and I'm going to screw up the pronunciation because I don't know any of these youngsters, but they're great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm like these actors are great Malaya Joy Moon as DeBora Wayne.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's the daughter of Whitley in and Dwayne.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but there's a there's like a separation going on with them in the beginning uh... rishita who's my favorite character early on rishita's mom kind of gave me a little bit of hope that you know maybe we get some martin alumni on this show
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get cold, blue, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red, get red,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to sheena does appear in one episode in the first episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's on the FaceTime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: From the phone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, a bunch of other characters in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they do a really good job of kind of keeping all of the characters involved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like every like there's so many of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they, you know, they do a good job of keeping them all in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a mere is played by a young actor by the name of Jordan Aaron Hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this of any relation to the other Aaron Hall probably the Hall brothers I don't think so okay I just I don't think kind of interesting that he goes by the middle name name well and the name is Aaron Hall, but interesting yeah good character really good character and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, I'm always impressed by this dude and we've already talked about him from his music perspective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Method man is the football coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This dude has become a really, really good actor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I can't believe it, you know, like not to say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he, you know, he was doing the stuff with red man and they were doing movies and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was along, it was kind of like, you know, Friday kind of movies, comedy movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But ice cube himself, you know, before he became the actor that he is today, I think people thought ice cube had chops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and ice cube now does more of like the family in the comedy and like the less important kind of roles, but method man is like beef and his game up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just so impressed by method man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so those are those are most of the, you know, and again, a lot of really young people in the show, you really smart choices with with the characters, just well-rounded characters, the cast strong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first two episodes are about DeBora Wayne is the dot, not dissimilar from what we just talked about with Blackish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She comes from a very well together family and she has to be on her own and that is not easy for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's used to having things done for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's used to being
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[SPEAKER_00]: CEO of like some cosmetics brand and so her father has a part in the college in the second episode where he becomes an important figure in the college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the college itself of Hillman is kind of in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, they have lost some money and they have, you know, they're not the funding and there may be some
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[SPEAKER_00]: crimes going on with their money situation and and so DeBora is kind of the the person you're not unlike, by the way, if you remember the early different world episodes, not unlike the Denise Huxtable character who was like laundry, do I have to do laundry, you know, like that kind of thing, like oh roommates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not every roommate is going to like me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Jalisa, you are older than me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have a child, like how do I fit into this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Jabora Wayne character, a little similar to, I would say, the Denise Huxstable character from the early season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's also the, there's also her relationship with Shaquille.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They seem to have been on and off in the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and so that is part of the first two episodes and Shaquille as the football star gets in some ruckus with the other quarterback and he gains the starting role after they get in a little bit of a fight and so so far like I'm locked in I don't know that like I feel like have you seen the show
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Taydigs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Taydigs plays a successful former NFL player, and now he's coaching the high school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so again,
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[SPEAKER_00]: very well off family he has a Caucasian wife and they have twin uh daughter and son who are in high school and the the main character in the show um is from a past relationship Tay Diggs dated somebody who had a son and that son needs help so he brings the son into their
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's what this show reminded me about a little bit was all American and I love I would say the first two seasons of all American are amazing like they're in the slightly more soap opera-ish cliff-hangery kind of show but predominantly black cast like very into the culture like because
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're, they're, it's kind of set in Compton, but also set in Beverly Hills kind of like like that kind of, you know, balance of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way that they did different world, reminded of that, however, the difference is as different world is still set in the landscape of like a 30 minute time frame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's there is the sitcomy aspect of it, but it doesn't go all the way with the sitcom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is more like a little bit more like a soap opera kind of show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like this interesting mix, and I was wondering, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: can shows like this exists in this format.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like does this get green lit for a second season?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I would imagine this thing is probably kind of expensive to put together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I want to see four seasons of this thing, but can it exist in this format do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think if the ratings are good, you know, what is a rating on a streaming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, you know, I would hope that it gets more than one season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is a very large ensemble cast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's got to get paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're shooting on location at age.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the difference, you know, and I watched an interview with some of the new cast where they talked about one of the big differences between this show and OG show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is that the OG show was shot on like a soundstage in LA, whereas this show is shot on location at actual HPC use.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's certainly more expensive to put together the new show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but I based on what I've seen so far, it does feel like
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're putting together a good narrative and some good stories and the actors are good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm hoping that people tune in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had to tell a couple of my friends, hey, look, this thing is on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't necessarily know that the PR machine is doing the best job possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's also the question, you know, one thing that really interested me is, you know, the OG different world characters are all,
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[SPEAKER_01]: 7, 8, 9, 10 years older than I am now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So late 50s, probably like 60-ish and the younger characters on a different world are in their early to mid 20s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how much does 50-year-old Mike want to watch a show that really centers on 22-year-olds people?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we're like the relational aspect, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the parts of the episodes that I watched where I did kind of drop out were where things felt like got a little too Gen Z.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just like I can't relate to any of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it'll be interesting to see how they gain a new gain the younger audience of the younger cast while still retaining the audience of the original show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think that'll be a really interesting like needle to
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[SPEAKER_00]: Needle to three you know what you just explained though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just explained something we talked about on our SZA episode which is the reason why the Luther song for SZA and Kendrick worked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's cuz right bringing in Audiences and your kind ear you're bringing in the old school in the new school and you're kind of meeting in the middle with this song and My hope is that this show does the same thing now
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[SPEAKER_00]: kids don't watch television in the same way as we did you know we knew you and I probably watched every popular sitcom that was on you know when we were like 11 years old like we probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and if we could stay up, maybe we even watch nightcourt, but sometimes nightcourt will be a little too tired to watch nightcourt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, we so people don't watch TV the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is really a point like you got a log in and Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to press the thing on the different world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Different world is still shoot or Netflix is still shooting the old version of a different world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it kind of makes me want to watch that as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when it came on Netflix, I watched like the first like two or three episodes just to kind of remember Lisa Bonet and and Marisa to me, you know on that show But my hope is that it can help kind of meet in the middle and a show like this the problem I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: is Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Netflix tries to make shows for the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this show is not really going to be in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think as far as I've seen so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that might be my biggest worry for whether or not it picks up steam, but I think you're in a quality aspect of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the way that they have put it together so far has been very impressive and I'm gonna I'll finish out the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know when I'll get to it, but I wanted to watch the first two episodes so you and I could talk about it, but I do want to get through the rest of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hopeful that they can get another run and you know do a few of these because
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know not not that we need shows that preach about certain things going on in this world but at the same time we need shows that preach about certain things that go on in this world and I would love to understand what these young 20s at an HBCU think about
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[SPEAKER_00]: The president and think about, you know, where these things are going, think about these different, you know, views that people have on on stuff and, and like you, I don't necessarily vibe with the, the Gen Zers though, I do have young children around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have children.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, I also know that these young people are going to be the ones that are going to be making decisions in the next 20 years, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of hope that they're on the right path instead of, you know, folks like and I don't mean to use this person's name in vain in any way, but like a Charlie Kirk like that person resonated with younger people on that side and I was like yall are being steered in like an insane direction like, yeah, you know, we need to you need to hear some other voices here and subconscious this one dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, all right, I'm off my soapbox.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, you know, and the two episodes that I watched definitely touch on, you know, where we are now in society, they touched on lightly on on politics and obviously with the cut back and funding that Hillman is like all of that stuff ties into the moment we're at right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the second episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's really centered around the class that Freddie is teaching on where she's teaching Bell Hooks and talking about, you know, love and, you know, there is a gay character on the show, although I don't think in the two episodes that we watch, this person has not, it's been implied, but this person has not fully outed themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it, you know, there will be, I think as we continue to watch, I think the show will touch on some things and I hope it does because again that that's part of what made the original show as good as it was it's that it touched on stuff that was, you know, that young people were thinking about at the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at a crease summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The librarian at Abadela Mentory and teaching at Hillman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go on with your crease.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy, crazy, busy woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check in with the different world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were a favorite of the sitcom like we were, I think you will be happy to see the familiar faces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and hopefully the show does get some runs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So these young actors, you know, can can build their own different world that we got to see when we were younger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's Jasmine and make another record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can she do like Whitley voice on one of the songs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, I have her rapping in Whitley with exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Mike, I'm double G, we will see you when we see you piece out.