Brandy's PHASES Memoir: All 7 Albums Ranked, The Boy Is Mine Legacy & Her Full Story | The Cool Check-In

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to 50 for 50 this episode of Cool Check-in as you can see if you're watching on video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The jersey that won Mike Joseph is wearing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are recording this literally the day after the New York mix one the NBA championship we got the chip baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was gonna happen in my lifetime it happened but just three years before we were born

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yep, so you got it we got it I just want to one, you know, this is where you got to get greedy in 2015.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got mine because the Warriors won, I think, in 75.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So literally the year before I was before you were born.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they weren't they weren't the Golden State Warriors and we're.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they were they were okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know time they were, I think, San Francisco Warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, you get it and you're like, oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and you get greedy and you're a good man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanna another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like look, if you get, if Jalen Brunson stays healthy and I would tell my man like chill out for like a month like that dude played so hard during this entire series and he played so many minutes, I like man, let that man rest because yeah, given break, you got to do it again next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was come for you now that was that was fun watching the game five like I kind of thought I was like okay the way that the stuff usually works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is you win it or San Antonio wins it to get to game six than the next get to win at home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not usually how it works, but that's like kind of like the better story right the next we're like nah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we don't we don't want that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're we're going to let we're going to let y'all get your leads, but we know when it comes to the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are going to get uh, but cheeks are going to get a little tight like in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I like about the cool and collect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, look, Wendy is a great player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Barring injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There will be many, many more trips to the NBA finals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in the spurs are a great organization.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love me some coach pop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, so they're going to get there, but, you know, from New York for, you know, an entire lifetime of wanting to get a championship, you know, suffering through 1994.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I didn't think we had a chance in 1999, but, you know, and you see this team, man, just so many gamers on this team, like that entire starting five, you know, of Rado, Jordan Clarkson, you know, Mitch Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Landry shamits out here, hidden clandries, what land, I mean, landry shamit, if there was a six man of the year award for the postseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, or a bench player of the year award, like Landry Shamit would get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, it's such a good team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, shout out to Mike Brown, you know, and Leon Rose, who kind of built this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know what, my favorite moment from the whole thing was at the end when Jalen and Rick Prumson embraced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That, that was the thing that like made me tear up a little bit because he's just, it's such a beautiful thing to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: somewhat because of the history of the NBA and how, you know, if you follow this stuff, that was one that we were waiting for, the tire league, the fan base was waiting for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I'm like, I want to see the spurs on top again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So quickly, man, like, forget that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not here to talk about when I had to talk basketball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Garrett does plenty of that elsewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking brandy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Brandy came out with an autobiography, a memoir called Faises, and you read it, I got the audiobook version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we're going to talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're also going to do this a little bit differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about her dysgography as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a couple of segments that will, well, one of them is a redo, but we just read, we just did it for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I knew one that I haven't told Mike about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll have a second shorter episode with Brandy's top five because she's got enough albums for us to create a top five for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that'll be the next episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's sit with the memoir here for a second and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's interesting about this memoir, we did, we talked about our sinneal halls memoir that also came out recently and the one thing about our sinneal is our sinneal is, you know, he's many years older than us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the rise of our sinneal, we like saw him kind of at his peak and that was that was where we rocked with our sinneal, but we've been following Brandy like her entire career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is like a thing where we know all of the highest parts of Brandy's career like we live through it and we live through her albums and you know after I would say that that

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, late nineties early 2000s point like she became just less and less relevant in the pop music scene right what surprised you the most when you've read the memoir being that we just knew a lot of her story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an interesting question and I don't know that anything surprised me because particularly because of that reason right like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been rocking with Brandy since day one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the whole arc we've been a part of, it's not like our scenario where, our scenario is 20 years older than we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And had like a whole career that was building up before, we were even born or able to like understand pop culture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when Brandy came out, when I wanted to be down, came out, we were 18.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so we saw the whole kind of, you know, we saw the rise and, you know, the fall, um, relative if they're being a fall, but, you know, we, we, we have first hand knowledge of all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't say that anything super surprised me, um, it was a good read.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the relationship with her and Whitney Houston.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I didn't know all of the bits and pieces of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I knew that Whitney was her idol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew she got to work with her in that Cinderella movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't know like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the beginning of where she's like trying to meet Whitney going to conquer her is is the go between.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then she gets the she gets to call her on the phone and talk to her on the phone where she's just a little girl and that kind of just makes her more amped up to to do what she wants to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she creates a relationship with Whitney all the way down to

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[SPEAKER_01]: seeing Whitney pretty much at the end of her life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The end of the day before she passed away, which is also the same day as Brandy's birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Birthday, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And which is the signifying her album, her second to, I guess, the second to most recent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, second to most recent album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that, like that was very interesting because that's not something I knew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing I would say that was the most interesting that I didn't know was the Monica story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because in the public eye and in the media, they were hit it against each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So often, I just assumed that the beef was real and they're just like, this is a lot of this is just made up and some of it because it is made up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like we don't know where it's coming from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're just assuming the worst of each other until we kind of connect and have a conversation about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, if you see them now, they seem like they're like best friends because they're doing stuff together constantly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also didn't know the whole story of the Monica situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that was pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, they were definitely pitching

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brandy and Monica and you know even at like when they first came out They were pitching Brandy Monica and Alia all against one another because they were all roughly the same as it all came out at roughly the same time Doing you know very similar types of music and you know the narrative in I mean not just the music industry and any industry is that You know women in the same industry can't get along

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they were very clearly pitted against one another actually I remember they're being a guest on my radio show back in the day when I was doing radio if you're Brooklyn, who I don't know if he did show time at the Apollo with Brandy or something like that and I'm like I'm going to mess to story up but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they were well, I'm gonna actually backtrack a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was the sole train awards that year, where, you know, they showed like Brandi and Alia and I'm an native for the same award and they cheered Brandi and they boot Alia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But around the same time, there was Showtime at the Apollo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to say that my man, B.S.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said that Brande's folks actually were like, boom, monarch, or Boo, Ali, or Boo, one of those other girl artists.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I think they played into it a little bit, but also like they were kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're that young,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe your communication skills aren't as good, I mean, they're not there plenty of people are age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have really poor communication skills.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you met you mentioned the earlier thing and in the in the book, Brandy says that timbo told her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that Aliyah did not really want Timbalen working with other women because she liked that that was her sound and it was competitive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so after Aliyah passes, Brandy reaches out to Timbo and they work together and Timbo tells her like, Aliyah was, you know, she wanted me to keep that sound unique and then Brandy has an experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with Rodney Jerkins later where she kind of has that same relationship and then he becomes big and it starts working with other folks and she kind of feels some way about it because he feels like they created something and then he used that to work with other people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, on one hand, that's kind of what every producer does at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that working with Brandy is what blue Rodney jerkins up to be this like big producer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you listen to, if you had my love by J.Lo, for you listen to, it's not right, but it's okay, like those songs are very clearly

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say rip-offs, but they're based on the sound that the boy is mine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a by-product.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they sound very similar to one another.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, particularly in the case of like J.Lo, I'm pretty sure, I mean, and even with Whitney, you know, and Whitney and Brandy were close, so there was no competition, but I'm sure that like five Davies and Simon Matolle were like, we want the sound of this record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I think Ridey Jerk is probably asked to make songs that were similar to the boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My brand is young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got a young ear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got a brother who comes off interestingly in the book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no Kim Kardashian stories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ray J. just strikes me as a horrible human being and you know brandy could have thrown him under the bus, but she didn't It sounds like they're still tight, so yeah, you know, she's that's big sis, so she's probably constantly having a look out for him, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, one of the things that you that you just mentioned, the jail of story, I think she said, and it may have been a different song, but I think she said he played her something, and she was like, oh, this is dope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, oh, no, no, no, no, this isn't for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to get your opinion on the right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got it, which is somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next, that's shitty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's just a horrible way to do things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my brain as I was like going back through my brandy story,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, who's the baby daddy again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Rodney Jurkins, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was his, it was his,

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, someone who worked with him, who, and then they, but they developed their relationship because of her relationship, runny jerkins, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she has her daughter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess her daughter is maybe singing or starting to sing or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's a singer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You heard any of her stuff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because one of the, one of my favorite parts of the book,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is her daughter, well, I don't remember how to pronounce her daughter's name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to survive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, right, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, the daughter's still a little girl and they're at like a family event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Brandy's kind of feeling like her career is a little bit maybe in the rear view, or at least the public belief she's a little bit in the rear view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so somebody puts on like a DVD of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brandy's performances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now this is Brandy's story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The little girl did not know her mom was a giant pop star and was really angry to see this video because she was like, how come you never told me that this was you like what and so I was kind of like, I'm not sure that that's a real story, but yeah, it was a it was a nice moment

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this secret is now in the open and I can kind of be me, you know, all of me around my daughter, not have to just protect her, but yeah, like, you know, there's some nice stories like that, yeah, and there's also some negative stories there there are two, the two main negative stories are around men in her life and one of those men is, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oneye from Boistiman, they famously dated when she was young, well, how old she was?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like 15 or 16 years old and he was like, already in his early 20s, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he might have been like 20 or 21, maybe 22.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this as Brandy tells the story, oneye calls her home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just to basically say like I like your stuff and the mom who is her manager, brandy's mom is excited because it's like, oh, one year's famous and he's interested in your music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great connection to have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe being a little bit naive as to probably the real reason that one

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[SPEAKER_00]: as much as I hate to give anybody to the benefit of the doubt in a situation like that maybe he initially did call it just be like hey I like your music and at some point early on he was like oh like you know she's fangirling me like that I'm gonna take advantage and so that that is a that is a I would say she's probably the angriest at that story and I think the thing that makes her the angriest is

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is his side of the story, you know, his reason for doing certain things or his he mixed using himself about the who the what the went in the why, and yeah, like that's a tough part of the story to listen to because again, I think I mentioned this to you in a past episode, I was like, we live that, yeah, how did we feel about it in that time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we knew it was wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but the entire public knew the age difference and they were like, I don't remember they're being a real negative thing about that relationship at that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so here's how I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't recall Brandy and Juan Yee going public dating until Brandy's second album was out at which point she was 18.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the way that they tried to spin it is that they were admirers of one another, they were fans, they worked together like all this stuff happened, and then all of a sudden Brandy's legal in there a couple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like there were so many pictures of them before that though, right, but it was always kind of like, oh, you know, there's friend like it was it was a more innocent time and maybe I was naive and certainly I was like this looks weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you also take what they're saying at face value and they did not go public about dating until, you know, later in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and now obviously, I mean, it was incredibly inappropriate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was very clearly taken advantage of, you know, uh, like, I hate being this person, but I'm also like, what was mom thinking about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the solution to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she, she seemed to be in favor of it because this helps brand his connections, but at the same time, I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you don't see the problem with this conversation happening, you know, and maybe I'm sure mom's has regrets about it now, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, who does not get nearly enough crap for this kind of thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry Seinfeld.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not a Jerry Seinfeld person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't fully know what the story is there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do know that I guess it's why I know that there is a significant age difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was 38.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they dated for, I guess, four years is what the internet tells me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yikes and so this sort of saying is that relationship and now Jerry Seinfeld is like royalty right like nobody gives him any sort of crap for that and it is you know that that's kind of the one that's the one of the ones where I'm like this is where the world and the public and celebrities just the rules are so different for certain people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, this is not a chair sat in the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just always like to point that out because people seem to believe that he can do no wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, not to me, yeah, I'm reading this shit now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I like Martin better anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, there's a variety of reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really mess with sign feeling like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like like he told me Michael Michael Richards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, and I mean, Jerry Signfeld has turned out for other reasons to not really be like the best person, so, you know, he can he can screw off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... so i guess some of the other pieces of this uh... of this book that i found interesting and you know she's uh... again this is her story it's a memoir so she's telling her truth uh... the uh... the eating disorder stuff was pretty heartbreaking man

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like that was tough because she was such a young person and she was doing both careers acting and music and she was doing a few little modeling gigs and it's so much pressure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was like she was on TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was making music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was modeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was in movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's, you know, as a teenager to be doing all that stuff is bananas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Were you a Moisha fan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I didn't really have a TV during that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've only watched a handful of episodes of Moisha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she did not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she starts a Moisha, but that is not her first television show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I actually, I remember watching Fia back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I probably watched more of a sort of Fia going to watch the Moisha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she did not have great things to say about the, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She said that, it was really hard on her as a first time actress and I can sort of see why, if you think about it, I've not heard the point of view of this, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just remember, she was like the new thing, the new female comic who was going to be the next big thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she had the TV show for a couple of years and it didn't really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't, it didn't, I don't remember anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna make out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so from her perspective, if she knew kind of the window that she had to become as big as humanly possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she thinks this little singer is kind of screwing up her thing here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see how, you know, maybe she's a little frustrated about that process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like Brandy's is like a little kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, you're walking those kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and I,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, via might have been the first black female comic to have a show developed around her and that came, you know, I'm sure that was a result of like Martin being successful in all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it sounds like she really didn't handle that well at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's still business man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it kind of, I mean, it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like that experience really is what prevented her career from going any further because, you know, that was kind of the pinnacle for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will remind some folks who may know this, but in the, I think it's the mid 2000s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a pro wrestler named Shelton Benjamin and actually he's still around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's like in his 50s and this dude is still athletic as all hell Hmm and they were trying to branch out his character because he's kind of like a soft spoken dude and he does not this like super charismatic guy So what they did was they created his pretend mama

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she would come and kind of like be a manager, but she would be like in the front row and then she may have even came to ringside, but like that was like his mom's was like, you know, in charge of him, like kind of, you know, like a mom of your or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And see if a doll played Shelton Benjamin's mama.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I remember how the mighty have fallen I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a good character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So would you advise fans of music memoirs to pick this thing up and check it out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good read.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was breezy on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that you're petty Riley's book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's that's a low bar man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did, one thing I did find interesting was I read Brandy's book Teddy's book and Arsenios book all around the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like the one thing all three books had in common?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she had the little piece about listening in to some of the invincible stuff because Rodney was working with her and Michael at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's even in the background singing harmonies or something on invincible, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's on invincible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on full moon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What song is he on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a song called, it's not worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go back and check that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know she's on late registration, which was kind of like maybe a trade-off for Kanye doing stuff on her Afro-Diziac album, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she did not have good things to say about Kanye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She did not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of wonder if she thought about that at the time, or if it now is just easy to pile on Kanye

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe it's a little of both, but also like her brother has beef with Kanye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hit it first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the next time I see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be an ICU kind of beef.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes indeed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes indeed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now let's transition over to her discography a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So her album when she's a teenager, the her self titled 1994 album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four times platinum in the US, first single, as far as I remember, was I want to be down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the first single.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And listening back,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the album of a teenager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is exactly what a teenage young girl's album kind of sounded now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they even kind of wanted to make her sound younger than she actually was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she mentions this in the book like they wanted her to like be closer to 13 than 15 or whatever, just by the what they thought that they could sell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never say never five times platinum featuring the boy's mind, which is a giant single.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk a little bit more about that in our top five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is our best album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, front to back, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is older than the young girl album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is kind of like a teenager kind of becoming a young woman kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's an older teenager kind of album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because of the distinctive sound and the production with Ronnie Jerkins, it sounds like fresh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, Brandy's like, Brandy's kind of got a little edge to her, literally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was funny because part of the boy's mind thing that we were talking about is Monica's label decided that this duet was going to be on both of their albums, and they were going to title Monica's album after this song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Brandy and rightfully so pride felt a certain way about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, at the end of the day, Randy's album sold better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is, honestly, it was a record, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a better record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Monica has talented as she is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she has ever surpassed her first album from a quality standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and that album was like the opposite of like the 15-year-old trying to be 13.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like a 15-year-old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 15-year-old trying to be 30.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Full moon comes out in 2002 and she's chasing a little bit of never say never.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a little bit older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's dealing with, you know, some older, you know, some younger women, younger women things, but older than a teenager things, like heartbreak and and such, I listening back,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This album, it was almost like never say never part two, but it was like, you're about two years too late with this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's kind of how I felt when I was listening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's four years later, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's sort of sounds almost too similar, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does sound very similar, it's funny, the brandy album that I do come back to most regularly is probably full moon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the good songs on it are better than the good songs I never say never, but never say never is a more consistent record and the way that never say never sounded was very much like it was a new sound at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's okay at there are songs that I like on this album, but listening all the way through, I was actually pretty bored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I think that's human as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's some stuff that I really remember and I really like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there are some stuff I was like, this sounds all the same, like there's no differentiation in any of these songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember being really disappointed by Afro-desiac because it's like, oh, you know, Timbalans at like the top of his game right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I did find it weird that, you know, Aliya passes away and then all of a sudden like Brady and Timbaland are doing a record together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, it was kind of a boring record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a couple of good songs on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I think one of the songs made my top five reading correctly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, it's just, uh, I don't think they were necessarily like the best match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh, human comes out in 2008, so she's, you know, she is, uh, getting closer

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are a couple of songs on the album that I do like, but now she's, you know, she's, she's testing, you know, different sounds and different producers and I'm not sure she's got the greatest chemistry with a lot of these folks and I mean, I think, you know, if I remember the book properly, she had started the album working with like different people like Frank Ocean is on that album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like halfway through the labels, like we think you need to call Rodney again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they didn't hear a hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, how are we going to sell this thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then two 11, which is signifies the date that when he used to pass away is 2012.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting choice Chris Brown lead single was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was Chris Brown Chris Brown at that time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't I'm trying to remember the time in which we were just like out completely on Chris Brown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really on stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was post-Riana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I remember correctly, Rihanna was 2010.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if you put that man's name on on a song that's the for it's an easy way for me to skip that song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could not get through this album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's songs I like on that album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that I've listened to it completely through in a long time, but even like yesterday, I was on my way out and a song from that I came up on random and I was like, this is, this is a banger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's some good stuff on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, too much hip-hop production, I think, like two hip-hop styled production.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it may just be

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like she is trying to stay hip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just not hip anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just, you know, she's in her mid 30s or something at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of like, you know, maybe her sound hadn't necessarily grown the way that I wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, like I don't even remember the sound coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh 2020 they were chasing hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah 2020 was b7 and that's the last album that she's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got some interesting people on this album, but again, I'm kind of boring to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Daniel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Daniel Caesar's on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like Daniel Caesar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just she's she's a 40 year old woman at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, it's often really hard for artists as they grow to kind of, you know, figure out what the right sound is for for the age and where your audiences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so now we which went through all of those albums.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have a new game for us called Oh boy tears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Brandy's one of those artists who I think is like greatest hitsable, meaning that you could be, you'd be perfectly fine not owning a single studio album by this artist and getting like the best of Brandy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I have over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say the closest thing she has to anything that's like indispensable would be never seen ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is your what would be the second album that you think is is after that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be full moon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I'll put both of those and must listen just because it's kind of like, you know, her top two records.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where would you put Afro-desiac in human?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'd probably rank them like never say never full moon, human.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, I'd probably put out for DCI third, human fourth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're kind of in like that mid tier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then we have her self titled debut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is, yeah, which is a good record, but I mean, as a 50 year old person, it feels a little awkward to be listening to some of that now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, you know, the good stuff is very memorable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's all from, you know, high school time frame or late high school early college time frame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go to college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, so I would, I think I would put it in mid, but I would put it at the end of the mid tier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you put to 11 or B7 in the mid tier?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you leave it for the last tier?

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[SPEAKER_00]: to 11 would be in the mid tier B7.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember buying that album and being super disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is, for me, the four stands only record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for your brandy discography, must listen, never say never, 1998, full moon, 2002.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For the mid tier, Afro-DZAC 2004, human 2008, Brandy's self-titled debut, 1994, and 2011 from 2012, and four stands only, B7.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now we started this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last time, last episode on the Luther episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is called jam and Lewis or law face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the idea is, if you could have either of those two duos, classic duos, produce a full album of said artists in their prime, which production duo would you choose?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, I mean, Brandy did work with Babyface.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so there's that, uh, you know, I think Jam and Lewis were to brought some edgy or stuff out of her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, the trouble that I have with letting Babyface produce your whole album is that it, Babyface does your whole record, like, half the album is going to sound exactly the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You may get some good songs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You may also get a lot of radio play from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% You know, because babyface was running things back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But jam and Lewis have historically made more interesting records.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do think that if they got with Brandy, they would make something that sounded

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, pretty cool and maybe a little bit different, whereas, you know, if she got with Prime, but if after sitting up in my room, she went and she did a whole album of baby face, it would have been like nonstop hits at the park.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what would have been interesting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think, never say never, I think the Ronnie Jerkens Lean is a little bit more closer to what jam and Lewis would have done with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The baby face touch on sitting up in my room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would imagine, like if you're asking people, you know, what song do you remember most about Brandy sitting up in my room or what about us?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That probably says sitting up in my room because that thing was on the radio all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is a good one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: for my ears, I would lean towards what you said because I think never say never is my favorite album of hers for specific reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would sell the most?

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[SPEAKER_01]: LA LA LaFace probably if they did, you know, a version of Sydney been my room for in 18-year-old Brandy or a 22-year-old

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 100%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so...

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[SPEAKER_01]: We we wanted to do this for the book, but we and we also wanted to show Brandy some love because you don't have a specific 50 for 50 episode on the album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, she did make some good songs and we'll talk about our favorites in the top five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So check out the next episode after this one and we will talk about our favorite Brandy song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Mike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm WG, you will see when we see you, peace out.