Is Bruno Mars Growing? The Romantic Review & 2026 R&R HOF Nominees | The Cool Check-In

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike, we are at the beginning of what I am calling Bruno week on 50.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know a week, but aren't we supposed to not talk about Bruno, that, you know what that song reminds me of the pandemic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God, I'm stuck in our houses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what it all said anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what it all so reminds me of, because everyone was stuck in their houses and because

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're just trying to be creative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of famous people would just do these Instagram reels and just with that line, we don't talk about Bruno.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the one that I remember the most is Hillary Duff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, she's, I'll use, I'll use my guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Copyright Van Lathen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's in the White Girl Hall of Fame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hillary is so attractive, um, but so she, she did that, you know, that, that Instagram reel as well for we don't talk about Bruno and I just saw that she's got a new album out, like she has a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got a new album out and she's got

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was in a TV show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, I forget the channel that it was on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was actually, it's actually pretty interesting show where the protagonist is an older mom and her age works against her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she dresses and plays young to get back into the book industry and then the book industry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: physical books, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But and Hillary Dough was like the marketing person at this company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's actually pretty good show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I missed Hillary Dough entirely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, but there's like apparently younger millennial women,

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[SPEAKER_00]: like she's like got all mighty we were playing we were at work and like so yesterday one of those songs came on and I look over and there's like a trio of 26-year-old girl singing along and like dancing and I'm like oh that's what the nostalgia feels out for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the hard part of putting her in the white girl Hall of Fame is I also remember which she looked like him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a little kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can envision the adult version of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's, you know, it's like talking about Janet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you remember Penny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you remember the Titi on a Super Bowl, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: We grew up with Janet though when we were teenagers, she was an adult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's very true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this isn't about Hillary, tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those shots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hillary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Bruno week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to talk about the romantic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The new Bruno Mars album, and we did a YouTube short and Instagram reel when that first teaser single came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When Jean is not the best song in the album, thankfully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it is on the album, and I was actually kind of interested in what you thought about the growth because one thing that we've talked about over the years is how artists,

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[SPEAKER_01]: who seem to age the best, they kind of grow with their audience instead of chasing hits like some of usher's best stuff is when you're like, okay, this is what a 25 year old man or a 30 year old man should be singing about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden he does an album and it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you like chasing paparadio for like your girl and that's man?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I get it because you got to sell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to create some interest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to get on the radio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or you used to have to get on the radio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what are you thinking about the growth of Bruno here as an artist with this, you know, it's a love song's album, essentially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, Bruno is very much in his lane and, you know, like the song with rosé,

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[SPEAKER_00]: was different for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't go in that route for this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is very much a continuation of 24k magic or the silksonic album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I thought was a little bit more closely to is the silksonic album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where it's like very 70s and 80s are

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[SPEAKER_00]: real instruments like I it's enjoyable is definitely not groundbreaking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is pretty much exactly what you thought Bruno Mars record was going to sound like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is I think it's why I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he could have been super inventive and gone in a different direction, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's what he'll do the next time because I think if people

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[SPEAKER_01]: who have listened to this are criticizing a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that, okay, there's no real evolution of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't have to, you don't have to evolve if you know what your pocket is and you stay in that pocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I completely agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, going back to this like, is this what a adult, you know, leaning into middle-age Bruno Mars is supposed to sound like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes, I mean, the lyrics could probably be a little bit more mature, but also Bruno Mars isn't the average 40 year old guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's Bruno Mars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Bruno Mars is probably doing a lot more young shit than we were doing at 40.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was still, I was divorced and getting back out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might have been doing a little bit too much young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually wasn't doing a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe when I was in like my early 30s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first single, I think this is technically the first single, which is risk at all, has like some like mariachi style to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I first heard it, I was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like this, he's trying to recreate like ribbon in the sky with like some, you know, some influence, you know, some Latin influence or something, but I think it's a really, it's a really strong song, the video is cute as hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, this is what like if Selena was still alive, like this is like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bruno Mars, you know, and Selena on the same song, this could have been something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she'd be happy with the next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, completely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, it's really funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I listened to that, this album, the name that I came away with was Lionel Richie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, which is the thing that we talked about in the line, like actually, you will hear that in the Bruno episode, which comes out the 50 for 50 episode, it comes out because I think I flat out asked you if, you know, if the comparison is Lionel Richie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the comparison at this point is Lionel Richie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he Bruno knows how to write a song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like in the very classic like write a strong song from top to bottom, have it be catchy and hooky and memorable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Bruno has that rock to probably better than anybody else does at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, so if that's the case, does he have to be inventive?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not really because all of these songs are made to like be on a radio forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he probably will be on a radio forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think risk it all is it's probably going to make its waves through the streams, the charts, or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just a very smart lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's safe, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like it's a pretty safe song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when I was talking to folks, that was the one that they, they were like, that's the one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, that's my favorite song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's definitely my favorite song on the album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna end up being a wedding song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, is there any, what are some of the other?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Cha Cha Cha is also a very similar to risk it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now again, this is, this is some research I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you hear Juvenile's slow motion in this song?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's this is what my research says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cha cha cha interpolates Juvenile's 2003 hit slow motion over a Cuban Mambo inspired groove.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he probably says one line for this song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not an interpolation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of all the songs to be inspired by, even else slow motion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least it's not back that ass up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be better, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, the one thing that's so different about albums when they drop today versus when you and I were like talking about music a lot in writing music reviews is, you know, album drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: we would listen to it on our computer, we would listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, it would be driving on my commute up to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'd have it with you on your disc man while you're commuting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And today, I don't know that I necessarily listen to music in that same way where I'm like, I need to get some sort of opinion on this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I need to have my very well thought out

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[SPEAKER_01]: thesis statement on this album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we used to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We used to do that and I love that I don't have to listen to music like that anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it feels like now the rest of the world is hot take world and I don't think music

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the best music is made for hot takes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the best music is stuff that you guys sit with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And explore the lyrics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do what we were talking about earlier, like sitting a room along with the album and actually like, let it sink in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that back in the day when we're doing this, we're doing it because we got paid to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of the little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think a lot of folks how they do it, do it because they get, you know, because of the clicks or the money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I will, I will, I will zag a little bit because I'm actually in your thoughts on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, how we used to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: we would get multiple listens in doing it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After this conversation, how many times are you going back to this Bruno album?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just for fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'll skip around you a couple of times, probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually just got the CD in the mail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I was thinking about the CD in play it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there were a couple of songs I like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the why you want to fight song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what it's called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really like risk at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think something serious is the one that has kind of like a Santana vibe to it or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll give it another listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the reality is Bruno Bruno's albums are all very short, yeah, all like 9 or 10 songs, even a subsonic album, I think is 10 songs, yeah, um, so it'll be a quick listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, like the songs are catchy, um, it just, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't even know what I was expecting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I had somewhere, I had it in me that it was going to sound different, but it just sounds like a Bruno Mars album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There isn't eventizing of albums now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like during the the era of where we would have to physically go to stores and buy CDs it almost felt bigger because we were we had to go do something to get it instead of just turn on the bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think for me, there are less, there's less artists with new music that come out to where I'm like, oh, I'm so excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to listen to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bruno Mars is one of the few who will get me to the computer to listen to something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Jay Z drops a new album, I will probably feel similar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're kind of talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He put dead presidents on on streaming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which means that probably reasonable doubt is coming to streaming at some point because what is this the 30th anniversary of Yeah, a reasonable doubt and then of course whenever that whenever Jay does something out of the ordinary people just think oh He's got some new album coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't heard anything since 44 44 Which was which was great for a 50 year old Jay Z or however he was when he recorded that

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that like to get me to go, okay, let me put a pause on kind of what I do every day and then go out of my way to listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did that for this album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that feeling, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what other artists, yeah, what artists like John mayor comes out the new album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you don't do that same thing anymore just because the way that people consume music is different, but also a lot of the artists we used to do that for our either retired or dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's sad to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like now some of this is we're not just going to give Rando's new folks a chance because, you know, like my, um, my stepson was like, do you like this song?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I listened to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: My man didn't wrap a word outside of one and a half syllable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the answer is no, you know, my man, do you not want to say what it was?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly can't remember what we don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he likes the vibe of it and the way it makes him Bob his head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I played Scrabble against the student, I'm whipping his ass because every, every, you know, every word is a, is a three letter word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's, it's so good about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just the differences in what we grew up on where the genre and I'm specifically talking about hip hop where the genre is now with the new artists and, you know, what really resonates with with the youth like, you know, I'm sure if there was a new rock him who came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it would be excellent in a specific way to where it would create awareness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But outside of some fantastic thing like that, I'm not sure how I would even know that it came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like who would tell me that there's this new hip-hop album that came out from an artist that I've never heard before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I need to listen to it because it is like the next thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I mean, I have friends to try to keep me plugged in this stuff, but the reality at this point with hip hop specifically is that like if you're under 35, you're probably not saying anything that I'm remotely interested in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I'm not holding out a ton of hope that there's going to be like a young rock him like person who is going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It made me change my mind about this generation of hip-hop, but it would be great if there was, but I'm feel pretty confident that if there was, I have enough people in the streets as it were, that would be like, Mike, you should check this guy, or girl is dope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm even trying to figure out who would have been like, I guess Dochi, yeah, I mean, I think Dochi's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like super nuts about Dochi,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm even trying to think of who is out there, who I would think, who is wrapping today, who doesn't have a catalog that I grew up on, who I'd be interested in listening to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, for me, you know, I didn't grow up on Kendrick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, obviously he's significant the younger than we are not that much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that much younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's nine years younger than we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not that much younger than we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my, my, my, we're doing 50 for 50 in Kendrick is about to do 41 for 41 right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you know, K diet, rap city, rap city would be one where I remember my buddy saying you need to check this out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Rhapsody is dope, um, but yeah, I mean, if unless it's, and again, you know, Kendrick's 41, Rhapsody, I think is in her late 30s, like, you know, these are still kind of like more mature people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know what else sucks, though?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are people who we grew up listening to, who have kind of turned me off in a different way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was sure, I was never a big ice

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when my man starts one plus one on Donald Trump stuff, I'm like, dude, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm off team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I ask you, I mean, I did just watch voice in the hood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've seen bits and pieces of boys in the hood, but I've never seen it all the way through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like he's like a budding, like you can see why he became a movie star from boys in the head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like when I see like him or Snoop, you know, you know, you know, kind of all the things that at least they said that they stood for when we were growing up that meant something to us and then they got rich and now it's completely different about what what they stand up for is like such a turn off and it's kind of frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not like I was their biggest fan anyway, right if like Q-tip all of a sudden was wearing a maga hat it would I'd probably break my heart So he's been I don't think and you know, I think we chose him correctly and wisely But yeah, like these other guys like Dr. Dre and like hmm

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what's all people who, like, they got their money and they don't give two shifts about anybody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and, you know, also, not to jump on a soap box, but so much of that hip hop in that period was just like exploitative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't really like, yeah, they're telling you about what's happening in the hood and what's happening in the street, but it's not like, hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we, what do we do about this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, oh, like, there, you know, almost like, again, like it's exploitative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not guaranteed, it's not geared to like help anything or really even as spread awareness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just to be like, you know, to sort of spread it around and roll around for your own financial game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'd give Bruno, I'd definitely give it a thumbs up because I got me to listen to it like three or four different times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got like a thumbs up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to give it a couple more lessons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know what that reminded me of?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you just did right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The weird alphabet video?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or he's asking Michael.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's asking Michael to, if he can make the, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's like the fake Michael with the glove and he just does the thumbs up and thumbs down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those weird out videos were always on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were they were they were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's talk quickly about the twenty twenty six nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I will read them out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you know about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame way more than I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you you tell me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many people make it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there is a maximum or a minimum or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I will give the list and then you can give me your feedback on the list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The black crow's Jeff Buckley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mariah Carey, Phil Collins, Melissa Ethridge, Lauren Hill, Billy Idol in excess Iron Maiden, Joy Division slash new order,

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the Wu-Tang clan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really interesting list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really diverse list, which I think is what they were going for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The two names that I was surprised to see on that list were Lauren Hill and Pink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously we've talked about Lauren quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure how Lauren gets in, essentially off of one album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At this conversation, and I'm actually interested in your feedback here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: My oldest, he was asking me about Badu and Jill Scott, and he was like, you know, I listen to their catalogs and I'm going back to the record and they're like, you know, actually he's like, I like Jill Scott's music better than Badu's music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what I didn't realize is the reason why he went back is because Jill Scott has a brand new album and he wanted to kind of catch up on Jill Scott.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, his favorite music style right now is kind of this like new neo-soul style of R&B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's listening to all of those artists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if I asked him, what do you think about somebody in that genre?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would know, because he listens to all folks in that genre.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, who would you compare who's today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who was out there that would be comparable to those artists?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was telling me about some of the new artists that are out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, is there anybody like Lauren?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, nope, she's the one on one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's unicorn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nobody who could touch her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so then I kind of posed this to another friend, who's a big music fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, the reason why I would vote for Lauren,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is because Billie Eidle has so many albums and so many songs and Lauren has one and that album is more influential than all the Billie Eidle's songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Agreed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that is the argument for her because I went back to him and I said, well, she's got one album like how do you build a Hall of Fame career?

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[SPEAKER_01]: off of one album because the longevity piece of it is missing as a solo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's more arguable that the foodies go in versus her as a solo, the foodies only have a couple records themselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they don't have two albums.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what would it like, I get that part for Lauren, I guess I just don't like if this was like a baseball Hall of Fame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have one hit wonders in sports too, part of what makes a Hall of Fame career is the longevity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't know how much of Lauren still touring today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much of the people who saw her Grammys performance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're like, oh my god, give me more Lauren right now, because that was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what's on paper, what she can put on her resume is the misjudicational

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I get it, you know, or I shouldn't say I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she made essentially one album, but that one album changed music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what does the... You know, um, is there a comp for someone like her who's already in the music hall of fame?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There probably is, but I can't think of anyone off the top of my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How does it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There probably is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we know this woman has a lot of kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How does she, like, like, like, is the miseducation of Lauren Hill just essentially how she makes her, or is it the touring, like, how does she make her touring 2026?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's touring, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure she has like sponsorship deals or, you know, is one of those people who does like, the private concerts for like the King of Brunei and gets paid like $2 million for that, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure she has her ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she probably isn't really public about that shit now because she already got dinged for not paying a taxes and don't want to do that again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a bad that was a bad time for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the other artist you mentioned was pink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Think yeah, I mean just because

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you think of everybody who came out during that era, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So pink, insane, backstory, Britney, Christina, even usher to an extent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know that pink is the person that I see going in first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her thing is the opposite of what we just said about Lauren, is that she is still making new albums.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's still doing crazy tours and her actual live performance

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's freaking amazing, this woman works so hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to prepare for her concerts, the stuff that she does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like her life performance is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the better ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, whether you like pink music or not, like I like it, you know, crystals that's her favorite art.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, there's not like one thing that she's done that is comparable to Lauren, but it's the longevity piece of her being around since the late 90s and still making new music that sells as much as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And changing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Changing her style and and you know being versatile and all that other stuff she there was an article that said that she and her husband were separated And she jumped on IG live and she said nope don't be spread in those rumors You know, this is untrue So she's like if she's on top of her game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like if I was in a fight in a bar and pink was next to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: She would kick some ass and then she'd get the party started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, look, it's a great list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I...

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[SPEAKER_00]: would certainly be happier to see other people inducted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be more happy to see certain people on a system inducted than I would see other people on a system is getting inducted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they choose four to six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of these people are going to go home on happy to call it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's who's in?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think makes it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll talk about who you want to be in in a second, but who do you think actually makes it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who makes it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a good question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Mariah gets in this

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[SPEAKER_00]: Iron, they even wanted to get Iron Maiden in for a long time and I, you know, the rock fans need something to appease them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think Iron Maiden will get in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually think the audition might get in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think, you know, this might be their year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think sadly because he is ill, I think Phil Collins will get in this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like they did that with Tina and they did that with a couple of other artists where they like got them in right before they passed away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What what gets Luther in at this point?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, it could happen this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think between the documentary and Kendrick and Sisa like Luther's name is like at a very, you know, share thought more alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to wipe some of that from Maldahide on the share, but yeah, I mean, I, you know, if Sam cooks in Iraq or all of Fame, the bandro should be in Iraq or all of Fame, he is, you know, I think the defining male pop singer of Generation X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I'm hoping that, look,

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[SPEAKER_00]: My ideal would be for everybody to get in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why hold anyone?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, you need future years of this television show, which is what it's become.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, I think for TV optics, I think they almost have to push Mariah in this time, because she is probably the biggest name in this bunch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they want to deal with her on the TV show, though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it'll be entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, that would get me to watch if, if, if, okay, if Moriah and new edition get in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll talk about it because you have a crazy experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you go to the Rock and the Hall of Fame?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you be able to get a credential or something?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I take it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I will say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are two bands on this list that are associated with my day job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if either one of them gets in, I might be able to somehow for a navel ticket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they used to

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[SPEAKER_00]: run the show on tape delay on HBO, but now I think I do it live and it's not it's live on Disney plus yeah and then like a shortened version uh is on Hulu or ABC or whatever the next day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah because if I'm right new addition make it I will try and watch that thing like immediately that that'll be awesome and then you know the one artist we didn't talk about because it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: outside of Lauren.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so, it seems so hard for hip-hop acts to get in, like the Wu-Tang clan, like in a hip-hop polyphane, like they're like first ballot polyphamers, but in this kind of holophane, like where do they sit, you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they'll get in this

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think Wu Tang clan is better regarded for all the stuff that they did individually rather than what they did collectively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because essentially, after that first album, none of those other albums are really classics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: sure and they have lots of now this doesn't affect their group status, but they did have that thing that we had talked about like new addition where they figured out all how to create solo stuff and and do it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then they also have kind of that infamous story where they make that one album and they sell it to that whack job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, the weird billionaire dude

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of in legal legal overtake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably not that good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my, yes, but I'm guessing too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, but yeah, I mean, I, you know, I think Wu Tang is is, you know, legendary and deserving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how history is going to look at like their catalog outside of that first album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but also, you know, they changed the industry in a lot of ways and they brought that new addition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: four artists in one artist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this case, nine artists in one artist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They brought that aesthetic to hip hop and kind of changed the game that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they tried to bring those B level members as the affiliates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That didn't really work out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... all right we are we are done so hopefully people enjoy Bruno week we and oh by the way i might you can submit balance if you go to rockhall dot com you can do the fan vote and i think the fan vote uh... shouldn't count eight counts if you can you kind of alternate it's like half of an overall vote or something like that like it's super you know super tiny uh... did i've i've seen the results of far these these votes shouldn't count

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the basic people that vote?

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, in the fan vote are all of these like, middle American white people who are like, none of these bands are rock and roll.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they know where rock and roll music came from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aim from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I made the comparison between like Sam Cook and Luther Vantros or Carol King and Mariah Carey, you know, or like the drifters of the four tops of the temptations to new addition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's, there's a lineage there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're not the biggest Elvis fan, but I watched the new Baz Lerman Elvis concert movie documentary thing with all the unearth footage and there's some footage of Elvis being interviewed by the press and a lot of it was like, you know, a year style of rock and roll and blah, blah, blah, like do you feel guilty for like being negatively influenced and he's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys understand, we're rock and roll came from like it comes from the blues and rhythm and blues and this we are a derivative of that like so it's like not I haven't created a new sound like I am you know utilizing all of the templates from this other music and so you know people who will point to Elvis is like the rock and roll king and everything it's like he's like no this is where came from

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think Elvis, I mean, when you look back and actually do your research, Elvis was actually very good and, you know, woke in a very 1950s kind of way to really shout out the people that he was influenced by and try to give them a platform as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Contrary to some people's opinion that Elvis was a racist, which was apparently not the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even in our gut, even our gut chuckty had to back away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, chuckty walked that back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never, I never gave my ballot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I voted for Joy Division, Luther Vandroes, Mariah Carey, New Edition, Phil Collins, Shaday, and the Wu Tanclan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could vote.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that eight?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could vote up to eight?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bruno Mars we cover do ops and Hulligans and we cover his whole career, but we focus on that album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that album will come out after this, that podcast will come out after this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're changing the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We wanted to give you our thoughts on romantic for the romantic first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the 50 for 50 on do ops and Hulligans and then we'll end the week with our top five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Michael also bust out his playlists for Bruno Mars, which is a fun one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes indeed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For Mike, I'm WG, see you when we see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Out.