June 17, 2026
Luther Vandross Top 5: Never Too Much, Dance With My Father & More | 50 For 50
Which Luther Vandross songs are the greatest of all time? Mike Joseph and Garrett Gonzales put their lists on the table and defend every pick. Before the rankings, they play a round of Rock With It/Stop With It — putting classic Luther cuts like "Power of Love/Love Power," "Here and Now," and "Superstar" to the test.
Then the real debate begins. Their Top 5 pulls from across his entire catalog — "Never Too Much," "Any Love," "So Amazing," "Take You Out," "Dance With My Father," "The Best Things in Life Are Free," and more. If you have a Luther ranking of your own, you'll want to argue with at least one of these.
A fun, music-deep episode for fans of classic R&B and soul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back with our top five Luther Vandross.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, before we get in the top five, I wanna play a round of rock with it or stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was preparing for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Luther has some songs that I find pretty magical, but I would imagine some people are a little sick of hearing, because they've been overplayed a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if I have these songs on rock with it or stop with it, doesn't mean that I dislike them, I'm assuming that because of how long they've been played that some people may find them a little repetitive or whatever, but sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's start with power of love, love power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I will rock with it, there is a house remix of that song that came out around the same time where he re-sings the song, like it's not like they just do like do do do do over their original song he re-sings the song and that version is I just discovered that version like a year or two ago that version is like top notch so I'm a rock with it, but I'm going to rock with the remix I'm going to stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As I was doing my Luther research, that song came on and I was like, oh man, I haven't heard this in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like, but I heard it a lot back in the day, yeah, in early 90s, I heard it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So not my favorite Luther song, but it is one of his iconic hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, a lot of big hits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song is second biggest pop hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what about the always and forever cover?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who can always, if forever is one of those songs that does not ever need to be remade, like heat wave, got 10 out of 10 first time out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do this on again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's something with his covers where he even makes them slower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, I guess that's accurate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's he's like, no, I'm taking it down even more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That you know, there's a cover of killing me softly on that song's album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It comes out like two years before the Lauren version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Lauren version is the one they remember, but it's nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they did a nice shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know the other cover that he did that was really nice on that that I don't hear anyone ever talk about is what is it, it's the Whitney cover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, all the man that I need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm just like throwing Luther trivia facts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what the show is for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the man I need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whitney's version was a cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's who?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Originally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was originally recorded by sister sledge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been Luther saying background on the original version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, this shit is mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it as back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I take that when he used him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good on you, Luther.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, he actually renamed it all the woman I need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't he?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you didn't like killing me softly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's funny because a couple of years before Luther and then a couple more years before Fuji's I'll be sure made a version of that role.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually it was kind of a hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Roberta Flack or whoever wrote that song made a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Million covers of that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, they're all dope to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, here's one, here's now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a beautiful song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song is magic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a magical song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a beautiful, beautiful song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, what about his cover of a house is not at home?
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's on the list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's table that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and superstar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% that almost made my list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the first version of the song that I heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I didn't know with the car, well, I didn't know who the carpenters were when that song came out because Karen Carpenter just died.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I assume that that's part of the reason Luther
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Marcus Miller, the guy who was in that doc who was worked with Luther, he said that when Luther came to him with the song, he was like, the carpenters, like really, and then when he heard it, he was like, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's uh, that is it that those are those are the ones that I wanted to go over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now let's let's hit the top five, I already teased of mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll start since I tease mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So number five for me is the best things in life are free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not because this is the greatest song in the world or anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is because it is a super power like all star version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Janet, you got Luther, all in the same song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, how can that miss for 16 year old me or whatever, however, what old I was when that song came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got Ralph T for one line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, Ralph T Ralph T, Ralph T as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I mean, it's just so memorable for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just takes me back to a certain time frame that it just makes me smile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I had that, a single back in the days when you bought cassette singles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wore that song out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because I don't really listen to it much now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is very dated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's a fun record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like who the thought back then, like to have Luther and Janet on a record together?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it felt like they came from two different worlds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's also it made it really cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Luther works, Luther does songs with Janet, and he does song, a song with Mariah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many people done that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in a, you know, performed on stage with Whitney.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they ever recorded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Luther produced a song for Whitney.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your baby tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what the name of the song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your five?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My five is any love, which Luther himself said is his favorite song of his.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think when you know his story, yes, and you listen to the lyrics, like it's so
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he says I speak to myself sometimes and I say, wow, you know, in a lot of ways, I'm a lucky guy, um, but I just want to be in love, like I want any love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to be in love with somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so like heart breaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not like pity me like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he acknowledges, right off the bat, I'm a very lucky person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you could definitely tell that he felt this ache, this loneliness, and it definitely comes out in that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: even those of us who have found our person and I'm very lucky in that way, there are moments in your life where you would have felt the same way or you made it, you'll the same way currently and I have definitely had those conversations with myself that Luther had in that cell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I still have those conversations with myself, like, you know, it's, uh, I think it's a very common
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[SPEAKER_00]: feeling to have because I don't, you know, the majority of people haven't found their person or their people or whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like that, you know, when I talked in the episode we did about his sense of longing being like a universal thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a feeling that everybody can relate to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is so relatable and you know, a lot of those
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[SPEAKER_01]: you can put yourself in those lyrics in a particular time and place and be like, damn it, man, you are dealing with the thing that I am feeling about, and you know, maybe maybe that, I'm sure that was a big part of what was so smart about his songwriting, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number four for me, if only four one night, oh, I forgot about that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song is dope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it has that been redone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so who did it before him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The original version is by Brenda Russell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who also wrote the song?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been like babyface covered that song, actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because there's a Luther tribute album that came out, I don't know if it came out before after he died.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's some interesting choices on that album for sure, but Babyface covers it only for one night on that album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had assumed it was a cover, but I didn't do the research to find it, but man, that song, there's like a longing in that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, this dude, this dude had a feeling on this song, and he just went with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really love that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, there aren't a lot of songs in Luther's catalog that really kind of like flag his sexuality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the lyrics of it only for one night, like I won't tell a soul, I'll be discreet, if you need me to and discreet is a word that is used a lot in the community of game by sexual men.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like that was his tell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was really like the first song I heard of his, we're like, I mean, this is long after the fact long after it came out where I heard the lyrics and I was like, oh, yeah, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and it is a, how do I explain this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, a lot of the songs in his discography, they,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are similar in the production style and in the way that he sings them and, you know, very similar and now there are the magic songs like I talked about, but this is a little different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a slightly edgier voice, maybe, you know, a little leaning towards maybe the the center of Luther that we know he's maybe a little bit to the side, so that's what I like about it as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a very like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Luther didn't always sound like he always sounded a romantic he didn't always sound sexy, you know, if only one night it has like a, you know, that's that's a song that you can bone to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's like he's like, Joe to see each other hard out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very right exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what's number four for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number four was so amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a very innocent song, but also just like a very beautiful song about the power of love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in this case, he was Luther covering himself, because he wrote the song for Deon War, where Deon recorded and then Luther took it back and recorded it a couple of years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's also another cover on that same tribute album I mentioned by Beyonce and Stevie Wonder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a very, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's probably my favorite song when that, um, tribute album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just a beautiful record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number three for me, 2,000 and 1's take you out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take you out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fancy in the video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, Garcel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That means.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jay-Z kind of takes it for takes that part of the song for his song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, fancy man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that was people think I watched the Jamie Fox show for Jamie Fox.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Jamie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jamie was number two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Garsell is still, you know, she's still a stunner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but that was, you know, 60 now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song is really about something that is really hard for a lot of people, which is you adore somebody enough that you want to take them out on a date.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's that thing that stops you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever it is, the fear, the fear of no, maybe I'll send you psych yourself out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that whole song is about, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to just go for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Call my shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like even if you turn me down, that is okay because that is better than the regret that I would have if I didn't ask you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But tell you how it is aspirational.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is how, as a human, that is how I looked at dating in a way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I, you know, is it worth it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you psych yourself out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you handle the feedback?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What if it's a no?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's yourself, you knocked yourself in that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I coach yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Luther was just like, I'm just doing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, Luther can do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will, it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just reading the lyrics back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hitting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, he asked if I can take you out tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then he says he'll have you home before it starts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are we doing here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's talking to the, to the dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what's number three?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number three is a glow of love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to put that on mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which you know is change with Luther Vendros on lead vocals, but it is very much a disco song, but it's so joyful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess if you're the next generation, you know, because Janet sampled it for all to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I stood sampled a few other times, but it's such like a
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you want to feel good about life and feel good about the world, that's one of those songs you put on and you know, just puts you in a positive mindset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, there's September.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a very, it works in both ways, because I, when I hear that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear Luther and then I think about the Janet song and then I want to go listen to the Janet song too after it's over so it's like it works in both ways where I'm like I like it and then I want to listen to the other song that's opposite so that shows you how good that that song is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay number two for me is never too much what we just talked about on the whole episode the entire the entire episode was about that album of course with Luther himself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't I think Jada and Will on one thousand kisses here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a poem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just didn't queen pen queen pen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of versions of that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This song is just it's just the gift that keeps on giving and people keep stealing it and using it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I sang it at karaoke once.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and first of all, like, even in New York City, most karaoke bars only have like two or three Luther songs and it's like dance with my father here and now and you know, one other one that I'm not thinking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this place had never too much and I was like, man, I'm drunk enough that I'm a hit this right now and go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No Luther song is easy to sing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Luther is also singing at, like, he's singing a song fast, like, you know, aren't be singer-speeds sing now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think about, like, beyond saying stuff, like that, Luther was speeding him before it got popular.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who could even do this song today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't think of anybody under, like, 40.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, who could do this song?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm going to I'm a catch so much shit for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can hear just in doing a song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is very much over 40?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, feel like the road is on my man a little bit of a.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know, or somebody like like Maxwell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no none of the young cats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't think of anybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two for me is a house is not a home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we talked about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when Luther died that was the first song I played and I played that shit at top volume and probably pissed all my neighbors off but it is You know, it's a remake of a Dionmore work song and
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[SPEAKER_00]: talk about eight talk about loneliness like if you're not here, this chair is not a chair, this room is not a room, this house is not a home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, again, it's just like it's iconic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To use a Gen Z term, it's just an incredible incredible song, an incredible performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, shout out to Bert Bakrack and Hal David, who broke the song for
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[SPEAKER_01]: This man is singing about furniture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he thought to produce, produce that documentary, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he was, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to Fox for... Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: given Luther some shine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And number one, I already said this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dance with my father.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it is, hey, I would say a lot of it has to do with it's the thing I associate with when he passed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then learning about his story doing this, watching the documentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that song is really about his mother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The song is somewhat about himself, but the song is really about his mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that what he really wanted, even though he knew that this was like a too big of an ask was
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[SPEAKER_01]: if his dad could come be present again to that his mom could good dance with him one more time yeah and I was like oh just listening to that I'm just like you know I'm dying inside for for him and he's been gone for so many years just read listening to that song several times in the last week so uh you know it is not the greatest thing that he ever did but if you think about you know we talk about his first
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[SPEAKER_01]: being never too much and then he caps it with dance with my father and it's just like is there a more perfect beginning and end than somebody's career?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't incredibly poetic that that is how it ended.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, beginning in the end of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, as you probably figured out, my number one is never too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think we've talked about that quite a bit, but it would have been mine too, but I kind of knew it was going to be yours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I switched up, but I did really fall back and love with dancing my father.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a good song, you know, when I first heard it, like I definitely felt like the pointy and sea of it, I thought it was a little bit corny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember on the e-pigginance message board back in the day, getting into an argument with somebody where I was like, yeah, I was like, I don't particularly care for that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that person was like, well, when your dad passes away, you know, you'll get the meaning of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, at the time, I mean, this is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 years before I actually met my dad for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I was like, I don't, you know, as someone who's never met his dad, like maybe that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I can't relate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who met her that person was maybe have a little bit of awareness next time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this this was the person who was known for not having a lot of awareness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, in retrospect, it's just like, okay, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man, it is, it does feel kind of like poetic that that was kind of our last.
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[SPEAKER_00]: glimpse of Luther.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've talked about this in some of these other episodes where I didn't know that I was going to be so affected going through these stories again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, some of this is just age and, you know, thinking about our own mortality and thinking about our parents and the insuch or just our elders and people who we are close to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was, uh, yeah, I, I just going through this story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was more sad revisiting it than maybe I even was sad in the real time of it happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is kind of a gift of doing the show is not often do you get to
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[SPEAKER_01]: revisit some things that maybe you didn't really think about as much as as you could have or you would have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Amy White House passing this Luther episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Whitney thing, Whitney was in real time, that was just for me, it was absolutely sad and sad too, but just revisiting these things and thinking about them as older, maybe hopefully more wise adults is a different thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I did
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[SPEAKER_01]: back, getting out of this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is just a positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now my own sadness, like I don't want to get sad, but it is like reflecting and like wow and thinking about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And going over things that I wouldn't have thought about like what I mentioned in the episode of, how Luther's sang these specific songs, having to be in the closet closet own sexuality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, still.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it gives,
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[SPEAKER_00]: knowing that gives the songs a different meaning, yes, like they, you know, they feel different when you consider the person that they were coming from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know revisiting part of the reason why revisit as much of the catalog as possible is because, you know, wherever my life is moving,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we are, I'll just to give people kind of a heads up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to record the brandy episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do a separate brandy top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We all, we will also do something boys to men ish because we don't have an album of boys to men that we're going to dig through to discuss their career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll do a side bar one of that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the a top five episode for me as far as looking forward to it, a tribe called quest is coming next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you talk about revisiting music and putting yourself in the place in time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is like taking me back to high school and like college time frame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I've listened to these albums more than most of the times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having these deep listens with these things all over again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having a great time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a mic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll have more content of yours up soon enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and yeah, check it out, 50 for 50 dot net.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep going with us through the rest of this year and we'll probably be going till 2020.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit into 2020.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we're fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're doing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, technically, year 50 doesn't end until May.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is it from here for Mike.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm WC when we see you piece out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back with our top five Luther Vandross.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, before we get in the top five, I wanna play a round of rock with it or stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was preparing for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Luther has some songs that I find pretty magical, but I would imagine some people are a little sick of hearing, because they've been overplayed a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if I have these songs on rock with it or stop with it, doesn't mean that I dislike them, I'm assuming that because of how long they've been played that some people may find them a little repetitive or whatever, but sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's start with power of love, love power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I will rock with it, there is a house remix of that song that came out around the same time where he re-sings the song, like it's not like they just do like do do do do over their original song he re-sings the song and that version is I just discovered that version like a year or two ago that version is like top notch so I'm a rock with it, but I'm going to rock with the remix I'm going to stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As I was doing my Luther research, that song came on and I was like, oh man, I haven't heard this in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like, but I heard it a lot back in the day, yeah, in early 90s, I heard it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So not my favorite Luther song, but it is one of his iconic hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, a lot of big hits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That song is second biggest pop hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what about the always and forever cover?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, stop with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who can always, if forever is one of those songs that does not ever need to be remade, like heat wave, got 10 out of 10 first time out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do this on again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's something with his covers where he even makes them slower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, I guess that's accurate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's he's like, no, I'm taking it down even more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That you know, there's a cover of killing me softly on that song's album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It comes out like two years before the Lauren version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Lauren version is the one they remember, but it's nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they did a nice shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know the other cover that he did that was really nice on that that I don't hear anyone ever talk about is what is it, it's the Whitney cover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, all the man that I need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm just like throwing Luther trivia facts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what the show is for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the man I need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whitney's version was a cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's who?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Originally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was originally recorded by sister sledge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been Luther saying background on the original version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, this shit is mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it as back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I take that when he used him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good on you, Luther.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, he actually renamed it all the woman I need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't he?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you didn't like killing me softly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's funny because a couple of years before Luther and then a couple more years before Fuji's I'll be sure made a version of that role.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually it was kind of a hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Roberta Flack or whoever wrote that song made a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Million covers of that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, they're all dope to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, here's one, here's now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a beautiful song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song is magic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a magical song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a beautiful, beautiful song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, what about his cover of a house is not at home?
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's on the list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's table that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and superstar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, rock with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% that almost made my list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the first version of the song that I heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I didn't know with the car, well, I didn't know who the carpenters were when that song came out because Karen Carpenter just died.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I assume that that's part of the reason Luther
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Marcus Miller, the guy who was in that doc who was worked with Luther, he said that when Luther came to him with the song, he was like, the carpenters, like really, and then when he heard it, he was like, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's uh, that is it that those are those are the ones that I wanted to go over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now let's let's hit the top five, I already teased of mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll start since I tease mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So number five for me is the best things in life are free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not because this is the greatest song in the world or anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is because it is a super power like all star version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Janet, you got Luther, all in the same song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, how can that miss for 16 year old me or whatever, however, what old I was when that song came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got Ralph T for one line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, Ralph T Ralph T, Ralph T as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I mean, it's just so memorable for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just takes me back to a certain time frame that it just makes me smile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I had that, a single back in the days when you bought cassette singles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wore that song out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because I don't really listen to it much now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is very dated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's a fun record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like who the thought back then, like to have Luther and Janet on a record together?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it felt like they came from two different worlds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's also it made it really cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Luther works, Luther does songs with Janet, and he does song, a song with Mariah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many people done that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in a, you know, performed on stage with Whitney.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they ever recorded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Luther produced a song for Whitney.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your baby tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember what the name of the song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your five?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My five is any love, which Luther himself said is his favorite song of his.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think when you know his story, yes, and you listen to the lyrics, like it's so
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he says I speak to myself sometimes and I say, wow, you know, in a lot of ways, I'm a lucky guy, um, but I just want to be in love, like I want any love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to be in love with somebody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so like heart breaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not like pity me like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he acknowledges, right off the bat, I'm a very lucky person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you could definitely tell that he felt this ache, this loneliness, and it definitely comes out in that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: even those of us who have found our person and I'm very lucky in that way, there are moments in your life where you would have felt the same way or you made it, you'll the same way currently and I have definitely had those conversations with myself that Luther had in that cell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I still have those conversations with myself, like, you know, it's, uh, I think it's a very common
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[SPEAKER_00]: feeling to have because I don't, you know, the majority of people haven't found their person or their people or whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like that, you know, when I talked in the episode we did about his sense of longing being like a universal thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a feeling that everybody can relate to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is so relatable and you know, a lot of those
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[SPEAKER_01]: you can put yourself in those lyrics in a particular time and place and be like, damn it, man, you are dealing with the thing that I am feeling about, and you know, maybe maybe that, I'm sure that was a big part of what was so smart about his songwriting, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number four for me, if only four one night, oh, I forgot about that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song is dope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it has that been redone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so who did it before him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The original version is by Brenda Russell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who also wrote the song?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been like babyface covered that song, actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because there's a Luther tribute album that came out, I don't know if it came out before after he died.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's some interesting choices on that album for sure, but Babyface covers it only for one night on that album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had assumed it was a cover, but I didn't do the research to find it, but man, that song, there's like a longing in that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, this dude, this dude had a feeling on this song, and he just went with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really love that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, there aren't a lot of songs in Luther's catalog that really kind of like flag his sexuality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the lyrics of it only for one night, like I won't tell a soul, I'll be discreet, if you need me to and discreet is a word that is used a lot in the community of game by sexual men.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like that was his tell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was really like the first song I heard of his, we're like, I mean, this is long after the fact long after it came out where I heard the lyrics and I was like, oh, yeah, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and it is a, how do I explain this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, a lot of the songs in his discography, they,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are similar in the production style and in the way that he sings them and, you know, very similar and now there are the magic songs like I talked about, but this is a little different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a slightly edgier voice, maybe, you know, a little leaning towards maybe the the center of Luther that we know he's maybe a little bit to the side, so that's what I like about it as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a very like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Luther didn't always sound like he always sounded a romantic he didn't always sound sexy, you know, if only one night it has like a, you know, that's that's a song that you can bone to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's like he's like, Joe to see each other hard out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very right exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what's number four for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number four was so amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a very innocent song, but also just like a very beautiful song about the power of love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in this case, he was Luther covering himself, because he wrote the song for Deon War, where Deon recorded and then Luther took it back and recorded it a couple of years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's also another cover on that same tribute album I mentioned by Beyonce and Stevie Wonder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a very, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's probably my favorite song when that, um, tribute album.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just a beautiful record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number three for me, 2,000 and 1's take you out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take you out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fancy in the video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, Garcel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That means.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jay-Z kind of takes it for takes that part of the song for his song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, fancy man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that was people think I watched the Jamie Fox show for Jamie Fox.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Jamie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jamie was number two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Garsell is still, you know, she's still a stunner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but that was, you know, 60 now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That song is really about something that is really hard for a lot of people, which is you adore somebody enough that you want to take them out on a date.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's that thing that stops you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever it is, the fear, the fear of no, maybe I'll send you psych yourself out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that whole song is about, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to just go for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Call my shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like even if you turn me down, that is okay because that is better than the regret that I would have if I didn't ask you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But tell you how it is aspirational.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is how, as a human, that is how I looked at dating in a way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I, you know, is it worth it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you psych yourself out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you handle the feedback?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What if it's a no?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's yourself, you knocked yourself in that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I coach yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Luther was just like, I'm just doing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, Luther can do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will, it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just reading the lyrics back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hitting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, he asked if I can take you out tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then he says he'll have you home before it starts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are we doing here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's talking to the, to the dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what's number three?
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[SPEAKER_00]: My number three is a glow of love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to put that on mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which you know is change with Luther Vendros on lead vocals, but it is very much a disco song, but it's so joyful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess if you're the next generation, you know, because Janet sampled it for all to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I stood sampled a few other times, but it's such like a
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you want to feel good about life and feel good about the world, that's one of those songs you put on and you know, just puts you in a positive mindset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, there's September.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a very, it works in both ways, because I, when I hear that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear Luther and then I think about the Janet song and then I want to go listen to the Janet song too after it's over so it's like it works in both ways where I'm like I like it and then I want to listen to the other song that's opposite so that shows you how good that that song is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay number two for me is never too much what we just talked about on the whole episode the entire the entire episode was about that album of course with Luther himself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't I think Jada and Will on one thousand kisses here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: version.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a poem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just didn't queen pen queen pen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of versions of that song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This song is just it's just the gift that keeps on giving and people keep stealing it and using it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I sang it at karaoke once.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and first of all, like, even in New York City, most karaoke bars only have like two or three Luther songs and it's like dance with my father here and now and you know, one other one that I'm not thinking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this place had never too much and I was like, man, I'm drunk enough that I'm a hit this right now and go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No Luther song is easy to sing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Luther is also singing at, like, he's singing a song fast, like, you know, aren't be singer-speeds sing now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think about, like, beyond saying stuff, like that, Luther was speeding him before it got popular.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who could even do this song today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't think of anybody under, like, 40.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, who could do this song?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm going to I'm a catch so much shit for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can hear just in doing a song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is very much over 40?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, feel like the road is on my man a little bit of a.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know, or somebody like like Maxwell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do this song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no none of the young cats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't think of anybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two for me is a house is not a home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we talked about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when Luther died that was the first song I played and I played that shit at top volume and probably pissed all my neighbors off but it is You know, it's a remake of a Dionmore work song and
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[SPEAKER_00]: talk about eight talk about loneliness like if you're not here, this chair is not a chair, this room is not a room, this house is not a home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, again, it's just like it's iconic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To use a Gen Z term, it's just an incredible incredible song, an incredible performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, shout out to Bert Bakrack and Hal David, who broke the song for
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[SPEAKER_01]: This man is singing about furniture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he thought to produce, produce that documentary, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he was, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to Fox for... Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: given Luther some shine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And number one, I already said this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dance with my father.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it is, hey, I would say a lot of it has to do with it's the thing I associate with when he passed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then learning about his story doing this, watching the documentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that song is really about his mother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The song is somewhat about himself, but the song is really about his mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that what he really wanted, even though he knew that this was like a too big of an ask was
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[SPEAKER_01]: if his dad could come be present again to that his mom could good dance with him one more time yeah and I was like oh just listening to that I'm just like you know I'm dying inside for for him and he's been gone for so many years just read listening to that song several times in the last week so uh you know it is not the greatest thing that he ever did but if you think about you know we talk about his first
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[SPEAKER_01]: being never too much and then he caps it with dance with my father and it's just like is there a more perfect beginning and end than somebody's career?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't incredibly poetic that that is how it ended.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, beginning in the end of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, as you probably figured out, my number one is never too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think we've talked about that quite a bit, but it would have been mine too, but I kind of knew it was going to be yours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I switched up, but I did really fall back and love with dancing my father.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a good song, you know, when I first heard it, like I definitely felt like the pointy and sea of it, I thought it was a little bit corny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember on the e-pigginance message board back in the day, getting into an argument with somebody where I was like, yeah, I was like, I don't particularly care for that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that person was like, well, when your dad passes away, you know, you'll get the meaning of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, at the time, I mean, this is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 years before I actually met my dad for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I was like, I don't, you know, as someone who's never met his dad, like maybe that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I can't relate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who met her that person was maybe have a little bit of awareness next time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this this was the person who was known for not having a lot of awareness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, in retrospect, it's just like, okay, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man, it is, it does feel kind of like poetic that that was kind of our last.
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[SPEAKER_00]: glimpse of Luther.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've talked about this in some of these other episodes where I didn't know that I was going to be so affected going through these stories again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, some of this is just age and, you know, thinking about our own mortality and thinking about our parents and the insuch or just our elders and people who we are close to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was, uh, yeah, I, I just going through this story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was more sad revisiting it than maybe I even was sad in the real time of it happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is kind of a gift of doing the show is not often do you get to
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[SPEAKER_01]: revisit some things that maybe you didn't really think about as much as as you could have or you would have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Amy White House passing this Luther episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Whitney thing, Whitney was in real time, that was just for me, it was absolutely sad and sad too, but just revisiting these things and thinking about them as older, maybe hopefully more wise adults is a different thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I did
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[SPEAKER_01]: back, getting out of this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is just a positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now my own sadness, like I don't want to get sad, but it is like reflecting and like wow and thinking about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And going over things that I wouldn't have thought about like what I mentioned in the episode of, how Luther's sang these specific songs, having to be in the closet closet own sexuality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, still.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it gives,
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[SPEAKER_00]: knowing that gives the songs a different meaning, yes, like they, you know, they feel different when you consider the person that they were coming from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know revisiting part of the reason why revisit as much of the catalog as possible is because, you know, wherever my life is moving,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we are, I'll just to give people kind of a heads up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to record the brandy episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do a separate brandy top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We all, we will also do something boys to men ish because we don't have an album of boys to men that we're going to dig through to discuss their career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll do a side bar one of that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the a top five episode for me as far as looking forward to it, a tribe called quest is coming next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you talk about revisiting music and putting yourself in the place in time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is like taking me back to high school and like college time frame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I've listened to these albums more than most of the times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having these deep listens with these things all over again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having a great time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a mic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll have more content of yours up soon enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and yeah, check it out, 50 for 50 dot net.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep going with us through the rest of this year and we'll probably be going till 2020.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit into 2020.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we're fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're doing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, technically, year 50 doesn't end until May.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is it from here for Mike.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm WC when we see you piece out.