Feb. 25, 2026
Best TLC Songs & All Albums Ranked | Top 5
TLC redefined the girl group blueprint, but which tracks truly define their legendary career? In this episode of Top 5, hosts Garrett Gonzales and Mike Joseph tackle the iconic discography of T-Boz, Chilli, and Left Eye.
The duo faces the impossible task of narrowing down their Top 5 favorite TLC songs, debating the cultural impact of hits like "Waterfalls," "No Scrubs," and the self-love anthem "Unpretty." Beyond the singles, Garrett and Mike provide a definitive ranking of every TLC album, from the New Jack Swing energy of Ooooooohhh... On the TLC Tip to the futuristic sounds of FanMail.
Whether you’re a lifelong fan of the "CrazySexyCool" era or a newcomer to their R&B revolution, this episode breaks down the harmonies, the fashion, and the timeless production that made TLC the best-selling American girl group of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are back for our top five episode covering TLC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did our previous episode where we talked about crazy, sexy cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked a lot about their career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice little history lesson in music and in the mid 90s as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Mike, let's kick off the top five for TLC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just kind of based on what you were saying in the previous episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to guess that we're a little bit different here and which is good because I think we are because that pulls some deep cuts because and also because you're making playlists and we're publishing those playlists and we're putting out posts on 50 for 50 dot net.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you get your your mix tape master game on
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm digging a man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saving them all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have this list of all the shows that we've done and the top five's and the playlists.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully people are getting a kick out of it because what I realized is people who know us
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[SPEAKER_00]: And who are close to us are probably pretty familiar with kind of how we are and specifically how you are with your music head knowledge and and your our pop culture fandoms of things and information and just knowing a lot of the the trivia and the history to stuff right but.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Google does it's thing and start surfacing some of our stuff, there's going to be some people who probably don't know the history or haven't really heard, I brought up Amy Winehouse last time, but haven't really heard Amy Winehouse's stuff, you know, oh my gosh, like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can't believe I had never heard this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For so I'm hopeful that these playlists are getting listened to and people could pick up on some of the things that we really enjoy about these albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so do you want to go first?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want me to go first?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I went first last time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so number five for me, the only song off of fan mail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this song is a, I could see if people thought it was a little bit preachy, but because of who TLC is to their audience, I really like the message.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is unpretty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was kind of their last real, I don't know if I would consider it like a hit hit, like some of their bigger songs, but I mean, it was a number one record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the moment, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the video, I think,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say left eye was doing sign language in the video, like it was just very thoughtful song, and again, their feminists, they're standing up for women, girl power, I just I really love the theme and the message from unpretty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number five is completely on a different tack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the only song from their first album that I put on my list and it's Baby Baby Baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, they came out real hard with ain't too proud to beg and baby, baby, baby was kind of like them smoothing it out a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for whatever reason, I just remember them singing that song on our signal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and left I came out she had the key tar and she was playing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I was playing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is vividly as I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, you know, women with instruments, maybe it's that kind of, I don't know whatever it is, but that performance was dope and that song is still really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in the episode where we talked about Crazy Sexy Cool, I mentioned that, you know, when I was in high school, I'm 15 or 16 when they when they drop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that performance on our scenario when chili is singing the, you know, the hook of that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I just melted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I was like done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, who is this person and they need to be in my life?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is too funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just, there's something so endearing about her to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She just, actually seems like she would be so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, both Chile and T-Bah, I seem like they would be a lot of fun to hang out with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: T-Bahs will get you in the trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but she was probably like, make fun of you too a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's probably cracking on you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, it is in my top five as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was, I think it was very, it was a very important part of that first album because it just allowed that song to get played in more places so that you could know who they were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, well, it's like if you thought TLC was just a rap group and remember, this is at a time when a lot of radio stations, both pop stations and R&B stations would not play hip hop at all, baby, baby, baby was away from the kind of getting that door as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was there when will I see you smile again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm going to be going a little bit more chalk than you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So number four for me comes from Crazy Sexy Cool and
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why this song like, and I'll tell you, so the bigger singles on crazy sexy cool creep and red light special did not make my list, but I think this was the fourth single digging on you, but for the reason that baby baby baby works or waterfalls works,
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, wrap or R&B or adult, if this is, you can just play it anywhere in it and just crosses over and I just really liked, I think that song was also really smart for for their album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my number four pick is actually from the 3D album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, you know, again, a lot of people don't necessarily listen to her page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot that it is even existed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You forgot it existed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not an awesome record, but there are some good songs on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was the third, second or third single from the album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's called
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dallas Austin produced it and this is around the same time Dallas Austin was doing songs with pink like don't let me get me So it has that kind of like like I could hear pink singing this song But instead chillies singing this song, but it's also like lyrics about hey, you know, I know that
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[SPEAKER_01]: we're in a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that you might be a little weirded out for me, but I'm damaged by my previous relationships.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, you know, it's got a lot of resonance there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just cool to hear like TLC basically doing a rock record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to go back and listen to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three for me was baby, baby, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can go you already talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number three is waterfalls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, again, like when crazy sexy cool came out, Mary jays my life came out either the week before the week after I don't remember which, but I played those two albums and I had them on cassette.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I played those two tapes over and over and over again, like I memorized those albums and waterfalls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: stuck out immediately because it was so different than all of the music that they had been out before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was like a live band, very slow, funky kind of feel, and you know, it just had like substance to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, again, it still resonates today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like even, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: summer in 1995, I'm like, did I have cable?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I must have had cable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure I saw the video more than enough, but you know, regardless, the video, I don't even think about the video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The song is just fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you like your favorite show also has like something that has to do with the song that you really like and those mediums like cross into each other, it's kind of like one of those fun moments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you guys like the same thing that I like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, there's an episode of Martin and I don't even remember the episode is about, but but some Gina was doing something and I think she realized that, you know, maybe this was a mistake and Martin goes, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gina, don't go chase a waterfall's baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Gina goes, I know, I know, but when she says I know, she does like the choreography to the video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like, I was like, I died.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I love this show so much, because they're listening to the same songs that I'm listening to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so number two for me, because waterfall's number one, by the way, for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: game it up early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two is what about your friends?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember watching that video and thinking like these ladies are like just way too cool for anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're just like so they're so charismatic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't really care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're wearing the baggy clothes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is the video where T-Boss kind of shows off a little bit of a physique because I forgot what she's wearing but like one of her arms is bare and she like throws a bicep flex I was like oh look at she got a little bit of muscle there T-Boss were working out and there actually no it was chili it was chili it was chili is like tiny right and then chili flexes the bicep and I was like oh she's she been doing some some some curls some dumbbell curls look at chili
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, just remember that video thinking like, they're kind of on top of the world to me being 16.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go on, like, okay, these are the three coolest chicks I've ever seen in my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Indie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so my number two is kind of another somewhat deep cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a title track to fan mail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't even explain why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm going to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That you're going to say silly ho for some reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Silly ho is also a really good song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like it's weird for me fan mail starts off really, really strong and then just kind of like
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[SPEAKER_01]: does this towards ends too long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the album is just too long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, you know, the, the track, the title track fan else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a little bit of template to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that kind of like, you know, sort of like triple double triple step beat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and T boss just again, like she's her voice is so unique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she doesn't sound like anybody that came before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't sound like anybody that came after.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even, you know, she's not a patty, LaBella, or in a refill or a Christina Aguilera, or whatever, but her voice has so much character to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And actually, it'll come back to my, you know, when I get to my number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though she doesn't always necessarily sing on key,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you still like feel it because you know she's got so much character to a voice one of the most recognizable voices right like if you just put on some headphones and you played somebody played you some vocals with no no music underneath you go oh let's see us yeah absolutely sure and can I give a shout out also to um
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[SPEAKER_00]: hat to the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't make my top five, but it was in my like, you know, the next five or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason again, it's like, what girl groups were in hats and ball caps and flipping them around like, Kingriffy Junior and that like, that's just was cool at that time, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were the first, they took like the aesthetic of like MC light kind of, you know, and a lot of the sort of Tom Boyish rappers female rappers at the time, and they turned it into R&B.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're in in being Tom Boyish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're so attractive at the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean exactly exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what's number one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to move on as creep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Creep is just, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I have the same problem with creep as some of the songs that you had mentioned before in that that song was on the radio so much and it's very unique because from the first note you know exactly what that song is right at the beginning you're like okay this is creeps about to play but yeah it was a so overplayed but it is you know it is very signature it is
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and someone I read somewhere, someone on the internet was like, do you realize T-boss is off-key distance higher songs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You recognize it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, if he was on, you know, if T-boss was like, hey, I want to be on American Idol, Randy, Randy would be like, this is no for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, for me for you, like, you know, and because she, you know, she'd be pitchy or whatever whatever he would say, but it doesn't even matter because her
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's almost like a record scratch a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it just fits the song perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes indeed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, before we get out of here, how would you rank the first three albums as far as quality?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, crazy sexy cool is my favorite of the three by far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not my favorite just because it's time and place, but it is clearly their best album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is clearly like production-wise, like they put some money into this thing to make this thing from front to back sound tremendous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is like an adult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is like we know that these women are stars and we're going to put together like the best produced thing that we possibly can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is a very well produced record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first album sounds a little dated to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's just like I said earlier, it's kind of noisy and busy sounds like a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really associate here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, it's like a better version of the ABC album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of by ABC you mean another bad create yes another career just making sure people people may not and people may be like He's talking about the jacks like what are we doing there the real the real ones know yeah Fan mail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think again like I said it starts out really good and then it's just it gets it's too long And by like the middle it just kind of like falls off
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[SPEAKER_00]: to me it's missing what fan mail is missing is what I really love about their first album which is the joy in the fun and the young energy and the fun fan mail seems like someone took the life out of these women and they had to put out a professional record and I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: youngness in them and that they're older, of course, it's like seven years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they should age up, but it's almost like
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... did what's the term that i'm thinking of that so it's like too civilized like it's too it's too mus- oh you know we're we're music professionals so this is how we have to sound we're as the first album was like no these people are cool is all hell i don't care if some of this stuff doesn't work i just that they're just cool
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I think there's parts in fan mail where they're trying to be like joky and have fun, but it doesn't sound as effortless as it did the first sounds like they've been beaten down by this music industry sometime right which I think is probably pretty accurate yeah yeah so but you know that what a what a transcendent group though you know I don't know where someone like Beyonce considers TLC or whatever, but like
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[SPEAKER_00]: There has to be a lot of music from the 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially from a female perspective that comes from like this TLCD and yeah, I mean without TLC there's no destiny's child without TLC there's no pink without destiny's child.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no spice girls like all of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about pink by the way from the perspective of like her first album is is way more R&B than she would ever do ever again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Pink is a great R&B singer or would be a great soul singer if she chose to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first album is actually the album that I think sounds the least like she's supposed to sound.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever who ever decided to make that pivot, whether it was her or the label or whatever, like you did the right thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, but it is interesting because most artists don't really get don't make a genre pivot and then become more successful afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, who would have thought that in 2026, you know, pink is still certainly a viable touring act, whereas like I feel like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even, you know, she came out around the same time as like Christina and Jessica and all those other like pop girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Pink is probably the biggest draw still out of all of those artists and she would have been the last person out of that group that you thought would have had a career 25 years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pink is Crystal's favorite artist of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, which means I have seen Pink and Concert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I have also seen, I saw a pink open for Lenny credits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No way, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my pink story, I don't remember if I've told you about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might've told you about this, but so we pre-buy tickets to see Pink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's one of those credit card deals and you know, you get to early pre sale or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we buy tickets and then when we get to the actual arena, the new chase arena and San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really like our seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, I didn't realize this is where we were sitting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were almost like parallel to where she was on stage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in some instances, we're kind of behind her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no, this is not working, especially since it's Crystal's favorite artist of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I jump on ticket master.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in some of my, my thought, my theory is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I already paid for these tickets six months ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'd be different if I just paid for them today and then had to buy more tickets, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That money's already spent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I look and it's maybe five minutes before this concert is supposed to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's still selling these tickets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's seats that are probably in the secondary market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would guess like $400 to $500 seats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they're 200 a piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, do what you want?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, we're buying them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, in her heart of heart, she probably was very excited, but she's also a her mentality is not necessarily to be as freely with spending money, like just how she grew up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So her instinct was like, oh, this is, I don't know, I can't say yes to this, but I'm not gonna stop you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was very glad that we did that because as you know, a lot of her act is trapezing around the whole arena and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there were times where she was like right on top of us and like right in front of us and it was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other seats that we were at, they were kind of behind all the action.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we would have, you know, we would have had a good view, but it wouldn't have been as close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're welcome pink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We spent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We bought four lots of money on pink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think that was it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let me check my notes real quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yep, that is it for our top five on TLC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what you will see is, uh, we'll have the, the playlist of TLC up, with including the top five songs and other songs that Mike wants to mix in on the playlist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So be a look out for that 50 for 50 dot net.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check us out for Mike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am double G. We will see when we see you piece out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are back for our top five episode covering TLC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did our previous episode where we talked about crazy, sexy cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked a lot about their career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice little history lesson in music and in the mid 90s as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Mike, let's kick off the top five for TLC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just kind of based on what you were saying in the previous episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to guess that we're a little bit different here and which is good because I think we are because that pulls some deep cuts because and also because you're making playlists and we're publishing those playlists and we're putting out posts on 50 for 50 dot net.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you get your your mix tape master game on
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm digging a man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saving them all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have this list of all the shows that we've done and the top five's and the playlists.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully people are getting a kick out of it because what I realized is people who know us
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[SPEAKER_00]: And who are close to us are probably pretty familiar with kind of how we are and specifically how you are with your music head knowledge and and your our pop culture fandoms of things and information and just knowing a lot of the the trivia and the history to stuff right but.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Google does it's thing and start surfacing some of our stuff, there's going to be some people who probably don't know the history or haven't really heard, I brought up Amy Winehouse last time, but haven't really heard Amy Winehouse's stuff, you know, oh my gosh, like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can't believe I had never heard this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For so I'm hopeful that these playlists are getting listened to and people could pick up on some of the things that we really enjoy about these albums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so do you want to go first?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want me to go first?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I went first last time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so number five for me, the only song off of fan mail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this song is a, I could see if people thought it was a little bit preachy, but because of who TLC is to their audience, I really like the message.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is unpretty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was kind of their last real, I don't know if I would consider it like a hit hit, like some of their bigger songs, but I mean, it was a number one record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the moment, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the video, I think,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say left eye was doing sign language in the video, like it was just very thoughtful song, and again, their feminists, they're standing up for women, girl power, I just I really love the theme and the message from unpretty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number five is completely on a different tack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the only song from their first album that I put on my list and it's Baby Baby Baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, they came out real hard with ain't too proud to beg and baby, baby, baby was kind of like them smoothing it out a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for whatever reason, I just remember them singing that song on our signal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and left I came out she had the key tar and she was playing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I was playing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is vividly as I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, you know, women with instruments, maybe it's that kind of, I don't know whatever it is, but that performance was dope and that song is still really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in the episode where we talked about Crazy Sexy Cool, I mentioned that, you know, when I was in high school, I'm 15 or 16 when they when they drop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that performance on our scenario when chili is singing the, you know, the hook of that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I just melted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I was like done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, who is this person and they need to be in my life?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is too funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just, there's something so endearing about her to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She just, actually seems like she would be so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, both Chile and T-Bah, I seem like they would be a lot of fun to hang out with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: T-Bahs will get you in the trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but she was probably like, make fun of you too a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's probably cracking on you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, it is in my top five as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was, I think it was very, it was a very important part of that first album because it just allowed that song to get played in more places so that you could know who they were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, well, it's like if you thought TLC was just a rap group and remember, this is at a time when a lot of radio stations, both pop stations and R&B stations would not play hip hop at all, baby, baby, baby was away from the kind of getting that door as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was there when will I see you smile again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm going to be going a little bit more chalk than you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So number four for me comes from Crazy Sexy Cool and
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why this song like, and I'll tell you, so the bigger singles on crazy sexy cool creep and red light special did not make my list, but I think this was the fourth single digging on you, but for the reason that baby baby baby works or waterfalls works,
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, wrap or R&B or adult, if this is, you can just play it anywhere in it and just crosses over and I just really liked, I think that song was also really smart for for their album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my number four pick is actually from the 3D album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, you know, again, a lot of people don't necessarily listen to her page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot that it is even existed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You forgot it existed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not an awesome record, but there are some good songs on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was the third, second or third single from the album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's called
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dallas Austin produced it and this is around the same time Dallas Austin was doing songs with pink like don't let me get me So it has that kind of like like I could hear pink singing this song But instead chillies singing this song, but it's also like lyrics about hey, you know, I know that
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[SPEAKER_01]: we're in a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that you might be a little weirded out for me, but I'm damaged by my previous relationships.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, you know, it's got a lot of resonance there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just cool to hear like TLC basically doing a rock record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to go back and listen to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three for me was baby, baby, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can go you already talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My number three is waterfalls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, again, like when crazy sexy cool came out, Mary jays my life came out either the week before the week after I don't remember which, but I played those two albums and I had them on cassette.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I played those two tapes over and over and over again, like I memorized those albums and waterfalls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: stuck out immediately because it was so different than all of the music that they had been out before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was like a live band, very slow, funky kind of feel, and you know, it just had like substance to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, again, it still resonates today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like even, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: summer in 1995, I'm like, did I have cable?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I must have had cable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure I saw the video more than enough, but you know, regardless, the video, I don't even think about the video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The song is just fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you like your favorite show also has like something that has to do with the song that you really like and those mediums like cross into each other, it's kind of like one of those fun moments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you guys like the same thing that I like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, there's an episode of Martin and I don't even remember the episode is about, but but some Gina was doing something and I think she realized that, you know, maybe this was a mistake and Martin goes, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gina, don't go chase a waterfall's baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Gina goes, I know, I know, but when she says I know, she does like the choreography to the video.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like, I was like, I died.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I love this show so much, because they're listening to the same songs that I'm listening to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so number two for me, because waterfall's number one, by the way, for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: game it up early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two is what about your friends?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember watching that video and thinking like these ladies are like just way too cool for anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're just like so they're so charismatic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't really care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're wearing the baggy clothes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is the video where T-Boss kind of shows off a little bit of a physique because I forgot what she's wearing but like one of her arms is bare and she like throws a bicep flex I was like oh look at she got a little bit of muscle there T-Boss were working out and there actually no it was chili it was chili it was chili is like tiny right and then chili flexes the bicep and I was like oh she's she been doing some some some curls some dumbbell curls look at chili
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, just remember that video thinking like, they're kind of on top of the world to me being 16.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go on, like, okay, these are the three coolest chicks I've ever seen in my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Indie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so my number two is kind of another somewhat deep cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a title track to fan mail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't even explain why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm going to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That you're going to say silly ho for some reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Silly ho is also a really good song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like it's weird for me fan mail starts off really, really strong and then just kind of like
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[SPEAKER_01]: does this towards ends too long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the album is just too long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, you know, the, the track, the title track fan else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a little bit of template to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that kind of like, you know, sort of like triple double triple step beat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and T boss just again, like she's her voice is so unique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she doesn't sound like anybody that came before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't sound like anybody that came after.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even, you know, she's not a patty, LaBella, or in a refill or a Christina Aguilera, or whatever, but her voice has so much character to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And actually, it'll come back to my, you know, when I get to my number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though she doesn't always necessarily sing on key,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you still like feel it because you know she's got so much character to a voice one of the most recognizable voices right like if you just put on some headphones and you played somebody played you some vocals with no no music underneath you go oh let's see us yeah absolutely sure and can I give a shout out also to um
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[SPEAKER_00]: hat to the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't make my top five, but it was in my like, you know, the next five or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason again, it's like, what girl groups were in hats and ball caps and flipping them around like, Kingriffy Junior and that like, that's just was cool at that time, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were the first, they took like the aesthetic of like MC light kind of, you know, and a lot of the sort of Tom Boyish rappers female rappers at the time, and they turned it into R&B.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're in in being Tom Boyish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're so attractive at the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean exactly exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what's number one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to move on as creep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Creep is just, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I have the same problem with creep as some of the songs that you had mentioned before in that that song was on the radio so much and it's very unique because from the first note you know exactly what that song is right at the beginning you're like okay this is creeps about to play but yeah it was a so overplayed but it is you know it is very signature it is
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and someone I read somewhere, someone on the internet was like, do you realize T-boss is off-key distance higher songs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You recognize it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, if he was on, you know, if T-boss was like, hey, I want to be on American Idol, Randy, Randy would be like, this is no for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, for me for you, like, you know, and because she, you know, she'd be pitchy or whatever whatever he would say, but it doesn't even matter because her
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's almost like a record scratch a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it just fits the song perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes indeed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, before we get out of here, how would you rank the first three albums as far as quality?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, crazy sexy cool is my favorite of the three by far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not my favorite just because it's time and place, but it is clearly their best album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is clearly like production-wise, like they put some money into this thing to make this thing from front to back sound tremendous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is like an adult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is like we know that these women are stars and we're going to put together like the best produced thing that we possibly can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is a very well produced record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first album sounds a little dated to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's just like I said earlier, it's kind of noisy and busy sounds like a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really associate here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, it's like a better version of the ABC album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of by ABC you mean another bad create yes another career just making sure people people may not and people may be like He's talking about the jacks like what are we doing there the real the real ones know yeah Fan mail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think again like I said it starts out really good and then it's just it gets it's too long And by like the middle it just kind of like falls off
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[SPEAKER_00]: to me it's missing what fan mail is missing is what I really love about their first album which is the joy in the fun and the young energy and the fun fan mail seems like someone took the life out of these women and they had to put out a professional record and I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: youngness in them and that they're older, of course, it's like seven years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they should age up, but it's almost like
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... did what's the term that i'm thinking of that so it's like too civilized like it's too it's too mus- oh you know we're we're music professionals so this is how we have to sound we're as the first album was like no these people are cool is all hell i don't care if some of this stuff doesn't work i just that they're just cool
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I think there's parts in fan mail where they're trying to be like joky and have fun, but it doesn't sound as effortless as it did the first sounds like they've been beaten down by this music industry sometime right which I think is probably pretty accurate yeah yeah so but you know that what a what a transcendent group though you know I don't know where someone like Beyonce considers TLC or whatever, but like
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[SPEAKER_00]: There has to be a lot of music from the 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially from a female perspective that comes from like this TLCD and yeah, I mean without TLC there's no destiny's child without TLC there's no pink without destiny's child.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no spice girls like all of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about pink by the way from the perspective of like her first album is is way more R&B than she would ever do ever again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Pink is a great R&B singer or would be a great soul singer if she chose to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first album is actually the album that I think sounds the least like she's supposed to sound.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever who ever decided to make that pivot, whether it was her or the label or whatever, like you did the right thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, but it is interesting because most artists don't really get don't make a genre pivot and then become more successful afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, who would have thought that in 2026, you know, pink is still certainly a viable touring act, whereas like I feel like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even, you know, she came out around the same time as like Christina and Jessica and all those other like pop girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Pink is probably the biggest draw still out of all of those artists and she would have been the last person out of that group that you thought would have had a career 25 years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pink is Crystal's favorite artist of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, which means I have seen Pink and Concert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I have also seen, I saw a pink open for Lenny credits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No way, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my pink story, I don't remember if I've told you about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might've told you about this, but so we pre-buy tickets to see Pink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's one of those credit card deals and you know, you get to early pre sale or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we buy tickets and then when we get to the actual arena, the new chase arena and San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really like our seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, I didn't realize this is where we were sitting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were almost like parallel to where she was on stage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in some instances, we're kind of behind her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no, this is not working, especially since it's Crystal's favorite artist of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I jump on ticket master.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in some of my, my thought, my theory is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I already paid for these tickets six months ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'd be different if I just paid for them today and then had to buy more tickets, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That money's already spent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I look and it's maybe five minutes before this concert is supposed to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's still selling these tickets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's seats that are probably in the secondary market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would guess like $400 to $500 seats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they're 200 a piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, do what you want?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, we're buying them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, in her heart of heart, she probably was very excited, but she's also a her mentality is not necessarily to be as freely with spending money, like just how she grew up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So her instinct was like, oh, this is, I don't know, I can't say yes to this, but I'm not gonna stop you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was very glad that we did that because as you know, a lot of her act is trapezing around the whole arena and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there were times where she was like right on top of us and like right in front of us and it was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other seats that we were at, they were kind of behind all the action.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we would have, you know, we would have had a good view, but it wouldn't have been as close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're welcome pink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We spent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We bought four lots of money on pink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think that was it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let me check my notes real quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yep, that is it for our top five on TLC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what you will see is, uh, we'll have the, the playlist of TLC up, with including the top five songs and other songs that Mike wants to mix in on the playlist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So be a look out for that 50 for 50 dot net.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check us out for Mike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am double G. We will see when we see you piece out.
