Feb. 12, 2026
Ranking The Jacksons: Top 5 Hits & Their Best Albums
Michael Jackson and The Jacksons redefined the sound of soul and disco, but which "adult era" albums truly reign supreme? In this episode of Top 5, hosts Garrett Gonzales and Mike Joseph take on the monumental task of ranking every Jacksons album from their transformative post-Motown years.
Many listeners debate if the group ever topped their early success, but the "Epic" era brought a level of creative freedom that changed everything. We break down the evolution from Philadelphia International funk to the self-produced genius of Destiny and Triumph. The centerpiece of the episode is our definitive ranking of the Top 5 Jacksons songs, featuring heavyweights like "Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)," "Blame It On The Boogie," and the cinematic masterpiece "This Place Hotel."
Whether you’re a die-hard MJ fan or a crate-digger looking for the best disco-era grooves, this episode provides a data-driven look at the music that paved the way for Off The Wall. Join us as we settle the score on the Jacksons' legacy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here is the next episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Mike, this is our top five on the albums and so are not, well, we'll talk about the albums in a second, but the songs of the Jackson's I was almost getting ahead of myself because I wanted to sneak this one up on you, but why don't we just do this now, since I flipped the intro here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to rank or I want you to rank the Jackson's albums from worst to best in your mind worst to best yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only six, measure three, four, and you don't have to rank the live album because it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't worry about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Worst to best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So six is going places.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Going going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just not a great record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fifth is probably the self titled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fourth is 2300.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Third is victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Second is triumph and first is destiny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I would flip flop Destiny and Triumph, um, but I would actually have the self titled album third.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you hit me with a, uh, uh, a text that I found very surprising.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I was just an in the moment kind of text because I get when I hear the first Jackson's album, I get into like a feeling of
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[SPEAKER_01]: rediscovery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I would say it because as we we talked about on the 50 for 50 review of the album, my relationship with the Jackson's comes later when I'm actually going out and buying my own CDs and and I'm like, I know that there's this period of Michael Jackson music that I just don't know very well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I want to just dive into it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy yourself is really kind of like the first part of that journey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whenever I hear that song and then I go back and I think about the the video of Michael dancing and doing the robot and all that stuff like it just makes me feel a certain way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have it third and then I would probably go victory and then, you know, I don't know Jack 2300 Jackson Street enough to even like really rank it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whether it's, I'll take your word for it that it's a better than going places because going places is really a tough one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd better than going places.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's do our top five here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are our top five, Jackson's tracks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not talking about Jackson five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not talking about Michael's solo tracks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about tracks exclusively cut as the Jackson's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have some honorable mentions, and I wanted to get your thoughts on one specifically, because there's one song on going places
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I really love, but it's in that really seropy Michael zone that is sometimes hit and sometimes miss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is find me a girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought you're going to say a different song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you were thinking heaven, heaven knows I love you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that I have a little bit of an affinity for that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I think find me a girl is a good song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: to a puppy dog, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael is corny, but you know, he was what 18, 19 years old, it is an appropriate puppy love kind of song, but also he's like, you know, isn't there a part where he's like, and the brother's like, what you're going to do is like, I'm going to make sweet love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, it's a very
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, R&B ballad in sort of like the OJ zone or like, you know, something similar to what Gamble of Hope would do in a time like Teddy Pendergrass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're trying to make him, like kind of a love and man sort of get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another one on my honorable mentions is good times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can distinctly remember where I was the first time I heard that song, and I just moved to Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, summer, late summer, early fall of 1984.
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[SPEAKER_00]: very common to R&B stations at the time after like Madaclocke would hit the quiet storm and it would be just like slow jams and good times came when I was like I've never heard this song before it's clearly Michael Jackson singing when did this song come out and you know come to find out it was on the first Jackson's album but that's that's also a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also in my honorable mention,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like walk right now was specifically made because they know that they could really perform an incredible set to that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but they never performed in life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I just see, I think dancing when I hear that song, like just the way that it is, it's just like, oh, this, this is like would have been perfect for a live concert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then my other one is, uh, and I had to leave this off because I didn't want too many songs from Triumph, but, uh, lovely one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really love lovely one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song is weirdly worn off of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I will say, uh, several years ago, uh, someone who is fairly famous and has an Afro and where's a pick, a Afro picking is here, uh, sent me some stems of songs from the Triumph album and lovely one or like demos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And lovely one was one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I still have that in my iTunes library.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Mr. person with the app for one pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That person's got stems, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He talks about stems, sending people stems a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's his and he was also like, if you say any.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, if you tell anybody I own this Randy and LA, you were killed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not,
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[SPEAKER_01]: gigabytes of files this man have on his computer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As many gigabytes as exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the big bites.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever he's doing, he needs to back it up like three times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like seriously, like it has to be multiple times backed up so he doesn't lose it because he is he.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming he has stuff like locked in a safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so let's get into our top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you want to do this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to go from five to one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we trade off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you want to read your list or what do you want to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's, let's do five to one, but I'm actually going to let you start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned my affinity for the first Jackson's album because of my rediscovery of their music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy yourself is one of the happiest songs that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can hear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I just want to be happy, if I just want to be in a good mood, enjoy yourself is probably in the top 10 of all the songs that I know that just make me happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a very happy song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I respect that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number five, we mentioned it actually during the 50 for 50 episode when we were talking about victory for a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One more chance is my number five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think Randy was so in his bag on that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Janet covered it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: actually did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I remember buying the cassette single for if and being completely geeked out that that she had covered that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually know that song probably equally the same from both, but I wonder like I wonder how many people know that more for Janet then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like major play or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think at that time, anyway, I can't speak for now because of the internet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, the people who bought that single were like, oh, she did Randy Song on the Beast Act, because that was, it was never one more chance on the Jackson's album was never single, but it was one of those songs that like, if you were a real one, if you were like a fan like you knew that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A year after victory came out, Phil Collins released a song called One More Night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty much it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One more chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had his headphones on when that victory album came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He certainly did and this is not the same song, but there was a Michael Jack Jackson song called One More Chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's a good song, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is your number five?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One more chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to write these down because we are going to put a playlist together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Playlist together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my number four is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shake your body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, my favorite version might be the version that they do on the live album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so like they close the show with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they close the shows on the victory tour with it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just such like a, again, you talk about like feel good songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's such a great song and again for those of you who want to go on YouTube and check some of this stuff out type in Jackson's American bandstand or Jackson's soul train.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's American bandstand and they perform shake your body on that show and it's such a fun performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, the brothers all were in like these type baby blue space suits that you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a little weird looking, but it was the 70s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they staged this thing where, like, they invite people in the audience to come dance with them and that a cop comes and breaks it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it turns out the cop is a dancer too and started dancing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very can't be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a fun performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what is next for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number four is the title track to Destiny, interesting thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a very, it's an acoustic ballad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very unlike something that you would associate with Michael Jackson, but things it beautifully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I said in the 50th or 50 episode, some of the songs that Michael sang on those early Jackson's albums are him telling on himself and, you know, I think that song is very telling, you know, just where Michael's head was at as someone who's, you know, a young man in his late teens early 20s trying to figure himself out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the cool thing about one of the cool things about that song, other than just the fact that it's a great song, is like two turns of the way through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes from this sort of acoustic ballad to then this like Prague rock, like Tarsolo, kind of like freak out kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's also like I'm a but y'all gonna be spending a lot of time on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: go to YouTube, type in Jackson's midnight special, and there's a performance, it's actually all six of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wow, performing destiny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're lip syncing, like it's not live, but germane is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he wasn't on the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, so he's just there hanging out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was, I mean, he's performing with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, you know, it's like, we have a very special guest for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a problem with your main.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was their first appearance altogether since your main left the group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, when does your main do stuff with them again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's really only on two songs on victory, torture and weight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he off Motown at that point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He left Motown, joined Cloud Davis at Airsta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the Motown 25 performance was the impetus for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Motown 25 was built as like the reunion of the Jackson's, which
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they were very much still a group at that time, but it was like the reunion of German with the jacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the first time all six brothers were performing together in a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then after that performance, German left Motown and then was able to rejoin his brothers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm going to go blame it on the buggy next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, mine, mine are my top five are really just like jamming like happy songs like like when I think of the Jackson's I think of like these songs that I can just play at like a party and like people are people know exactly what's coming on like I mean if they're a certain age like oh yeah Jackson's I would expect this song to be played you know at this party though that's kind that's kind of what my list is I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, um, fun fact about blaming on the bookie, written by a guy named Michael Jackson, but not Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's, there was also a George town Hoya from the night, the mid-80s playing for playing with Patrick Ewing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His name was Michael Jackson as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, there are a lot of Michael Jackson's out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love, I actually love the the lyrics on this song, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's just, it's just, again, it's one of those I'm just like, and I know that I'm going to have a good time if I played this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually now, I just remembered something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a shot in my boy out, Maurice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maurice is my oldest friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've known each other since we were eight years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maurice and his brothers grew up,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember them saying that they went to like some kind of church meeting, and they were saying that blaming on the book he was demonic, where Michael sings, I can't control my feet, and it's like a kind of demonic possession or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why that just popped into my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Blame it on the good times, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, you know, better than blaming it on the alcohol.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is the next for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my number three is another destiny album track.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's pushed me away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I like that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is, yeah, just again, a beautiful, beautiful valid Michael sings so beautifully here, just like a master interpreter, a great string arrangement courtesy of Claire Fisher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of dreamy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, just again a beautiful, beautiful song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When Mike does a ballad and it's not like a corny ballad, I'm there for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This play so tell is next for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, we talked about it on the 50 for 50 review that we did about why this song is so, so good and
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just Michael and his bag like this is like the best version of Michael, I think at least the Michael that peep that that blew up and that people really really grew to love is like this version of what he's doing on this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it is actually my number two as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a certain type of song that Michael ended up being really good at doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dilly Jean's an example, dirty Diana's an example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Harbrake Hotel was kind of like the first time he was testing that out, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even like a test.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just like killed it on the first try.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just such a, it's, you know, a little goofy, I guess in a retrospect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can feel like there's real danger in the song like a dead, that song should have had a video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he go a little bit too far in the deep end with blood on the dance floor?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, although, look, I'm not going to lie, but on this one was a Bob.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I like that video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just remember, I think when that album came out, like, what a weird release, right, of that when that album came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just remember, I don't know if I read it in a magazine or Teddy Riley was interviewed, but he was kind of like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you want to put this out now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like maybe a couple years ago, two, three years ago, four years ago, that kind of fit what you were doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are we putting this out now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like so dated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that interview is well, or maybe Teddy, because in my memory, Teddy did that interview on a radio station here in New York, on a hot 97 or whatever, but it might have been a syndicated interview or a televised interview or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that song was clearly recorded before, you know, many years before I came out, because it sounded dated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I've read some stuff about the making of Blood on the Dance Floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think Mike was really kind of in his right head at the time, and was just like, I'm gonna just put this out to put it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, was maybe the label was like, yeah, I mean, was he,
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[SPEAKER_01]: do on something and he needed to put something out because it didn't feel like there was an organized release right because when when you knew a Michael Jackson album was coming out
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[SPEAKER_01]: there was a lot of marketing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a specific kind of title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like this one word thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was art that would come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was going to be a big video release.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This album like kind of just came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there was a tape with the videos and stuff that came out right around the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they both came out like there was a VHS release of videos such.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, like it's just like so weird that that thing dropped the way that it did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a strange roll out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I already mentioned this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't you feel it is still my favorite Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is number one for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, my number one to shake your body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's the only Jackson song I've ever attempted to do a karaoke, which is not a good idea, because it's really just one verse over and over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't not dance to that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so energetic and fun and I don't know, man, it's just, it's got this energy to it that that's just so uplifting, so positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shake your body here, lovely body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can imagine, you know, there's a part of me that sometimes, which is I was maybe like 10 or 15 years older.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would have had the chance to like, go into dance clubs or discos and like dance to this music when it was just coming out to feel the reaction from people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can just imagine when, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the 1979 or whatever, when people are on a dance form, this song comes on just having them lose their mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Studio 54, would that have been a spot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would have been a spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you always hear crazy stories about Studio 54.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Janet has even done interviews where she was like, yeah, I was 10 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, figure 54, I should not have been there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we got our songs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got our list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have we have nine because we had one similar and then we have some honorable mentions if we want to throw that on the play this or yeah, you know, you know, I, I let Mike be the mixologist here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's played with those Easter eggs in there like whatever he wants on these things because he I know he's going to put them in it in a really good order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that is it for me or so we'll be back at some point you know we're so far we're weekly with our releases so you'll at least have one but 50 for 50 dot net check it out that's where you can find all of our stuff so for Mike i'm double gc when we see you piece out later
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here is the next episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Mike, this is our top five on the albums and so are not, well, we'll talk about the albums in a second, but the songs of the Jackson's I was almost getting ahead of myself because I wanted to sneak this one up on you, but why don't we just do this now, since I flipped the intro here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to rank or I want you to rank the Jackson's albums from worst to best in your mind worst to best yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only six, measure three, four, and you don't have to rank the live album because it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't worry about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Worst to best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So six is going places.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Going going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just not a great record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fifth is probably the self titled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fourth is 2300.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Third is victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Second is triumph and first is destiny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I would flip flop Destiny and Triumph, um, but I would actually have the self titled album third.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you hit me with a, uh, uh, a text that I found very surprising.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I was just an in the moment kind of text because I get when I hear the first Jackson's album, I get into like a feeling of
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[SPEAKER_01]: rediscovery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I would say it because as we we talked about on the 50 for 50 review of the album, my relationship with the Jackson's comes later when I'm actually going out and buying my own CDs and and I'm like, I know that there's this period of Michael Jackson music that I just don't know very well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I want to just dive into it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy yourself is really kind of like the first part of that journey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whenever I hear that song and then I go back and I think about the the video of Michael dancing and doing the robot and all that stuff like it just makes me feel a certain way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have it third and then I would probably go victory and then, you know, I don't know Jack 2300 Jackson Street enough to even like really rank it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whether it's, I'll take your word for it that it's a better than going places because going places is really a tough one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd better than going places.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's do our top five here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are our top five, Jackson's tracks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not talking about Jackson five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not talking about Michael's solo tracks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about tracks exclusively cut as the Jackson's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have some honorable mentions, and I wanted to get your thoughts on one specifically, because there's one song on going places
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I really love, but it's in that really seropy Michael zone that is sometimes hit and sometimes miss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is find me a girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought you're going to say a different song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you were thinking heaven, heaven knows I love you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that I have a little bit of an affinity for that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I think find me a girl is a good song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: to a puppy dog, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael is corny, but you know, he was what 18, 19 years old, it is an appropriate puppy love kind of song, but also he's like, you know, isn't there a part where he's like, and the brother's like, what you're going to do is like, I'm going to make sweet love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, it's a very
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, R&B ballad in sort of like the OJ zone or like, you know, something similar to what Gamble of Hope would do in a time like Teddy Pendergrass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're trying to make him, like kind of a love and man sort of get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another one on my honorable mentions is good times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can distinctly remember where I was the first time I heard that song, and I just moved to Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, summer, late summer, early fall of 1984.
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[SPEAKER_00]: very common to R&B stations at the time after like Madaclocke would hit the quiet storm and it would be just like slow jams and good times came when I was like I've never heard this song before it's clearly Michael Jackson singing when did this song come out and you know come to find out it was on the first Jackson's album but that's that's also a great song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also in my honorable mention,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like walk right now was specifically made because they know that they could really perform an incredible set to that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but they never performed in life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I just see, I think dancing when I hear that song, like just the way that it is, it's just like, oh, this, this is like would have been perfect for a live concert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then my other one is, uh, and I had to leave this off because I didn't want too many songs from Triumph, but, uh, lovely one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really love lovely one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song is weirdly worn off of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I will say, uh, several years ago, uh, someone who is fairly famous and has an Afro and where's a pick, a Afro picking is here, uh, sent me some stems of songs from the Triumph album and lovely one or like demos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And lovely one was one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I still have that in my iTunes library.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Mr. person with the app for one pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That person's got stems, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He talks about stems, sending people stems a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's his and he was also like, if you say any.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, if you tell anybody I own this Randy and LA, you were killed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not,
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[SPEAKER_01]: gigabytes of files this man have on his computer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As many gigabytes as exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the big bites.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever he's doing, he needs to back it up like three times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like seriously, like it has to be multiple times backed up so he doesn't lose it because he is he.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming he has stuff like locked in a safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so let's get into our top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you want to do this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to go from five to one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we trade off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you want to read your list or what do you want to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's, let's do five to one, but I'm actually going to let you start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned my affinity for the first Jackson's album because of my rediscovery of their music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy yourself is one of the happiest songs that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can hear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I just want to be happy, if I just want to be in a good mood, enjoy yourself is probably in the top 10 of all the songs that I know that just make me happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a very happy song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I respect that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number five, we mentioned it actually during the 50 for 50 episode when we were talking about victory for a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One more chance is my number five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think Randy was so in his bag on that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Janet covered it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: actually did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I remember buying the cassette single for if and being completely geeked out that that she had covered that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually know that song probably equally the same from both, but I wonder like I wonder how many people know that more for Janet then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like major play or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think at that time, anyway, I can't speak for now because of the internet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, the people who bought that single were like, oh, she did Randy Song on the Beast Act, because that was, it was never one more chance on the Jackson's album was never single, but it was one of those songs that like, if you were a real one, if you were like a fan like you knew that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A year after victory came out, Phil Collins released a song called One More Night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty much it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One more chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had his headphones on when that victory album came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He certainly did and this is not the same song, but there was a Michael Jack Jackson song called One More Chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's a good song, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is your number five?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my number five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One more chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to write these down because we are going to put a playlist together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Playlist together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my number four is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shake your body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, my favorite version might be the version that they do on the live album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so like they close the show with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they close the shows on the victory tour with it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just such like a, again, you talk about like feel good songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's such a great song and again for those of you who want to go on YouTube and check some of this stuff out type in Jackson's American bandstand or Jackson's soul train.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's American bandstand and they perform shake your body on that show and it's such a fun performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, the brothers all were in like these type baby blue space suits that you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a little weird looking, but it was the 70s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they staged this thing where, like, they invite people in the audience to come dance with them and that a cop comes and breaks it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it turns out the cop is a dancer too and started dancing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very can't be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a fun performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what is next for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number four is the title track to Destiny, interesting thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a very, it's an acoustic ballad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very unlike something that you would associate with Michael Jackson, but things it beautifully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I said in the 50th or 50 episode, some of the songs that Michael sang on those early Jackson's albums are him telling on himself and, you know, I think that song is very telling, you know, just where Michael's head was at as someone who's, you know, a young man in his late teens early 20s trying to figure himself out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the cool thing about one of the cool things about that song, other than just the fact that it's a great song, is like two turns of the way through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes from this sort of acoustic ballad to then this like Prague rock, like Tarsolo, kind of like freak out kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's also like I'm a but y'all gonna be spending a lot of time on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: go to YouTube, type in Jackson's midnight special, and there's a performance, it's actually all six of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wow, performing destiny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're lip syncing, like it's not live, but germane is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he wasn't on the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, so he's just there hanging out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was, I mean, he's performing with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, you know, it's like, we have a very special guest for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a problem with your main.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was their first appearance altogether since your main left the group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, when does your main do stuff with them again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's really only on two songs on victory, torture and weight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he off Motown at that point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He left Motown, joined Cloud Davis at Airsta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the Motown 25 performance was the impetus for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Motown 25 was built as like the reunion of the Jackson's, which
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they were very much still a group at that time, but it was like the reunion of German with the jacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the first time all six brothers were performing together in a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then after that performance, German left Motown and then was able to rejoin his brothers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm going to go blame it on the buggy next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, mine, mine are my top five are really just like jamming like happy songs like like when I think of the Jackson's I think of like these songs that I can just play at like a party and like people are people know exactly what's coming on like I mean if they're a certain age like oh yeah Jackson's I would expect this song to be played you know at this party though that's kind that's kind of what my list is I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, um, fun fact about blaming on the bookie, written by a guy named Michael Jackson, but not Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's, there was also a George town Hoya from the night, the mid-80s playing for playing with Patrick Ewing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His name was Michael Jackson as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, there are a lot of Michael Jackson's out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love, I actually love the the lyrics on this song, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's just, it's just, again, it's one of those I'm just like, and I know that I'm going to have a good time if I played this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually now, I just remembered something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a shot in my boy out, Maurice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maurice is my oldest friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've known each other since we were eight years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maurice and his brothers grew up,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember them saying that they went to like some kind of church meeting, and they were saying that blaming on the book he was demonic, where Michael sings, I can't control my feet, and it's like a kind of demonic possession or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why that just popped into my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Blame it on the good times, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, you know, better than blaming it on the alcohol.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is the next for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my number three is another destiny album track.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's pushed me away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I like that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is, yeah, just again, a beautiful, beautiful valid Michael sings so beautifully here, just like a master interpreter, a great string arrangement courtesy of Claire Fisher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of dreamy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, just again a beautiful, beautiful song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When Mike does a ballad and it's not like a corny ballad, I'm there for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This play so tell is next for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, we talked about it on the 50 for 50 review that we did about why this song is so, so good and
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just Michael and his bag like this is like the best version of Michael, I think at least the Michael that peep that that blew up and that people really really grew to love is like this version of what he's doing on this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it is actually my number two as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a certain type of song that Michael ended up being really good at doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dilly Jean's an example, dirty Diana's an example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Harbrake Hotel was kind of like the first time he was testing that out, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even like a test.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just like killed it on the first try.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just such a, it's, you know, a little goofy, I guess in a retrospect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can feel like there's real danger in the song like a dead, that song should have had a video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he go a little bit too far in the deep end with blood on the dance floor?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, although, look, I'm not going to lie, but on this one was a Bob.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I like that video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just remember, I think when that album came out, like, what a weird release, right, of that when that album came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just remember, I don't know if I read it in a magazine or Teddy Riley was interviewed, but he was kind of like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you want to put this out now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like maybe a couple years ago, two, three years ago, four years ago, that kind of fit what you were doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are we putting this out now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like so dated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that interview is well, or maybe Teddy, because in my memory, Teddy did that interview on a radio station here in New York, on a hot 97 or whatever, but it might have been a syndicated interview or a televised interview or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that song was clearly recorded before, you know, many years before I came out, because it sounded dated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I've read some stuff about the making of Blood on the Dance Floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think Mike was really kind of in his right head at the time, and was just like, I'm gonna just put this out to put it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, was maybe the label was like, yeah, I mean, was he,
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[SPEAKER_01]: do on something and he needed to put something out because it didn't feel like there was an organized release right because when when you knew a Michael Jackson album was coming out
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[SPEAKER_01]: there was a lot of marketing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a specific kind of title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like this one word thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was art that would come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was going to be a big video release.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This album like kind of just came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there was a tape with the videos and stuff that came out right around the same time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they both came out like there was a VHS release of videos such.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, like it's just like so weird that that thing dropped the way that it did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a strange roll out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I already mentioned this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't you feel it is still my favorite Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is number one for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, my number one to shake your body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's the only Jackson song I've ever attempted to do a karaoke, which is not a good idea, because it's really just one verse over and over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't not dance to that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so energetic and fun and I don't know, man, it's just, it's got this energy to it that that's just so uplifting, so positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shake your body here, lovely body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can imagine, you know, there's a part of me that sometimes, which is I was maybe like 10 or 15 years older.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would have had the chance to like, go into dance clubs or discos and like dance to this music when it was just coming out to feel the reaction from people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can just imagine when, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the 1979 or whatever, when people are on a dance form, this song comes on just having them lose their mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Studio 54, would that have been a spot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would have been a spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you always hear crazy stories about Studio 54.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Janet has even done interviews where she was like, yeah, I was 10 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, figure 54, I should not have been there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we got our songs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got our list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have we have nine because we had one similar and then we have some honorable mentions if we want to throw that on the play this or yeah, you know, you know, I, I let Mike be the mixologist here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's played with those Easter eggs in there like whatever he wants on these things because he I know he's going to put them in it in a really good order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that is it for me or so we'll be back at some point you know we're so far we're weekly with our releases so you'll at least have one but 50 for 50 dot net check it out that's where you can find all of our stuff so for Mike i'm double gc when we see you piece out later
