Bruno Mars: From Feature King to Doo-Wops & Hooligans | 50 For 50

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, like we are going to talk about an artist who is actually dropping new music in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we've tried to schedule this episode to come out around the time that this artist releases his new album, which is as of now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've seen marketing for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it's going to stay this title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The romantic Bruno Mars.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we talked about the first single I just might and I think you liked it a little bit better than I did, but it's solid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing wrong with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we put a YouTube short on our YouTube page if you want to check that out where we we kind of talked about it right as it dropped that week or that weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we're going to talk about 2010's DoWop in Hooligans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now in 2010, how old are we?

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[SPEAKER_02]: we are 34.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so heading towards around mid 30s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, much different than some of the other years that we've already discussed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we took a big jump.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where are you at this time and place in 2010?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where are you spiritually, musically, head space?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What can you remember about that time frame?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 2010, I was living in Boston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that would have come during my little extended vacation in Boston, which lasted eight years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And truthfully, I don't remember much else from that time, other than, you know, I'd had the same job for 20 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was working for the same company I work for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, certainly doing a different job than the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a much different place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, but I mean, in terms of specifics, like 2010 is one of those years where like I literally don't remember anything specific where it was opinion still a thing in 2010, we might have might have still been writing for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I left in a 20, let me see, I left in 2000 and seven to early 2008.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know how long much longer it existed after that, but probably if it did exist not much longer after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to say, I started my blog in either 2010.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started my blog when Shaday's last album came out, which would have been 2010.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So 2010 was the year pop nerd started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was still writing for pop matters at that time for a few other sites.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was fully engaged in the blog era of music, criticism, but yeah, and now I'm starting

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[SPEAKER_00]: other what has 2010 just kind of like rolls in everything else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, anything post 1999, where I'm going to time and place myself is basically the age of my kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so in 2010, I have a nine going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 10 going on 11 and 9 going on 10 and so that's that's where I am in that space is whatever they were doing probably is what you were doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're playing hoops.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not into the travel ball quite yet that would come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: a couple of years later, where my weekends were entirely about taking them to their games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But music, for my music standpoint, this is what's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's another album that I think we're going to talk about, where this is a much bigger memory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: are able to kind of go, oh, I want to listen to that music.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have an iPod, probably the, one of the thin ones, um, you know, or a shuffle, or whatever the, the, the tech was back then, and I would have been taken my iPod era.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember making playlists for them and helping them sync up their stuff to my computer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know downloading songs specifically for them that were entirely not for me at all, which is a little bit of a different thing at that point, you know, whatever was the kid thing going on at that point, but the album that we may talk about later, watch the throne.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was an album where I actually bought both the normal version and the edited version because I know they really wanted it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now look, it's, you know, that album comes out and they could have prob they were at the age on whatever version they wanted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I wanted to purchase and put the version of that album on their device as I saw fit as a parent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually bought both versions of that album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right on, yeah, I mean, if I had an 11 and 10 year old, I would not want them listening to the explicit version of watch to throw on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So okay, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Bruno Mars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: he was somebody that we kind of saw coming now you being much more close to the industry probably would have seen him even before I would have because he was you know writing stuff and you know I'm sure he was in some of the trades as somebody to keep an eye out on

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, honestly, the first I heard of Bruno Mars was nothing on you by B. OB, which was probably also the first time you heard the first time I heard him too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that song blew up and it was just like both of them felt like kind of came out of nowhere and all of a sudden it was just like big thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about that song a little bit, but this is not a B. OB episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what happened to my guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, the last, I remember hearing about B.O.B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was on some Kyrie, flat, earther, kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, we can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nine of us and we didn't have any more job that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was on some, he went way down a rabbit hole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't need to go down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, OK, dude, like, I'm switching you off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is a shame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the first rapper to do a song with Taylor Swift.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: his first two albums were very smartly done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought like they were able to cross over to a few different genres.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And even he's got a song with the Andre 3000 called Play My Guitar, which is a really good

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then like he just he falls off completely and you know, I would see him come up in Apple music from time to time and I'm gonna go, oh, when I'm with this guy's doing and then I turn it on and go, wait, second here, what is going on with you, stop music is not even, because what he was really good at was like I said, blending the genres and crossing over to a few different categories and he was like, right, cause like, or rap something and I was like, okay, this is not the B.O.B.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that I remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and not the same do like his first album had Haley Williams from Powermore on it and Rivers Cuomo from Weasor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he was definitely going for like a different kind of audience and I think had he stayed in that realm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, I guess the second album didn't do so well and maybe the label dropped him or whatever, but you know, he had something going for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think, rather just fell off the deep end, I hope, you know, I hope Bruno writes him a check every now and then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I've, I've looked in this up, and it sounds like the idea of Bruno Mars goes all the way back to like the mid 2000s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was a signing to Motown that never really nothing ever came out of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it wasn't until he joined up with the sneezing tins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: which was the production team of he and Philip Lawrence and Ari Levine, and then they began writing for others just as a way to kind of, you know, get their careers going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so some some pre-dabius, some pre-duop and Hooligans, uh, writing credits, uh, flowwriters round and round.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and he's got a

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[SPEAKER_00]: F U song, which makes sense if you listen to that song, it sounds like a Bruno Mars song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and Cilo Green will come up in a second again as we discuss this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but of course the first time that people really hear him is b o b's nothing on you and then uh... travey macoise billionaire as well right so both of those songs he he he it's kind of like uh... it kind of reminds me a little bit now not exactly but you and i

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[SPEAKER_02]: were eagerly anticipating the college dropout by Kanye because of we knew that he was producing all of these songs and you know just back then we were able to you know there were actually hip-hop magazines and stuff and you could read about oh like check this guy out keep an eye on this guy and so Kanye's doing all this stuff and then the college dropout comes out we're like oh I kind of want to hear

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, now I stopped wanting to hear about what Kanye West has to say, post life of Pablo, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this is kind of similar to Bruno Mars, because you're like, Oh, that guy that's on that song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I want to go look into his background and what he does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's actually got an album coming out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm paying attention to this dude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I have, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, opening day tickets to do wops and hooligans because I just, I'm just really interested in what this thing sounds like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would actually compare him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a few different ways, actually, because I actually think, you know, a joke that I've made is that Bruno Mars basically stole Neo's career.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's another one that I was thinking of too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but Neo came up writing for these people like you wrote, let me love you for Mario and a couple other songs with four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He came out on his own and blew up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was this anticipation, this build up from this guy who's like singing hooks and writing songs and doing all that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of followed the same blueprint.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I was thinking about we had, we did an episode, we've done an episode on a Lionel Richie, his title, his self-titled debut.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was thinking about descendants.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now usher, clear descendant of Michael Jackson from the stage act, from the style that he sings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin Timberlake as well, like very much, like there's a blueprint that they followed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was looking at Bruno Mars and I was like, you know, there's, there's different elements of different things in here, but I wonder what you thought about him being more closely the descendant of Lionel Richie than maybe anybody else all the way down to kind of the courtingous like the, and again, not a perjord if thing I think this is a charming part of Bruno's personality, but like you listen to some of the songs on the first album and you're like, okay, this is kind of cute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in any way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not necessarily cool, but it's kind of cute and a little bit corny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's some of the stuff that we were talking about in our final episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that didn't occur to me, but as I think about it, as you say, it makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, from a songwriting standpoint, I definitely Bruno has the ability to write

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[SPEAKER_00]: like, theoretically, a depth of songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And can kind of throw something in there just to kind of make a cute or weird or cool or like whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or whatever the trend is at that moment, we're going to take advantage of it, which is not great for looking back because then you have to remember what the hell he was talking about at that point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But in the time and place, he's really on top of those trends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, uh, the album is released October 4th, 2010.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do Ops and Hooligans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a, do you remember what you thought was actually good in music around that time frame because he comes in?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And at least to me, if, if felt like, okay, this was much needed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we needed this album.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a breath of fresh air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't done a whole lot of research into what was popular in 2010.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you mentioned watched the

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's kind of hard to remember what I was listening to at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't really off the top of my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't really strike me as a year when they were like lots of great records out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you know, one of the things that we as we do this show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: what is apparent to me, and some of this has to do with where you are in your time of life, but choosing the albums that we actually wanted to discuss, like in the 80s and the 90s, like we had so many operas super easy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're like crossing one's off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh man, how do we fit this one?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, but, you know, 2010's it and after it gets a lot harder, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's not a lot of stuff that is necessarily speaking to us as we age up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess that makes sense because music tends to try and speak to younger people, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it makes sense in that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, do you know the story behind the name of Bruno Mars?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so my man's government name is Peter Jean Hernandez, he has said when he was a baby, his pops named him Bruno, because his infant,

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[SPEAKER_02]: newborn or his newborn son looked like the pro wrestler from the sixties and seventies Bruno Sammartini say word that's what that's the story that Bruno Mars tells and so when Bruno Mars first told the story

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[SPEAKER_02]: he said this old wrestler who was kind of fat and staggy and Bruno Sam Martino today if you look at him like he he was kind of like a muscular guy but he was a big guy back in the 60s and 70s he was kind of like a muscle guy but the physics are much different today than they were then absolutely

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[SPEAKER_02]: So at some point before the legendary Bruno Samartino passed away, he and Bruno Mars were able to meet and Bruno was able to see who the reason for his namesake was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know what Bruno Mars looked like as a baby, but I just Googled a photo of Bruno Samartino and it looked nothing alike.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, not today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where that resemblance was coming from.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's like I've always I've always had this theory that every newborn like right when they come out of mom They look exactly like Mike Tyson

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is hilarious because Mike Scott did like the flat face right some of that is because of punches he's had to take but Mike has this like really flat face and it's a little sometime it just looks swollen and that's how babies look when they come out of moms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm going to have to look at some pictures of my Tyson and then some pictures of babies and make a comparison there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so the meaning of the album title do ups refers to the romantic melodic songs for the ladies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: While Hooligans represents the rock and reggae tinged, a tingeed bad boy energy for the guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about this a little bit in our two-poch episode where there's this idea of

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know who you make music for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to have some songs for the ladies, but you also have to have some songs for the guys, which is just to say you want your music to be a little bit more well rounded because that's how you gain in popularity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have to ladies are enjoying your stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want your concert to be only ladies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You also want them to bring their significant others so more people come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wonder if that was even a marketing strategy back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when Michael and Quincy made thriller, were they like, oh, we need a song for the dudes in here and we need a song for the ladies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if so, what song on thriller is for the dudes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Be it, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: beat it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, beat it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe do if we're dude's fans of American where we'll fin London because thriller videos, kind of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, yeah, you know, at some point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and Michael is probably a bad example because he was so like everybody loved him, like it didn't matter race or creed or like everybody just loved it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe except for

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[SPEAKER_02]: um, didn't know if it's music, but, you know, there are certain artists, and if you think about how music is segmented, like music itself,

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[SPEAKER_02]: is puts itself in boxes, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So sure, this is rock, here's country.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I just saw something where, you know, some of the country artists who are not happy with our political climate, they're getting kind of ostracized from their own genre.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that's not new, but, you know, the genre in itself and music kind of speaks to like a specific demographic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: making of duops and who'll again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Lev Pdios in Hollywood was what I found in the research is where they they primarily made the album and the engineer Ari Levine said it was so modest that they literally only had one microphone in the studio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... so they focused on something that they called heart beat music um... they agonized over uh... grenade which they say took several months to write they had the melody but they couldn't find the right lyrics to match the bodily harm for love theme of of that song um...

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[SPEAKER_02]: the tech and in the live instrumentation was described as kind of an in the box digital production runaway baby features a heavy soul rock beat influenced by James Brown while the lazy song

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, during a time frame in which they were just bored and did not feel like doing anything and turned into a song to a song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes there's inspiration even when there's no inspiration.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Bruno insisted on some reggae influences leading to the Damian Marley collaboration for liquor store blues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I mentioned the Cilo Green was gonna come back here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the lead single, just the way you are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: was originally offered to both Lupé Fiasco and Cilo Green before Bruno Mars decided to keep it for himself at the last minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How is Lupé Fiasco gonna do just the way you are?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a wrap record.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, which is very interesting because what would it have sounded like with Lupé Fiasco was he trying to do something a little bit more R&B-ish at that

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, man, pop-ish or whatever, but I would love to hear the Sealo Green version of the song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sealo Green is an incredible singer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So another piece of trivia, the Mary-U song was inspired by a Vegas trip where they just saw

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[SPEAKER_02]: a couple getting married on a whim and if you want to see couples get married on a whim, Vegas is the right place to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's been made about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't know this, but I guess Bruno Mars or when he was Pete Hernandez, when he was a little kid, he was an Elvis impersonator in Hawaii.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember reading that a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might have been a Michael Jackson impersonator too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess you could see both, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for real.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the album peaked at number three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It did not go to number one on the Billboard 200.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just the way you are was in number one song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Grenade was in number one song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The lazy song made it to number four.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we have two Grammys to redux here because he is involved in both the 53rd and the 54th Grammys because of the I guess the time frame in which the album came out right later later in the in this the year cut off for Grammy awards is usually like mid September mid to late September.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the 53rd Grammys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now some of this is B-O-B related.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said we would talk about B-O-B a little bit more, but the 53rd Grammys record of the year here are our nominations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Needs you now, the Bellum.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing on you, B-O-B and Bruno Mars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Love the way you lie, M&M with Rihanna.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... f u the silo green song that we talked about and empire state of mind jazzy and alisha kiz this is pretty good songs there do you remember who one i'm pretty sure lady and novellum one lady and novellum one um... those are five good songs if i never hear empire state of mind again i'm great i mean i i love my city i love my state i love jazzy i love alisha kiz i think today is

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never, ever, ever want to hear that song again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What about if Mary J. Blige was actually in the Alicia Keys?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that might have been a better record.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm here for a, let's, let's redo that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, put M.J.B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my personal, oh, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, who would, which is the, the favorite

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[SPEAKER_00]: My pick would have been seal up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of amazing just so yeah, it's amazing that that didn't win actually because of how big that song was at the title of it probably did not help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You mean F. Azsterix Azsterix Azsterix you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, all right, so for best male pop performance, just the way you are Bruno Mars, haven't met you yet, Michael Bublé.

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[SPEAKER_02]: what year would Michael have performed that song?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he performed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, that song was originally recorded in the 80s, but because Mike died in 2009, and it was released, well, not released, it was released for the first time in 2009.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it, what happened happened?

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[SPEAKER_02]: May Adam Lambert, I love that song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And half of my heart by John Mayer,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember who won this one?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, Michael Blueblade win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bruno Mars won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wow, okay, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, now we go to the next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the 54th Grammys best pop vocal album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... loud by reanna do ops and who begins by bruno born this way lady gaga the lady killer sea lagraine and twenty one by a del i mean a del one yes that's what i say twenty one by a del was everywhere one of everything yeah uh... i mean those are four good albums in lady gaga basically uh... you know my vote probably would go to uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually my book probably would go to a Dell.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Adele had a, had a, every year that seemingly she releases an album, she's able to she just swept the boat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's able to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is very, very, very strong for her, like she's able to kind of go away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: People forget about her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she comes back and they go, oh, man, I love Adele and she just just start selling records.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Adele.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so song of the air, of course, rolling in the deep winds, but here are the other nominees.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All the lights.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the cave, which is a moment for it in some of the, uh, grenade.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, a Bonnie Vaer song called Holocene and my pronouncing that correctly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I doubt one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, rolling in the deep is an amazing song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the lights is a really good song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although as a piece of song writing, I don't know that it's a great song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, rolling in the deep and grenade are probably the two best songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The grenade, I think, is one of like Bruno Mars best written songs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you know, there's other,

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's other categories that he was nominated and but he's losing to Adele every single time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, question, question for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or for actually the people watching listening, whatever, we talked about genre categorization earlier and one thing that I love about Bruno Mars is that Bruno Mars is like you could call him genre fluid, you could call him genre agnostic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bruno Mars can basically make any kind of music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which I love for him and I also love his music listener because I do think that

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, people try to put stuff in the boxes too much in Bruno Mars, Bruno Mars could make a straight up rock record if you wanted to, you could, you know, he 20, you made 24k magic, which was essentially an R&B album, you know, silksonic also like very much an R&B album, yeah, he could make like pop record like an adult contemporary pop record, he could do pretty much anything he wanted to do and I love that for again for us as listeners and for him as an artist, I love that freedom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think there was a little bit of negativity early on because there was an expectation of maybe a little bit more of an R&B lean when the first album is, it's kind of, it's a Capaparacard, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he had an idea of like, I want to come out big and I want to cater to pop music, which was smart because the album was successful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like you said, you get, you get that under you and then you can kind of do whatever you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, he's caught flack for a lot of things like, you know, because people are wanting to negative feedback, trying to trying to flex on people and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to flex on people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's silly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bruno, you're five foot two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's flexing on guard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, unless you hide in some stuff in a pompa door, you ain't coming after nobody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, like people are very quick to throw out the words culture vulture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Bruno Mars has certainly been called the culture vulture before, which I think is inaccurate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I mean, I appreciate the versatility of Bruno, Bruno can, you know, come out on the Grammys and like all purple and do a print tribute, but he can do a song with Snooping was Khalifa too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like any fits into all of that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I think that kind of back to your point, I think what it says.

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[SPEAKER_02]: is that he as a music listener is not boxed in to one specific thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a wide ear and thus because of that, he knows the right sounds when he changed it up a little bit, right, right, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to more than likely do an episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: on the silksonic album.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At least I think we're kind of saving that because that is one of the records that you know, post.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this time for a list that we're kind of interested in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not in cement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not set in stone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a done deal quite yet because I do want to do a little bit more research to make sure that that's the right album that locked in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But so we're not going to talk a ton about the post, uh, uh, the post duops and whooligans, but I do want to talk a little bit more, maybe more generically about some one of the things about an artist like this is they come out and their brand new and their fresh and your like, oh man, like this, this is what we needed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then sometimes the follow up isn't fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think about his follow up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: actually thought the follow-up was better than the first album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I feel like with him every album is like you're peeling off like a layer a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's different enough that you don't feel like you're getting served the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got served the last time, but it's similar enough that you're like, okay, it feels like a logical progression from one thing to the next thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we're talking about unorthodox jukebox, which is really hard to say, I think that was the intention.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, we're tongue tying up all of these DJs who have to be on the radio and say what your album is called.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're purposely doing this, but it shows growth, but you know it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what's hard is, and we see this because you can go historically and look at second albums and sometimes second albums.

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[SPEAKER_02]: our failures, even if they're actually critically more acclaimed than the first album.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's because the audience says, we liked this, we wanted to hear this, we did not want to hear this, which to me tells me that he understood his audience or what he thought could become his audience better than most artists, which is a skill in of itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he is beloved enough by the industry that he, you know, he wasn't really going to fail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's beloved enough by the public that he really wasn't going to fail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just very smart in knowing, like he smart with his visuals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's smart with the people he collaborates with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it just kind of like added up to, you know, a pretty solid success.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the third album.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you also feel that it was a step or an even better album than the prior?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of songs on 24K Magic that I'm just like, OK, skip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, at least.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is where I feel with 24 care with 24 K magic, where he was leaning a little bit too much into like what he thought the kids, maybe a woodau would have wanted him to say that we'll talk about this in our, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: in our top five segment, but I was always, I always thought when I saw Versace on the floor, I was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody said that to him and he was like, oh, shit, I got a name one of my songs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he decided to write the song after he had the title, because that's something a master marketer would do is to try and find something that would be cool to say that no one has said before and then create something out of that saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's kind of, that goes back to

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[SPEAKER_02]: the cornyness but also the kind of the charmingness with him and which is why I think, you know, how old is Bruno Mars at this point?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably late 30s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he can still work with young artists.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't see, he's kind of like, maybe not today's day and age for O Williams, but maybe like the 10 years ago for O Williams where, I mean, that brother still looks great, but, you know, he is a little bit older now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you looked at Frel and you were like, I can't tell if that dude's 25.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 35 they're doing a Lego movie about this dude like and he kind of seemed angels which allowed him to work with wide ranging of acts and I sort of feel a sick

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[SPEAKER_02]: like I mean he looks great he looks young he's small ish so he kind of looks that helps his his young status and you know in our top five episode we'll talk a little bit about the collaborations that he's able to to do and and we'll talk about whether we like them or not but I think one of the things about Bruno Mars is he's able to

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's able to cultivate a career that began, you know, 2010, like we've said, it is now 2026, 16 years in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't feel like he's been aged out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't feel like he's on cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, don't feel like he's over the, you know, that his careers over and done with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he's like right still in the swing of things, which makes me interested in when the romantic comes out, because I definitely want to listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's like the monoculture doesn't really exist anymore, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's one of those people that still has a monoculture type existence, you know, I think it's like him and Taylor and Beyonce and that might be it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, it doesn't matter what race you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You like Bruno Mars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter what gender you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You like Bruno Mars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter what age you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Grandparents can find something to appreciate about Bruno Mars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Parents, kids, like it's kind of, you know, he's one of the last few musicians who has, like, universal appeal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's biracial as well, which helps, right, like, like, you go, oh, I, I'm sure there are certain races who claim him and he's like, I'm not, but you can claim me because that if that makes you like me better, right, he's super, he's super ambiguous in that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which you know in at a time when particularly I feel like his panic artist should be a little bit more vocal he's not and that's kind of a sticking point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know I do think that he has like he's kind of a chameleon right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can kind of fit into anything and the other thing I think that makes an

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we talked about the food he's being a cover band and couple episodes ago, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't off the top of my head, I can't think of any actual covers that Bruno Mars has released, but enough of his songs kind of sound like other songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like lock that up heaven, he's straight up, like a police rip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, uptown funk, I think actually got him sued for ripping off another song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, blurred line style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I mean, I don't think he, I don't think he plagiarizes anything, but I think he tries to make songs that are reminiscent of other songs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There, I mean, it's a great point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: About Bruno Mars when I listen to his music, I go, that sounds like something else that I've heard before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it makes me feel it feels familiar without being the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there's sort of trick to that and that might be the future of AI, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's like, he's a good student of music and, you know, even beyond that, like how many big hit records, then have another record made as a response to it that also becomes a big hit, like you talk about when I was your man and then flowers by Miley Cyrus, which was a response to when I was your man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I think that's something that would have been periodically back in the day, but hasn't happened in a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's you know, interesting like he's a throwback and he's future at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is your no skip to rating for this album?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hovering somewhere between like a six and a seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that one on your definite skip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I, when I was listening to all three albums by the way, I came away with just the feeling that These albums are good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that they're necessarily great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how I would rank them in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but there are so many songs on each album that I really like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I don't think it makes him a singles artist because I think the albums are cohesive enough to where I really, really enjoy them and I don't see them as like, oh, those are only two songs I like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I did have that feeling of like there's like two or three songs on each album that I really like and then there are a bunch that I can stomach and I'm okay with and then there's somewhere you're like okay this this is kind of silly but I don't know what that says about him as an album artist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But at least in my taste, because I think he's a successful album artist, you can just tell by his career.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that is one thing that kind of stood out in my read lessons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I didn't listen to these albums back to back like that in a while, which is why I love doing the show because it's a great exercise for me to go back and go, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What did I think about it then?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what do I think about it now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think my feelings are pretty similar from 16 years ago to today on what this album was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a BB plus to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what it was back then, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's it for me, it's like a B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you kind of nailed it, hit, nailed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You hit the nail on the head where it's like, I don't know that there's really a bad song on this, but you know, there's two or three songs that I really, really like and a bunch of songs that I can kind of take a leave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to we'll talk a little bit more about our favorite Bruno songs on the top five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to dig in on some of the other music that he's been making outside of albums as well and just thoughts on that in our in our top five and and so well this was a little bit of a shorter episode because I think we're going to save some Bruno stuff for that soksonic album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also short because Bruno Mars album is historically short, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, dude, who looks in his 10 tracks and that might be Bruno's longest album?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, these things are like 40 minute lessons, which is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Mike and I will be back with the top five on Bruno Mars and his collaborations in and all and then we'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Next week with our next album we are not because we're doing these kind of out-of-order and I'm I don't want to say What the next thing is because it may change.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's it's not that I don't want people to be able to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh You know, I desperately want to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me go back and listen to that's that album It's just because I'm still trying to figure out the the right process here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a cliff anger.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah It's a cliff anger

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we'll probably, at least I hope, we won't go backwards a little bit because we've done a few 2000s albums of late so we can go back a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think we need to, I want to do something in the late 80s or the early 90s next, but don't hold me through it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Calm down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for Mike, I'm double G. We'll see you when we see you piece out.