Jan. 6, 2026

New Edition Top 5: Group Hits & Solo Classics | Top 5 (50 For 50)

New Edition Top 5: Group Hits & Solo Classics | Top 5 (50 For 50)

Struggling to rank the massive catalog of R&B icons New Edition? In this special "Top 5" supplemental episode of the 50 for 50 podcast, hosts Garrett Gonzales and Mike Joseph take on the impossible task of narrowing down the best of the best. With decades of hits and legendary solo careers to navigate, fans often debate which tracks truly define the NE legacy.

Mike and Garrett break down their personal Top 5 favorite New Edition group songs, followed by a deep dive into the best solo and sub-group tracks from Bobby Brown, Bell Biv DeVoe, Ralph Tresvant, and Johnny Gill. By the end of this episode, you’ll have a curated roadmap of R&B excellence and perhaps a few new favorites for your playlist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we're back on 50 for 50 here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the post heartbreak episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we're also going to do on some of these episodes is the albums that we just, you know, know a lot of information about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it would be interesting to create like a little bit of like a supplemental

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[SPEAKER_00]: podcast to the episode which you just heard, which is episode one, the very first one that we've done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you haven't heard episode one, I would go back and listen to episode one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it'll be more meaningful to listen episode one before you listen to this because what we're going to do is we're going to nerd out a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the new edition catalog, and I'm calling this series top five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I told Mike this off air that Sean Stockman from Boys to Men has come out with a brand new podcast and it's really sort of filling the void that Quest Love Supreme left for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: mainstream pop culture kind of interviews and not focused directly on music and he didn't always do music he did pop culture but like for instance and you'll you'll tell when we recorded this if you follow Quest of his first episode is Cameron Crowe who's got a book out so that's not really music but it is pop culture and I am definitely going to listen so I'm in on everything Quest love by the way so that that is not the problem but music nerdiness

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sean Stockman is kind of picked up that baton for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Sean's lean right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he does a segment at the end of his show called Top Five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he asks a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't want to make it sound like I'm copying Sean because I'm not actually copying Sean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who I am copying when I thought of the idea is actually an old Chris Rock movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And until you mentioned it, I had completely forgotten that top five was a crit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was never my Chris Rock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even about Chris Rock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't remember that top five was a movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the bassist of the movie wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: about top five music acts, but interspersed into the movie where people talking about their top five favorite hip-hop artists.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I thought when I was coming up with this, but this is not just going to be top five lists.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to ask Mike his thoughts on certain things and we'll have top five when it is opportune, but in other instances, there won't be a top five because I have three questions for Mike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two of them will be top five related one of them won't be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the top five best new addition songs?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, that's from the rough man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's such a big catalog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, now this is specifically as a group, we'll do something outside of the new addition group in a second, but this is specifically all of the albums in which the group of the new addition was together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I'm going to go with if it isn't loving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you stand the rain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just talking about heartbreak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are, you know, probably my two favorite new edition songs overall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a throw a song in there that doesn't get mentioned a lot, but we talked about it during our heartbreak discussion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Helplessly in love is a song that I've always really, really liked, and it doesn't get enough love, but that is probably an all-timeer for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool it now, just because cool it now is iconic, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I was, I remember I was a fourth grade when that song came out and everybody was singing and rapping along with that song like it's just such a From a cultural standpoint and it's a good song and how many good songs Some by children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you still like vibe with today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that song and I'm gonna interrupt you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what that song reminds me of which is what said obviously?

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[SPEAKER_00]: New edition is created under the idea of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: you guys can be a version of the Jackson five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no addition to the Jackson five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that song is an 80's version of a Jackson five song, because it has a wrap in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, yeah, I mean, it is kind of like, the way I see it and you're absolutely right, is that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool it now is kind of an update on candy girl and candy girl was an update of ABC Right one of my earliest met like the melodies are actually like inverted or something that is crazy Right I remember when I was a little kid Listening to the radio and they would actually mix the two songs together So candy girl and ABC would you know Becandy girl, ABC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's just kind of like an attempt to redo candy girl, but again, like I who doesn't remember that rap wrong Bobby Ricky might, you know, so it's it is iconic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to pick one more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like 20 songs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't put it here, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it can't be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still in love with you, but in Spanish can't be that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I forgot about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I know Ricky Bellbe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, this is actually pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're seeing it in Spanish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with a little bit of love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all a taste.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, then, you know, that song, once in a lifetime, groove, helplessly in love, those are nice bridges between that, you know, when they're really young to where they start growing into themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always like that idea of like, okay, here's the songs that are kind of in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hard break is like when they're becoming adults and this stuff is when they're young kids and then here are these songs in the middle that kind of are this in between that I really think are cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's funny when I saw them when I saw all six in Boston, they opened the show with once in a lifetime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I'm going to give.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this isn't a top five song for me, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I was kind of, no, I've been to a club in how many years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, you know, because I was single in my later 20, I was married and then in my late 20s, early 30s, I was single again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there was a time space of where, you know, I'm hanging out with younger cousins or I'm hanging out with younger colleagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we may end up at a club and I'm like, okay, like I know what to do here, like it's no biggie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you kind of get a little bit older and you're like, ah, right, I probably don't really need to be here anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was a time frame in which, you know, I may have been at a lounge or a club or a bar where there was like music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always thought hot tonight should have been a club banger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a jam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't like it wasn't really like it didn't really have a chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, at that point, new addition was almost getting a little too old for the club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that song, if felt like that song was like, y'all kind of forgot about us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it didn't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was so disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it didn't look so accurate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's it's very song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is not in my top five, but I just wanted to shout that because because on our episode, we didn't really talk too much about one love because it was kind of a failure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to blame, puff daddy for that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to blame the

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[SPEAKER_01]: to blame Sean Combs, but I think New Edition Blame Sean Combs for that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they got out of their contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That album was like on hold for a couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so frustrating as a new edition fan and waiting for that thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that is not under my top five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am going to go with, so the two songs that you mentioned have to be on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you stand the rain if it isn't less?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Telephone man, I think it's my favorite new edition song from their early albums.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is just so easy to sing along and it is so, it brings me back to the 1980s when you had to dial the operator when you had to, you know, it's just like the way that that song is so song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yep, I remember those days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here's some funny stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to karaoke with some friends last week, last Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a celebration for two of my friends celebrating 40 years of friendship so they met in 1985.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And overarching theme of karaoke was songs from 1985.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I sang Mr. Telephone Man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is a room full of white people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So nobody's jamming to Mr. Telephone Man the way, brown folks would be jamming to Mr. Telephone Man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A this song is hard to sing for one person because you're essentially singing three people's parts because Ricky Bobby and Ralph all sing on right song

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can sing the Bobby parties here that I can sing when they're working in the Ralph Farts right the other thing is in 2025 with these lyrics like if you put a 23 year old in that karaoke spot listen to song they'd be like what the hell are you singing about what is the telephone man like you know awesome but the idea of

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[SPEAKER_01]: of your line going dead and having to dial 611 and all this other stuff like is just completely foreign to anybody who was under the age of like 30.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to add a little bit of love that will give me four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have to add something from home again and it is probably going to be I'm still in love with you because that is

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[SPEAKER_00]: That song, again, 1996, I am a 20 years old, ish, I am about, you know, two, three years later, I have a kid in a married and then four years there, I have a second kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I am in that space of like, you know, I'm kind of not really

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[SPEAKER_00]: thinking of marriage necessarily but knowing that I want to have a family at a young age and so I'm like thinking of like, you know, the emotion on that song from Ralph, I think it's just fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I've always, always loved that song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be my five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I would know how to rank it, but to give my top five, that's my top five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even trying to write it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to change by the time this episode goes live there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you think about 1990, when these guys branch off of and do their solo stuff, so we can even add the the don't be cruel version and maybe even Bobby as well, the the Bobby Brown album that followed the the

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about the albums, and how would you rank them post heartbreak?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have the Ralph Tresman album, the Johnny Gail album, Bill Ludovo, and let's just throw don't be cruel and Bobby in there as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what order would you put those in as far as your enjoyment is concerned?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're just spinning them again and again and again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: man, this is another hard question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would probably, first for me would probably be Johnny's album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, just because it stands up to the test of time, during like, if you'd ask me this question in 1990, it wouldn't be the same order, but in 2025, someone who's a little bit more mature,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Johnny's album strikes me as like the first one I would plan to actually play that album almost all the way through fairly recently in the last couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Johnny would be number one, um, I might go with Ralph's second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't be cruel third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually Ralph's second, the Bobby album third, don't be cruel fourth

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[SPEAKER_00]: your last is my first, my first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, poison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, now, I'm not saying that these songs are particularly the greatest songs I've ever heard, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: from beginning to end, like how those songs are placed, like what my ears expect when I put that album on, like how energetic I get, like I can go to the gym and throw that album on and just be pumped through my entire workout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's another thing I mentioned in the club just a second

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, in those days of me going to the club or going to music and hanging with people, there are two songs that I've seen that get the crowd hyped, that are not West Coast hip-hop, right, that's not too pop, that's not too short or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The two songs that will get the place jump and just by like the initial beat or the initial sound that comes out,

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of those is hypnotized by notorious bg and the second one is poison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got the big assured, and then we're going to do a big e album at some point in the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope you wear that again, but poison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is the song that if you have a dead party and you throw that thing on, the people are like, okay, now we're ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm agree with you there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it like from a actual musicianship standpoint, like that album is heavily based on the production styles,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and the producers that they chose to help them with the album, it is less about those three guys as a unit and what they brought to the table and it is more about their fantastic choices of what they did, but and look the lyrics as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some question about fantastic, uh, you know, do I don't know if I've listened to do me that might be a little bit of a skip these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's wrong me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I and I also remember which of those three albums that we're talking about are the five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know which one resonated the most in real time with my friend circle Ralph and Johnny a little bit older.

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[SPEAKER_00]: BBD was right in the zone for all of us at that point, and we're 14 years old or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the album that people love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going poison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, I'm going with Bobby, because that was another BMG album for me that I just endlessly played.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I may go out on a limb and say good enough is my favorite Bobby Brown song of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Bobby is people sleep on that record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only problem with Bobby is that it's too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you cut like the last four songs off the record, it's a really, really good album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It, you know, there are some interesting choices as well because he's got Whitney on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, you have to have Whitney on it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's your lady.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is one of the biggest stars in all of music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about humping around in 2025?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I listened to that song three or four days ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's I was in crazy about it then I thought it was okay wasn't the song for Bobby to come back in the door with um but you know it's fine it's a time and place response though right right well I yes

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, here's his reputation and he's basically telling you that he's not that dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I guess it's more of a time and place record, but I think good enough shows off a certain tenderness that you'd almost don't really see with him as, you know, and it's a sign of like a little bit of growth as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's maturity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, his voice, his singing voice is more mature.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that song also has like a very like a old school, you know, then even it had like an old school vibe to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm going Bobby to an hour ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next three are like, like as far as the the one that I listen to the most, I listen to the don't be cruel

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[SPEAKER_00]: I listen to Ralph's sensitivity, the Ralph Trustman album, because of sensitivity, probably next and then Johnny was just, I think it was because I always found him to be, what is the term?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what the term is, but I didn't set Johnny seemed a little squared to me when I was growing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he seemed a little bit older than those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, how much older is he than everybody else?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like a year or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not even that far, but again, we have the maturity, his voice is mature.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would put if I'm being honest, I would put the Johnny Gill album last just because of my relationship to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now if I listen, I listen to some of it recently and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It ages very well by the way, it ages really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I may change that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, if it, you know, as the time goes by, but I'll go poison, bobby, don't be cruel, Ralph, and then Johnny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're, you're, uh, almost mine in Russia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, inverted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all, I think, to this day, they're all great records.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would listen to any of them at the drop of the hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is not one of them is bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now here's the last one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Top five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Best songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: by all of the members, but you cannot pick new addition albums.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that means L.S.G.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is on the table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that means the song that we discussed in the last episode on Johnny's album with all those dudes together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is on the table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That also means the soundtrack albums are on the table.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, my, my, my.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, just because that's an all timer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My, my, and poison definitely to have those two one there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm gonna show you something and this is something that a not a lot of people own, but I do to show you how much of a fan I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hoody Mack, I have BBD's hoody Mack on vinyl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, okay, can we just take as an aside you you brought it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I actually wanted to talk about this for a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just said poison was my favorite album of of the non new edition albums.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been more disappointed in my life with their follow up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first song that we thought was going to be the single for the second album gets completely shelved for sample reasons, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the gangsters was was dope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's kind of a cassette single.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very similar to what was on poison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not too too too too too much of a change up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that they were even on the fresh prince of bell air doing year that song and then when the album drops and that song is not on the album I thought I'd like gotten like a screwed up copy of it or something like what happened like where is it like that and you know we talked about the internet not being around that was a giant mystery to me and one in which I was always looking for the answer which is why this song never came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So while somebody needs to clarify that up, clarify that up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone needs to clear that up for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if anybody knows the real deal about white gangster is not on the hoody Mac album, please let us know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I thought gangster was a banger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they ended up coming out with his whole album about smoking weed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like six months after the chronic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Mike Biven is talking about he palms the basketball like the booty and You know something in your eyes is a good song and that's where I was leading to something in your eyes Which was I think the second single from hooting back written by baby face

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[SPEAKER_01]: is one of those like this is the summer 93 so there's like knocking the boots by htown I want to get freaky with you by silk and I want to go downtown by SWV and all these records that are just like horny horny ass records and I'm 17 years of something like pcorny level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And something you're eyes is like straight up filthy, like that song is just about like sex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ricky Bell sings shit out of it, like it's it's it's just it is a great song and it up being really the only hit from the album.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's that's my number three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I got through a Bobby song in there and I'm actually going don't be cruel, uh, because I think like the singing verse followed by the rap verse followed by like that that was super novel at the time, um, and you know, I, I hope that Bobby gets the appropriate level of credit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He deserves for really kind of like bridging the gap between hip hop and R&B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of being a new addition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Candy Girl was like the first big R&B hit that had a wrapping in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so new addition was super ahead of the curve when it came to like merging hip hop and R&B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so don't be cruel to my number four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for my number five,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, when you get to the fifth one, there's always like, you, your brain is going, but it's really, Yeah, like, yeah, you have like 20 of them tied for fifth and you got to get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know what, and I'm going to say this because I was just listening to it last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to rock with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the quiet, the quiet storm version is another like great song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: You talked earlier about like once in a lifetime, grooving how there are songs that kind of bridge to get between like young person songs and like mature person songs, I feel like tenderoni and rock which you did a really good job of being like, they could appeal to young people, but they still have like an edge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so my Bobby song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned good enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I, I go back and forth between good enough and every little step as far as my favorite Bobby song since I said good enough already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll put every little step on that list obviously the video pulls that over the top of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is a Mike Tyson remakes video the Mike Tyson wing Brady version that is hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'll go every little step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go poison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pick a different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: BBD slow jam though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The slow gem that I'm going to pick is win or less you smile again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now there is a there's some corn in that song, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're in the dudes in the Tuxitos or whatever in the video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are trying to kind of recreate can you stand the rain on their own is what I always took it as.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, when it comes to the slow jam mix tapes, like that is one of those songs for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to take anything from Ralph's album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will take the new addition song that I mentioned from Johnny's album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one's for this one's for me and you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then for my fifth, I mean, I'm leaning heavy bellbridge of over here, but it's specifically for the word to the mother remix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, that was just special for me seeing that video on the CMC California music channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and like seeing all those dudes and then Devos rapping and he has the the place cards of the songs that they're songs saying and then like you said Bobby and Ralph's rap, which is great in that song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are my five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we went through the entire album, we went through what that album meant to us and this little supplemental shorter episode about the top five list that is going to end our journey with heartbreak and I'm I'm kind of sad because I just love everything about that album and we also didn't talk about you're not my kind of girl true I don't know why I don't know why she just wasn't Ralph's tight man

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[SPEAKER_00]: because because I think Bivin Devore like he's he's buggin' what's going on with this dude If you are the type of girl that a man we were proud to call his own

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is she then not the right type of girl for you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I saw something about, I think Ralph may have actually been trying to explain the genesis of the lyrics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he said it was like a real life, sending it because jam and Lewis historically, like this is how they put their stuff together, they would hang out with the people to get their thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how control becomes control because they learn a little bit

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trauma is in some of the things that she likes and dislikes and they did the same thing with these guys They were hanging out with them and so it's this it's a as far as Ralph said This was a little bit autobiographical where there was some Lady friend who was just dope and just was not the one for him for some reason

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was apologizing for it, he, you know, he's a type of guy, Mr. CNS I. T. I. I. T. Well, okay, but is it, is it a little bit of a backhanded compliment in a sense?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that even then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of like a diss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, you, that, that's what you say to somebody that you're trying to give like the brush off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's not beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I hope you enjoyed this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, if you want to be part of the discord, ggbspnmedia.com, Mike, we are done with the entire first album and we'll do our second album when you next hear us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, for Mike, I am double G. We will see you when we see you piece out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gladiol.